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Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
The oil Bible of Dalton, Georgia has been exposed as a hoax...but what if it wasn't? What if the oil wasn't purchased from a store called Tractor Supply, but was really the extra-dimensional secretions of Yog-Sothoth? :thunk:

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Sionak
Dec 20, 2005

Mind flay the gap.

Badactura posted:


Edit: Any thoughts for weird senses for a user to get?

Another fun angle (that I haven't seen used too much) for mythos related senses and perceptions is to work in synesthesia - where the input from one sense is interpreted through another sense as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia

Maybe it starts out fairly small - getting a sense of taste or texture from colors, for instance. Then it gradually progresses to being able to "smell" potential sales targets (as mentioned by others, above) or people who are suffering from chronic diseases or pain.

That kind of homing sense would be extremely creepy or unsettling if turned on player characters (or their bonds).

I also like the idea of snake-like senses - sharpened smell or picking up on vibrations. Peeling skin could be another tell for those who have been taking a lot of the substance.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Speaking of mythos-corrupted perceptions, if you guys haven't watched The Color Out of Space yet, it's got some great Manic Cage and cronenberg-esque practical body horror effects.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Owlbear Camus posted:

Speaking of mythos-corrupted perceptions, if you guys haven't watched The Color Out of Space yet, it's got some great Manic Cage and cronenberg-esque practical body horror effects.

It's so good

Badactura
Feb 14, 2019

My wish lives in the future.
Thanks for a smorgasbord of great ideas, thread. I am running the game sunday and I'll let people know what I ended up with and how it went. Ive been on a Delta Green kick for a moment so I will probably be back to ask more advice.

Also Color Out of Space was fuckin terrific, even when Nic Cage does his best Donald Trump impersonation.

Midig
Apr 6, 2016

Semi-rant from sessions I had. This is sort of a "Am I the rear end in a top hat" kind of post so if you hate that just skip. But I am playing Masks of Nyarlathotep which is a long running campaign for those unaware of it LOW KEY SPOILERS AHEAD. I am an archeologist and because another guy had archeologist (didn't have facebook for some reason and he wasn't notified) I chose sidekick and altered my character so I could excel at some stuff he did not to round it out a bit more and I would roleplay as his assistant.

We run through a prologue part where I get the chance to throw a torch into a flammable area, possibly killing the entity or at least weakening them, but also maybe turning us all insane. It was supposed to be solved as a puzzle by sealing it in. So I was simply denied from throwing it in. From the perspective of my character, I had seen something horrible and being the only one who had actually read from the mythos, I had a more profound understanding of its evils. So for me that was a character moment where I decided my archeologist might think not everything is worth sharing with the world. But again since it is so dangerous for the party, I wasn't that mad about not being allowed to do that. In fact I think even if I really despise eldritch creatures, that is slightly murder hobo ish.

So I thought ok, this book I have has one spell that is basically useless now that the prologue is over and I never got to use it. So at the cost of some mythos points for the team, I can still get my character moment. As I had mostly not done anything but miss stuff as I am shooting. I wasn't allowed to do this either. Apparently I didn't own it either despite being the only one who had even understood its contents. Wasnt allowed. That is meta gaming, but I could at least understand that from their view I was the only one with Cthulhu mythos knowledge and I was about to deny it from them, even if they got decreased sanity. So because of protests, I agreed to not do that either.

So I miss a session (honestly felt really bad since I got a bad hangover and straight-up forgot about the session until it was too late), then come back for the next. I mostly get to do a whole lot of nothing. Another character, while encouraged by the group, was allowed to go alone and deal with an NPC to arrange something for the party. So I thought I would do the same. The thing they were going to was in the afternoon, it was break of dawn. Break of dawn and afternoon are two different times of the day according to my knowledge. So when I was denied saying they were going to that thing, I thought I had mixed up the names or something. Because I was going to speak to an NPC early to gather some information and even dirt on some NPCs for that party later. But was denied by the party, stating we should do things as a group, even though one of them was allowed solo play just fifteen minutes before. Most of the time I am encouraging other characters to have their moments or helping them out. But every time I try to do something I just get shut down. I am really not trying to be a problem player, I don't try to hog the spotlight all the time or anything like that. I just though my character might have some agency even if it is not the 100 percent optimal move since you know it is CoC and people turn insane and die all the time anyways.

Midig fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Mar 3, 2020

SageNytell
Sep 28, 2008

<REDACT> THIS!
Where are you at in Masks?

The prologue of Masks is set in New York City at The Bad Death of Jackson Elias, and there aren't any situations like the one you described in that chapter.

It's a little difficult to follow what you are saying. You weren't allowed to do these things, or did you fail dice rolls? Did the GM or the players try to tell you not to do something?

Midig
Apr 6, 2016

Maybe some other form of intro from some other edition. But we were in Peru and we met JE there. Right now we are in NY. I saw promptly shut down. It annoyed me a lot so I decided to just talk to the GM since if we found no solution I should just quit anyway. So I make a new character and I roleplay my intensions with an action through dialogue instead of seemingly spontaneously going off to do something.

Midig fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Mar 3, 2020

Veritek83
Jul 7, 2008

The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.

SageNytell posted:

Where are you at in Masks?

The prologue of Masks is set in New York City at The Bad Death of Jackson Elias, and there aren't any situations like the one you described in that chapter.

It's a little difficult to follow what you are saying. You weren't allowed to do these things, or did you fail dice rolls? Did the GM or the players try to tell you not to do something?

The new edition opens with a prologue several years earlier in Peru, introducing the investigators to JE before moving to NYC in '25 or '26.

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


Talk to your GM, make sure you're both clear on the social contract. Either it's just them being busy running not noticing they're shutting you down and they'll go "oh poo poo you're right im sorry let's get you into something cool next sesh" or you'll find out they're actually an rear end in a top hat and you can stop playing with them. Or I guess you'll find out you're the rear end in a top hat :)

Cannibal Smiley
Feb 20, 2013
This stuff on mass-marketing some kind of horrible substance to an unwitting public is reminding me very strongly of "The Stuff".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stuff

Midig
Apr 6, 2016

Well. As a guy who is usually forced to be GM, I find it hard to call someone who is willingly GMing an rear end in a top hat, even if I disagree with how the game is run. I try to take it up with them instead of becoming disruptive. It was rather the other players which annoyed me a bit.

We were asked by the GM to not have inner monologues for all the stuff we planned, and I took that a bit too literally and made my actions seem highly impulsive, instead of finding in character ways to explain my plans and create interactions with the other PCs. I still think he should sometimes just allow us to make a bit more mistakes, but I don't have to bring up every grudge at once. I am letting my character die or retire and picking up a doctor with some psychoanalysis. I think having my niche to the party will help me enjoy it more. Any general advice for a doctor is nice. We got people with decent fighting skills, persuasion, vehicle management, and archeology.

Midig fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Mar 5, 2020

Midig
Apr 6, 2016

Ok. Since that was pretty tame. I wondered if people here have tried solo adventures for CoC? I see the adventures "Alone against frost/fire/shadow" linked here on Chaosium:

https://www.chaosium.com/solo-call-of-cthulhu/

On the surface, it might sound inherently worse since there are no peeps to play with and you are solely responsible for the atmosphere, delivery and rules etc. But I thought it might be a nice way to get some inspiration as a DM. That is assuming it is not just for complete beginners who don't know the rules.

Midig fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Mar 5, 2020

ritorix
Jul 22, 2007

Vancian Roulette

Midig posted:

Ok. Since that was pretty tame. I wondered if people here have tried solo adventures for CoC? I see the adventures "Alone against frost/fire/shadow" linked here on Chaosium:

https://www.chaosium.com/solo-call-of-cthulhu/

On the surface, it might sound inherently worse since there are no peeps to play against and you are solely responsible for the atmosphere, delivery and rules etc. But I thought it might be a nice way to get some inspiration as a DM. That is assuming it is not just for complete beginners who don't know the rules.

Alone against the flames is free under the digital pdf section. Good stuff. It's rules light and goes with the quick starter rules. Definitely atmospheric and I would point a new player there.

I picked up a copy of alone against the dark, haven't played it yet but it's way longer and seems more involved. The entries have multiple rolls leading to different sections, it has 594 branches and separate puzzles and stuff.

Badactura
Feb 14, 2019

My wish lives in the future.
So I ran the game on the stuff last Sunday, and it went pretty well.The background that will come up in future scenarios pursuing the antagonists is that an OUTLOOK Group scientist started a laboratory in Central America looking to replicate the inert substances from the Cookbook. They don't have a lot of luck, but attract a mythos-aligned investment group that connects them with a cabal of serpentfolk hiding under the guise of an international art and artifacts merchant company. The serpentfolk provide samples of various serpentfolk serums from which the group produces the Grind. Further study reveals the modified serum eventually causes the growth of an internal organ that naturally produces the active chemical in grind internally, rendering the product unprofitable. It also mutates the person into a terrifying snakeperson hybrid. Since it can't make money, they sell off their product and recipe, and their test subject that has a Grind-producing organ, to a shady chemistry lab in the United States for cheap. They subsequently sell the product to right wing grifters in Florida.

I only had two PCs, because several others flaked, including the one playing the epidemiologist, which made the scenario more of a standard investigation.
One PC is a technical specialist for the FBI, the other an FBI Hostage Rescue goon.

I had planned out a timeline of events that accelerated the spread of Grind across the United States, with a series of clues that eventually led from the scene of a pentuple murder in Fresno (the original incident that brought Delta Green in, due to the hypergeometric chemistry of the perpetrator) to a chemistry lab in Mobile, Alabama where they found the horrible genetic hybrid that produced the chemical in it's bloodstream. Some fun moments were had, such as breaking and entering into a front company and punching out a security guard on the way out, the team complaining about the constant air travel in-character, and the 'oh poo poo' moment when they found out that there were around 12,000 Grind users across the country.

Eventually they were able to find the lab, and infiltrated it with guns and a firebomb the night before Grind was going to be featured on Infowars. They murdered the despondent, drunk head chemist of the lab when she tried to stop them from killing the 'sample,' a poor Honduran man who was the Grind-producing test subject. The murder caused one PC to have a change of heart and release the hybrid, but the other PC went gun-crazy and murdered him immediately after he was let out. This caused a rift among the PCs, which came out later during their escape from the lab, when they were intercepted fleeing by local police. the Hostage Rescue goon killed one cop before being shot in the head by another, and the specialist fled into the wetlands of the gulf coast, pursued by police. A miracle series of rolls later, she was picked up by friendly and escaped the manhunt.

The only other notable event was that this has been the second session in a row where a badass operator has shown up, killed a ton of people, then died in a firefight right at the end of the game.

neaden
Nov 4, 2012

A changer of ways

Midig posted:

Ok. Since that was pretty tame. I wondered if people here have tried solo adventures for CoC? I see the adventures "Alone against frost/fire/shadow" linked here on Chaosium:

https://www.chaosium.com/solo-call-of-cthulhu/

On the surface, it might sound inherently worse since there are no peeps to play with and you are solely responsible for the atmosphere, delivery and rules etc. But I thought it might be a nice way to get some inspiration as a DM. That is assuming it is not just for complete beginners who don't know the rules.
There is a Cthulhu Chronicles app for iOS and Android that has alone against the flames and some other games if you are interested. It idea a simplified version of CoC.

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011
Curious. Some goon released a LOT of free Delta Green adventures, either fully fleshed out or as one page sheets. Does anyone still have the link to them?

NutritiousSnack fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Mar 9, 2020

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


NutritiousSnack posted:

Curious. Some goon released a LOT of free Delta Green adventures, either fully fleshed out or as one page sheets. Does anyone still have the link to them?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15CIOxfWU2WokHd3R4GG_bNP3oXuFDL-94JHwNScTsys/edit

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

Thank you!!!

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009
Call of Cthulhu Coloring Book! Free! And a contest as well!



https://www.chaosium.com/blogstaying-in-color-in-at-home-with-chaosium-weve-made-call-of-cthulhu-the-coloring-book-a-free-download/

quote:

Dear members of the Chaosium tribe,

Many of you - like us - may be staying put at home over the coming weeks. We're all in this together, and to help keep spirits up and minds occupied, the Chaosium team is working on some fun and engaging diversions we can enjoy while staying in, working-from-home, in quarantine, or in self-isolation.

To start things off at #homewithchaosium, we've made the Gold ENnie award-winning Call of Cthulhu the Coloring Book available as a free download.

While away the hours in lockdown coloring an amazing array of scenes, with striking images from H.P. Lovecraft’s stories­—and the Call of Cthulhu RPG his imagination inspired (Horror on the Orient Express, Masks of Nyarlathotep, The Fungi from Yuggoth and more).

Wishing everyone all the best until the Stars are Right again.
— your friends at Chaosium

What's more, we're going to run a Call of Cthuhu Coloring Competition!

There are 28 eldritch scenes of Lovecraftian horror in Call of Cthulhu the Coloring Book. Colour in any of these pictures and share your work on social media with the hashtag #homewithchaosium.

Use Photoshop or a paint program on your computer, or print off your picture of choice and color it in with pencils, pens, Star Vampire blood, ichor, etc, we don't mind.

We'll share your works on our channels and BRP Central for everyone's delectation. We'll also pick out some winners! Winners will receive a Chaosium Redbubble Art Board of their own coloring-in masterpiece.

Download Call of Cthulhu the Coloring Book for free here.

BTW - if you'd like the printed version it's available here for USD$9.95 (includes PDF).

Midig
Apr 6, 2016

Yo! Overall opinion of alone against the flames is that it is a decent tale, especially at getting newbs to learn the system, but it has some serious flaws:

-A generic plotline and twist instead of unique to Cthulhu plot
-Few of the decisions lead to unique twists. A lot of the time you are supposed to do 4/5 or 4/4 of some options and then move on.

That being said, it is a lot better than most "play your adventure" books since it doesn't have dead end scenarios that lead to automatic with no escape. I was kinda enjoying it with Amnesia soundtrack in the back while playing. I have wanted to try Alone against the dark, but based on reviews, it seems to have some spots where you are insta killed if you pick it and have to start over again. Not really a fan of that. Has anyone tried alone against the deep or frost and can recommend any of them?

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
There's a version of Alone Against the Flames in Cthulhu Chronicles for mobile devices. Simplified mechanically but still pretty good.

Waterfall Watcher
Dec 17, 2018

How to ruin improve game sessions & family ties with one simple question.

-Would this be better if I used poison?
So I was thinking of getting back into Dming and I saw Reign of terror on fantasy ground. That campaign being a prequel to one of my favourite Coc campaigns Orient Express I was thinking of getting a hardback copy for quick referencing. Should I get it from chaosium for about 50 bucks including taxes and shipping but with a pdf or should I get it from amazon for 35 bucks?

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


Waterfall Watcher posted:

So I was thinking of getting back into Dming and I saw Reign of terror on fantasy ground. That campaign being a prequel to one of my favourite Coc campaigns Orient Express I was thinking of getting a hardback copy for quick referencing. Should I get it from chaosium for about 50 bucks including taxes and shipping but with a pdf or should I get it from amazon for 35 bucks?

At this point, I'd say get it straight from Chaosium to help support them during the virus.

numtini
Feb 7, 2010
Particularly running things online, I find the PDFs infinitely useful. Take a snip for handouts or maps or whatever.

Sionak
Dec 20, 2005

Mind flay the gap.

numtini posted:

Particularly running things online, I find the PDFs infinitely useful. Take a snip for handouts or maps or whatever.

Yeah.. I like physical books for reading through and for my shelf, but when running online, pdfs are great. Especially with two monitors, they're really invaluable. I generally find it worth paying the publisher price for the book + pdf as compared to the Amazon price for the book only.

Also, Reign of Terror is pretty interesting. Role Playing Public Radio did a really funny playthrough, but the Horror on the Orient Express tie in is pretty neat, too.
http://actualplay.roleplayingpublicradio.com/2018/04/genre/horror/call-of-cthulhu-7e-reign-of-terror-part-1/

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


r/NightAtTheOpera's 3rd summer contest is open. This year we're focused on NPCs. Check it out if you're interested, and submit if you come up with anything cool.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16rGgkUiYHaexH7bOw0wElU8t7KbGrAMJlVeUyUS0_oo/edit?usp=sharing

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




So I somehow stumbled on the news that Masks of Nyarlathotep was given an update a few years ago, and as always when I remember that Masks exists... I want to start a new campaign of it.

How different is 7e CoC and the updated Masks from their OG counterparts? I read a few cursory reviews of them and it sounds like not much has changed.. if I were to start a 7e MoN campaign with seasoned ttRPGers, some with oldschool CoC experience, we'd be fine, correct?

Also, how is Roll20? It looks pretty dope from a quick glance at it?

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


Roll 20 is hot garbage but it's all that's really out there. It is a fight to get stuff working but in terms of just rolling stuff and displaying stuff it's fine.

It's the Skype of virtual tables.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
I only ready the New York chapter, in case I end up playing it before I run it. A lot of things are fleshed out, there are a lot more details and strings to pull on in New York and there's a new prologue chapter in Peru that introduces the group to jackson elias. I imagine a bunch of stuff from that masks companion book is integrated but I haven't investigated too closely.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Elendil004 posted:

Roll 20 is hot garbage but it's all that's really out there. It is a fight to get stuff working but in terms of just rolling stuff and displaying stuff it's fine.

It's the Skype of virtual tables.

Hmm so if I were to use it, another die rolling website/app/physical dice would be better? Maybe TT Simulator on Steam is better...

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

I only ready the New York chapter, in case I end up playing it before I run it. A lot of things are fleshed out, there are a lot more details and strings to pull on in New York and there's a new prologue chapter in Peru that introduces the group to jackson elias. I imagine a bunch of stuff from that masks companion book is integrated but I haven't investigated too closely.

Good to know! When I ran it back in the day my group got to Asia, but that was also maybe... 12-13 years ago, haha! Chaosium offering the .pdfs of it is both a bane and a boon: I want to purchase it just so I can read through it!

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


Johnny Truant posted:

Hmm so if I were to use it, another die rolling website/app/physical dice would be better? Maybe TT Simulator on Steam is better...


Oh don't get me wrong, it's best that's out there, it's just still poo poo. I almost exclusively use discord for voice and roll20 for rolls and handouts and spatial things. Roll20s voice is real bad.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Elendil004 posted:

Oh don't get me wrong, it's best that's out there, it's just still poo poo. I almost exclusively use discord for voice and roll20 for rolls and handouts and spatial things. Roll20s voice is real bad.

Oh yeah I'm already planning on Discord for voice. Is it just a clunky platform? It has like, a CoC module that you can purchase which does... stuff? I haven't watched any of their crash course in creating/playing so I am pretty ignorant.

Scruff McGruff
Feb 13, 2007

Jesus, kid, you're almost a detective. All you need now is a gun, a gut, and three ex-wives.

Johnny Truant posted:

Oh yeah I'm already planning on Discord for voice. Is it just a clunky platform? It has like, a CoC module that you can purchase which does... stuff? I haven't watched any of their crash course in creating/playing so I am pretty ignorant.

It's handy if you want to use and are willing to put in the time to create maps (Dungeon Painter Studio is pretty good for creating Roll20 compatible maps) or if you have players who have suspiciously good rolls when left to their own devices but yeah, it's fairly clunky. My group tried it a while back and just ended up just using Discord with each person rolling their own dice. But I know people who swear by it for their games so YMMV. I think you can even get dice bots for Discord now, and when necessary our DM has just opened maps directly in Dungeon Painter and just shared his desktop and just threw down markers on that, so even there you have options.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



The dynamic lighting is in theory pretty cool, but a) takes a long time to setup and b) consumes a murderous amount of cpu.

Veritek83
Jul 7, 2008

The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.
I've run the prologue, NY and England chapters from new Masks- all in all I think it's just straight up improvement over the original. Lots of stuff added from the Companion and additional stuff that could easily be used to spin out side campaigns. I guess if you really don't like any of the changes made in 7e CoC, you might not like new Masks, but otherwise if you're on board with Masks already, this is the version you should be playing/running.

Happy to answer any specific questions you might have as well.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Veritek83 posted:

I've run the prologue, NY and England chapters from new Masks- all in all I think it's just straight up improvement over the original. Lots of stuff added from the Companion and additional stuff that could easily be used to spin out side campaigns. I guess if you really don't like any of the changes made in 7e CoC, you might not like new Masks, but otherwise if you're on board with Masks already, this is the version you should be playing/running.

Happy to answer any specific questions you might have as well.

Yeah I bought it last night and have read it for about 5 hours so far - it looks fantastic! I just sent out the preliminary materials for my homies to create their investigators, I'm planning on going all out this time. Gonna do background music, photographs, accents, have my partner record dialogue in Spanish, ahhh I'm so pumped.

I can't wait for the physical copies to arrive so I can compare them to my OG version of Masks. I have a nightmare memory about my investigators getting to (NY spoilers) the Ju-Ju House and one getting killed, another going insane from the mask, then the situation resolves and they're like "so..." while I'm scrambling to connect the dots and put poo poo into a sad attempt at coherence.

Veritek83
Jul 7, 2008

The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.

Johnny Truant posted:

I can't wait for the physical copies to arrive so I can compare them to my OG version of Masks. I have a nightmare memory about my investigators getting to (NY spoilers) the Ju-Ju House and one getting killed, another going insane from the mask, then the situation resolves and they're like "so..." while I'm scrambling to connect the dots and put poo poo into a sad attempt at coherence.

While it's not quite the meat-grinder it was, it's definitely still Call of Cthulhu, so that can happen and not just in NYC. My regular RPG group's campaign derailed when they went to break up the cult rituals in the English countryside and decided to try to shoot their way out of the 50+ cultists gathered at the mansion. One of them ended up executing the belly-dancer they were trying to rescue in order to prevent her from being re-captured. Another got eaten directly out of a speeding car by a hunting horror. It was great, though we ran out of steam at that point and it's going to take some work to talk them into picking up the campaign again. Then again not everyone was super on-board for CoC in the first place, so maybe I should just try it with a different group.

ElectricWizard
Oct 21, 2008
I hope this is the right thread for discussing the FF board games.
I’ve been enjoying Mansions of Madness during the pandemic, and I’m considering getting an expansion.

Any advice or consensus about which expansion is worth getting first?
Are any of the dlc scenarios worth getting?

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Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Veritek83 posted:

While it's not quite the meat-grinder it was, it's definitely still Call of Cthulhu, so that can happen and not just in NYC. My regular RPG group's campaign derailed when they went to break up the cult rituals in the English countryside and decided to try to shoot their way out of the 50+ cultists gathered at the mansion. One of them ended up executing the belly-dancer they were trying to rescue in order to prevent her from being re-captured. Another got eaten directly out of a speeding car by a hunting horror. It was great, though we ran out of steam at that point and it's going to take some work to talk them into picking up the campaign again. Then again not everyone was super on-board for CoC in the first place, so maybe I should just try it with a different group.

Yeah I like that they now have a Pulpy version of the game. I'm going to offer my group the option before each sitting to choose Pulpy or non, to vary it a bit.

That car story is loving metal, hahaha!

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