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actually3raccoons posted:I completely agree, and this is basically the thing for me. I've been running games for over 25 years, and I've never felt the need, even with my friends and I being dumb idiots goofing around in high school, to have a PC get sexually assaulted, or even have sexual violence remotely "on screen." Every time this comes up I have to wonder what in the unalloyed gently caress is wrong with that GM? I wonder if you could tie some of it to the GM-as-author mentality: stories may and can involve sexual violence (which is not inherently bad, even if it's often mishandled), so GMs-as-authors give themselves permission to use the full arsenal of written fiction. Roleplaying games are such a young medium that in many ways we're still in the process of giving it its own identity, and in the meantime people try to awkwardly treat it as a different medium, like film, TV, or books. You know, when it's not just people using reference to and descriptions of sexual violence as a way to remind women of their vulnerability in society at every waking moment as part of a society-wide culture of making women feel unsafe to enforce a hierarchy and social control.
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All this handwringing about how he can show growth is really funny considering hes 100% gonna never mention this again and find some other idiots to have a tabletop stream with and no one will care in two weeks
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The pants-shitter himself took this opportunity to return to the pbta subreddit and demand evidence of something.
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e: nm Absurd Alhazred fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Apr 6, 2020 13:11
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Lol, fuckwit is still doing the whole "swear on pain of perjury" magic words thing? I'm not surprised he's still being garbage, but I would have figured he'd have changed tacts by now.
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God why does Zak keep trotting out the pain of perjury line? It doesn’t make him have any control of “the narrative” like he thinks it does, it just makes him look stupid
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Apr 6, 2020 14:29
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He thinks it's working because no-one's done it.
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Apr 6, 2020 14:37
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If you helpfully point out that he's being an idiot, the Reddit mods shank you.
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thetoughestbean posted:God why does Zak keep trotting out the pain of perjury line? It doesn’t make him have any control of “the narrative” like he thinks it does, it just makes him look stupid It's a threat, and making threats makes him feel in control and dangerous. He still thinks he has his hit mob backing him up, so he's essentially daring anyone to naysay him as he forces his way back into his old haunts.
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sexpig by night posted:it's like the joke when streamers say The Gamer Word, 'you had a dream setup where you were able to just play games and poo poo with a fan base and everything, and all you had to do was not be a colossal piece of poo poo' There's a bit from The Office where Dwight is assigning people to work weekends, and with great relish picks Jim. Jim comments this is the smallest amount of power he's seen go to someone's head. I think about that line a lot.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:It's not young enough that people haven't thought and written about these issues already. Please guess when this was published: I mean, sure, but it's a long way from someone having ideas about how things work to those ideas being adopted and understood as best practices by the hobby at large.
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Absurd Alhazred fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Apparently 28 years isn't enough. For what it's worth, more games are building these ideas into the book itself. Fiasco, Unknown Armies, Delta Green, and the Yellow King RPG all deal with some potentially very dark material. And they all have disclaimers and cautions in the first chapter (or equivalent) to acknowledge that it can be difficult stuff and to think hard about where your players are coming from. There's still the good faith aspect, of course. Someone who's going to be a gross predator can do it no matter what the system is or what the book says. Sionak fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Apr 6, 2020 |
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Apr 6, 2020 21:04
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https://twitter.com/roll20app/status/1247229035610083329 So he or whoever(wizards, r20, the players), canceled the games they run for the official D&D channel for at least this week.
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Can't confirm the veracity of any of these accusations, but someone who says she dated Koebel for five years posted an account of him being a real piece of poo poo during that time!
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thetoughestbean posted:God why does Zak keep trotting out the pain of perjury line? It doesn’t make him have any control of “the narrative” like he thinks it does, it just makes him look stupid I'm honestly a little impressed this pedant cop managed to convince a bunch of complete rubes that he was actually a progressive libertine for over a decade. What a dipshit.
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Saguaro PI posted:I'm honestly a little impressed this pedant cop managed to convince a bunch of complete rubes that he was actually a progressive libertine for over a decade. What a dipshit. The whole "this person is mentally ill/disabled/etc and thus means they have no credibility" shtick should've burned his credentials long ago. But ableism is common even in progressive circles sadly.
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sexpig by night posted:it's like the joke when streamers say The Gamer Word, 'you had a dream setup where you were able to just play games and poo poo with a fan base and everything, and all you had to do was not be a colossal piece of poo poo' Tbh it seems like saying The Gamer Word just gets you even more money and fans in the world of gaming streams.
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Apr 7, 2020 18:12
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Absurd Alhazred posted:How's he not banned?
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Froghammer posted:At least I can take some small comfort is knowing that we've found the worst possible reaction to all this mess in "Adam turning out to be a garbage person magically un-garbages Zak" This came up during a recent internet discussion when someone tried defending Louis CK, that I feel applies here between Zak's perjury comments and the magical transitive thought process of shitbags: You do not have to be found guilty in a court of law to be an irredeemable shitbag. Usually your actions after the accusation speak louder than whatever magic word spell you try to cast.
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There are tons of people who fall for the good ol' moral relativity argument and Zak leans on that real hard. I mean if (some of) his (imaginary) opponents are flawed, how can any of them critique him????
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Speaking of internet-based elfgame shitbags, it looks like the Zweihander guy (not the shitbag here) is gearing up to issue some sort of legal complaint against Swami Nisarg, aka the RPGPundit (the shitbag here) https://twitter.com/ZweihanderRPG/status/1247023852183576577 https://twitter.com/boymonster/status/1247589399392444418 I have absolutely no idea if anything's going to come of this given the geographical distances involved and/or what, if anything, can be done, but I have to admit I will not find it in me to shed a tear if Daniel Fox somehow manages to make Tarnowski more miserable than he already is.
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I'm not a lawyer, but from what little I know the core case seems like it would be a waste of time for a lawyer unless they're grifting Fox, and that public statement would be strongly discouraged. My biggest take-away is that I'm just sort of baffled Pundit would give so much of a poo poo about Fox of all people. But then he's never really made sense as a person anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of more likely targets of his bile that just haven't taken the time to try to get him to stop in so public a way. Hopefully I'm incredibly wrong and Fox has the opportunity and evidence to bury him.
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That Old Tree posted:I'm not a lawyer, but from what little I know the core case seems like it would be a waste of time for a lawyer unless they're grifting Fox, and that public statement would be strongly discouraged. Yeah I'm not really expecting anything to come of it, but hell it's 2020, anything goes at this point.
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That Old Tree posted:I'm not a lawyer, but from what little I know the core case seems like it would be a waste of time for a lawyer unless they're grifting Fox, and that public statement would be strongly discouraged. FWIW I know the lawyer he says he’s retained and he’s not likely to be grifting the dude. It’d be a hard case in the US but not an impossible one. But, since RPGPundit is a Canadian citizen there’s some possibility of filing a defamation claim there and Canadian defamation law is significantly more hostile to speech than US defamation law, which makes it at least somewhat more plausible.
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Kalman posted:FWIW I know the lawyer he says he’s retained and he’s not likely to be grifting the dude. It’d be a hard case in the US but not an impossible one. Yeah, that's the whole reason well-known industry pariah Zak S filed his suit against Mandy in Canada. Commonwealth defamation law is outright abusive.
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That Old Tree posted:My biggest take-away is that I'm just sort of baffled Pundit would give so much of a poo poo about Fox of all people. But then he's never really made sense as a person anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of more likely targets of his bile that just haven't taken the time to try to get him to stop in so public a way. 1) Pundowski pretty much lives and dies by his long-standing grudges against people. Most of them are imaginary, since hardly anyone could ever really give a poo poo about him, but he's built up a forum filled with people like him. This leads to 2) He's incredibly small-time, and most of the players in the industry worth a drat don't bother giving him the time of day with what I assume to be the belief that he'll go away if you ignore him long enough. As we can see by his immense hate-boner for Ron Edwards though, the dude just never stops. He doesn't have the army of sycophants that Zak used to have, so he's stuck doing it by himself in increasingly more brazen and awful means as he becomes more and more irrelevant. When you look at it from the point of view of someone wanting attention, any attention, Pundit's actions make more sense. He's a fake swami and a poor RPG writer pathetically aping the styling of Hunter S. Thompson, a man who would've probably greatly disliked him. This is all he's got going for him.
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That Old Tree posted:My biggest take-away is that I'm just sort of baffled Pundit would give so much of a poo poo about Fox of all people. But then he's never really made sense as a person anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of more likely targets of his bile that just haven't taken the time to try to get him to stop in so public a way. Fox responds to Pundit's bait, I'd imagine that's a big part of the reason. Most targets of Tarnowski's petty ire have banned him and learned not to engage. Even here, Pundit's antics usually generate a page or two of commentary and then everyone stops caring. He's just not important enough to get more worked up about. Fox posting this stuff makes Pundit look important, in that sort of shallow and petty way that most internet drama play out.
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I've always figured part of the reason Tarnowski is so brazen is he thinks living in Uruguay means nothing can touch him.
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https://twitter.com/Ettin64/status/1248038942777065472?s=20 Well this sucks
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pretty sure it's legally required because of Zak's lawsuit in canada, where the burden of proof for libel is so goddamn low.
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That does indeed look like the sort of thing one might be forced to post according to the conditions of a settlement after being sued for defamation in a Commonwealth country.
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Is Ettin Canadian? E: Right, Commonwealth. This sucks, immensely.
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Apparently Australia is worse on defamation than Canada: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/nov/24/australias-unworkable-defamation-laws-what-the-governments-changes-could-mean
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