April Current Events: "I just dont trust anything the white house says"

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Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Dad screaming at the tv that trump saved that democratic lawmaker lmao. Good lord

# ? Apr 7, 2020 04:50

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lightpole: Jun 4, 2004; I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

Acebuckeye13 posted:

These motherfuckers probably feel safe because even though the correct answer to this sham of an election is massive protests and an occupation of the state capitol building (again) and honestly? this is the point where a full-blown riot is absolutely an acceptable response, people can't precisely for the same reasons they can't get out and vote: the goddamn pandemic. And by the time it's died down to the point where people can gather in large enough numbers, temperatures will have also cooled down to the point where it'll be hard to get enough numbers and energy for an appropriate response.

loving bastards. Traitors to their state, their nation, and the people they represent.

Just make sure to read the last part of that thread so your anger is directed at the right people (the legislature/judiciary) and not Wolfe and the WI election people.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 04:52

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Omg sean hannity on his show explaining how hydrochloroquine works. I can't loving even.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 04:57

Flying_Crab: Apr 12, 2002

Handsome Ralph posted:

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1247301011947085825

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1247302760242036738

I'm one of these people who didn't get a ballot. This is so incredibly hosed, this single act has shaken my faith in this country more than any other event in recent history. The notion of this nation being a true democracy at all is now in question.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 05:14

Old Boot: May 9, 2012; Buglord

This would be why stacking the courts was a huge deal for me in the primary. It's not just reproductive rights and the myriad other poo poo the courts control, its poo poo like this that I've been watching take shape in my own backyard for the past decade.

The courts matter. This is why.

Past that, I'm legitimately at a loss for words. This situation is so profoundly hosed.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 05:23

Cugel the Clever: Apr 5, 2009; I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Write and call your local reps now and demand immediate action to adopt mail-in ballots for November. There's a real likelihood that this will still be around in the fall (or have come back) and the GOP will at least make no effort to make in-person voting safe. Or they could decide suddenly to pretend they haven't downplayed of the problem all year and announce restrictions on polling places that effectively disenfranchise broad swathes of the Democratic electorate.

That should sound crazy, but not entirely outside the realm of possibility to anyone who's been keeping up with things. Demand mail-in ballots now to reduce their opportunity to either passively or actively undermine American democracy.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 05:25

Old Boot: May 9, 2012; Buglord

No, it's not crazy. Wisconsin is absolutely the canary in the coal mine, and I hope people are listening more than Twitter/etc seems to indicate.

A non-trivial number of people seem a lot more interested in bashing on Evers when there was gently caress nothing he could do. The executive order was a hail mary, always was, and the GOP was literally standing there counting on people wanting to save lives as a way to jam ther foot in the door.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 05:30

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Disregard both courts, postpone whatever or run an election so blatantly farcical that the courts order a do over

# ? Apr 7, 2020 05:44

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Proud Christian Mom posted:

Disregard both courts, postpone whatever or run an election so blatantly farcical that the courts order a do over

I mean, they're openly doing the second option already.

Old Boot posted:

This would be why stacking the courts was a huge deal for me in the primary. It's not just reproductive rights and the myriad other poo poo the courts control, its poo poo like this that I've been watching take shape in my own backyard for the past decade.

The courts matter. This is why.

Past that, I'm legitimately at a loss for words. This situation is so profoundly hosed.

Nah, it's fine. Just write in Mickey Mouse so we can ensure Trump gets another two seats on the court.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 05:50

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Biden wants to compromise with McConnell on justices so I�m not actually seeing a good option in November.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 05:52

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

Don't you just love the feeling of being trapped in the way back seats of a passenger van while a crazy person tries to steer it off a cliff?

# ? Apr 7, 2020 05:53

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Godholio posted:

Nah, it's fine. Just vote for Joe Biden so we can ensure Trump gets another two seats on the court.

Here fixed this for you

hobbesmaster posted:

Biden wants to compromise with McConnell on justices so I’m not actually seeing a good option in November.

Well yeah Joe's ok with all this

# ? Apr 7, 2020 05:56

iwentdoodie: Apr 29, 2005; 🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

Old Boot posted:

No, it's not crazy. Wisconsin is absolutely the canary in the coal mine, and I hope people are listening more than Twitter/etc seems to indicate.

They're not. Otherwise Biden wouldn't be the nominee.

Hope that helps. Welcome to hell world, enjoy the last few months we have before rona kills us because as a collective we deserve it.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 05:56

Old Boot: May 9, 2012; Buglord

iwentdoodie posted:

They're not. Otherwise Biden wouldn't be the nominee.

Hope that helps. Welcome to hell world, enjoy the last few months we have before rona kills us because as a collective we deserve it.

Bernie doesn't want to stack the courts either, friend. The people who did long ago dropped out of the race.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 06:01

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

The fact that dipshit won in the first place is proof positive that this country was probably beyond saving. I don't see anything but bad poo poo in the future and you can forget about fleeing somewhere civilized given recent rightward trends.

Don't have kids.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 06:16

Cugel the Clever: Apr 5, 2009; I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Milo and POTUS posted:

The fact that dipshit won in the first place is proof positive that this country was probably beyond saving. I don't see anything but bad poo poo in the future and you can forget about fleeing somewhere civilized given recent rightward trends.

Don't have kids.

Alternately: have a boatload of kids, raise them right, and push for a better future :shrug:

# ? Apr 7, 2020 06:29

Kawasaki Nun: Jul 16, 2001; by Reene

I wonder if everyone quit trying how long it would be before the republican faithful started purging "undesirables" from American society.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 06:56

Kazinsal: Dec 13, 2011

Kawasaki Nun posted:

I wonder if everyone quit trying how long it would be before the republican faithful started purging "undesirables" from American society.

I believe that was a few months ago when ICE was throwing citizens in camps for having the sheer audacity to be brown.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 07:11

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

Years back around the 2012 election there was a lot of Islamophobia floating around. It didn't go away it just got drowned out a bit by a ton of other noise. All these dickheads were getting loud about how Islam is this special case unprecedented in how violent it is. My feeling at the time, and still is that loads of White Christians wouldn't behave any better if there was a major breakdown in the US and they thought they could get away with it.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 07:21

Prop Wash: Jun 12, 2010

Got it from discord, no idea who made it

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-hes-enlisted-brilliant-companies-to-assist-boris-johnson-they-have-arrived-in-london-already

quote:

"I've asked two of the leading companies -- these are brilliant companies -- Ebola, AIDS, others, they've come with the solutions and just have done incredible jobs -- and I've asked them to contact London immediately," Trump said.

He added: "They have offices in London, major companies -- more than major, more than size, they're genius. And I had a talk with four of them today and they speak a language that most people don't even understand. But I understand something: that they've really advanced therapeutics, and therapeutically, and they have arrived in London already. Their London office has whatever they need and we'll see if we can be of help. We've contacted all of Boris' doctors."

which companies? nobody knows!

# ? Apr 7, 2020 08:09

SimonCat: Aug 12, 2016; by Nyc_Tattoo; College Slice

Old Boot posted:

This would be why stacking the courts was a huge deal for me in the primary. It's not just reproductive rights and the myriad other poo poo the courts control, its poo poo like this that I've been watching take shape in my own backyard for the past decade.

The courts matter. This is why.

Past that, I'm legitimately at a loss for words. This situation is so profoundly hosed.

If you mean "packing the court," the problem with just adding more justices that agree with you is there is nothing stopping the Republicans from doing the same when they have the government. You end up with 61 Supreme Court justices stacked on top of each other and any legitimacy the body might have had will be gone.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 11:19

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/sta...ingawful.com%2F

# ? Apr 7, 2020 11:30

BurningChrome: Jan 18, 2020; They said she cooked her own cancers for people who crossed her, rococo custom variations that took years to kill you. They said a lot of things about Chrome, none of them at all reassuring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRg4-pCSMjM

# ? Apr 7, 2020 11:32

Woofer: Mar 2, 2020

SimonCat posted:

If you mean "packing the court," the problem with just adding more justices that agree with you is there is nothing stopping the Republicans from doing the same when they have the government. You end up with 61 Supreme Court justices stacked on top of each other and any legitimacy the body might have had will be gone.

Yeah they�re currently disenfranchising voters in a way I�ve never seen in my lifetime. We can�t let that legitimacy get compromised.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 11:58

pantslesswithwolves: Oct 28, 2008

Hot Karl Marx posted:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/sta...ingawful.com%2F

This election is going to be about which VP you want to take over for Biden or Trump because there�s no way either of them are going to last through the upcoming term.

It�s a hosed up state of affairs when you�re wondering whether Biden�s really sundowning this hard or GOP operatives are sinking low enough to edit videos to make Biden look like this (and are most definitely doing much worse things in the background.)

Edit: could he be talking about the influenza pandemic of 1918?

pantslesswithwolves fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Apr 7, 2020

# ? Apr 7, 2020 12:42

Old Boot: May 9, 2012; Buglord

Woofer posted:

Yeah they�re currently disenfranchising voters in a way I�ve never seen in my lifetime. We can�t let that legitimacy get compromised.

Yeah god forbid.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 12:51

Oxygenpoisoning: Feb 21, 2006

pantslesswithwolves posted:

This election is going to be about which VP you want to take over for Biden or Trump because there�s no way either of them are going to last through the upcoming term.

It�s a hosed up state of affairs when you�re wondering whether Biden�s really sundowning this hard or GOP operatives are sinking low enough to edit videos to make Biden look like this (and are most definitely doing much worse things in the background.)

Edit: could he be talking about the influenza pandemic of 1918?

Again I hate that I have to defend Biden because I don�t agree in the slightest with his politics, but the guy has a massive stutter that been documented over the last 40 years or so. I�m sure there might be some issues with him getting over, but he�s been misspeaking for the better part of his political career and this isn�t really out of the ordinary for him. If anything it just shows a lot of people didn�t know of him beyond �Obama�s VP.�

# ? Apr 7, 2020 12:59

BurningChrome: Jan 18, 2020; They said she cooked her own cancers for people who crossed her, rococo custom variations that took years to kill you. They said a lot of things about Chrome, none of them at all reassuring.

Woofer posted:

Yeah they�re currently disenfranchising voters in a way I�ve never seen in my lifetime. We can�t let that legitimacy get compromised.

I think we will. Because none of the poo poo that has happened over the past 4 years should have happened. But it did.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 12:59

pantslesswithwolves: Oct 28, 2008

pantslesswithwolves posted:

This election is going to be about which VP you want to take over for Biden or Trump because there�s no way either of them are going to last through the upcoming term.

It�s a hosed up state of affairs when you�re wondering whether Biden�s really sundowning this hard or GOP operatives are sinking low enough to edit videos to make Biden look like this (and are most definitely doing much worse things in the background.)

Edit: could he be talking about the influenza pandemic of 1918?

So the video came from ABC news and it wasn�t doctored. Relevant clip starts at 7:30 or so. I can only assume that he�s talking about the pandemic of 1918 but he�s inarticulate and imprecise on this.

https://youtu.be/K8UH3Gdmx8I

Admittedly the rest of the video isn�t great. Biden stumbles a bit and keeps repeating �follow the science� as his answer to many questions. I�ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to give non-specific answers lest they be picked apart by the Republicans, but it�s still not a great look.

Ninja edit: when I say he�s stumbling, I�m not referring to his stutter. That�d be a mean thing to go after him for.

Actual edit: yeah, even if Bernie is still my guy, I�ll take Biden over Trump without hesitation. I may hate it but it�s still better than a president who�s trying to kill as many people as possible.

pantslesswithwolves fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Apr 7, 2020

# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:01

Woofer: Mar 2, 2020

I am voting for Biden because I know what I�m getting with Trump.

If you�re not voting for Biden because he�s a piece of poo poo, go gently caress yourself. Take a look around you and look what at what the gently caress Trump is doing.

Then go gently caress yourself again.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:03

BurningChrome: Jan 18, 2020; They said she cooked her own cancers for people who crossed her, rococo custom variations that took years to kill you. They said a lot of things about Chrome, none of them at all reassuring.

Woofer posted:

I am voting for Biden because I know what I�m getting with Trump.

If you�re not voting for Biden because he�s a piece of poo poo, go gently caress yourself. Take a look around you and look what at what the gently caress Trump is doing.

Then go gently caress yourself again.

Let the galaxy burn

# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:06

Old Boot: May 9, 2012; Buglord

https://twitter.com/mattsmith_news/status/1247493559068000257

But let's not toy with SCOTUS the way it is, the other guys might do a bad thing.

EDIT: That's one polling place for 72,500 people.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:13

Bulky Bartokomous: Nov 3, 2006; In Mypos, only the strong survive.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Something this crisis is revealing is a mindset among many Americans that I've thought about previously, but hadn't quite put into words on paper.

There is a general sentiment among these people that "America is Great." If you ask them why, they'll of course rattle off a variety of platitudes�freedom, democracy, markets, ARE TROOPS, etc. But for the most part, the fact of America's Greatness is treated as a given, threatened only by ~the libs~, terrorists, and other extremely vague enemies.

There are many reasons, of course, why the United States is such a powerful, wealthy, and influential country: Two and a half centuries of expansion, reform, industry, and luck. It happened because people built systems that were refined over generations, often through bloodshed, whose benefits are now so taken for granted and spared so little thought that to the average person they may not exist at all�even if these systems have an immense impact on their daily lives.

But for the "America is Great" crowd, greatness is not a series of deeply interconnected systems and circumstances�greatness simply is, and even when they acknowledge those systems it's as an obstacle to further Greatness rather than an underpinning reason for it. The United States didn't win World War II through intense preparation, close cooperation between industry, the government, and labor, and the mass sacrifice and bloodshed of American, British, and (especially) Soviet blood�we did it because we were just that great. The United States didn't outlast the Soviet Union in the Cold War because the Soviet system was filled with deep, irreconcilable flaws dating back to the Stalin era and exposed by war, changing political winds, and economic crisis�it was because we were always destined to win, because we were great. And on, and on. And because greatness is a given, they don't have any interest in how it came to be or what it takes to maintain it�and they assume that no matter what they do, it will always be there�so long as a goddamn socialist doesn't get into office.

Nowhere is this more evident than in the response to COVID-19. A common question you often hear is "How could this happen? How could the richest and most powerful country on earth lack ventilators and protective equipment? How could we be so unprepared?" The answer, of course, is simple: We were unprepared because the administration, now almost entirely filled with loyalists to a man whose campaign slogan is "Keep America Great," did not believe preparation was necessary. They believed that the sheer fact that America was great would protect us and shepherd us through the crisis, with no expense or sacrifice required. And even now, as the crisis deepens, their focus isn't on saving lives and protecting the American people, without whom there would be no America�but on protecting "The economy," an arbitrary number made from imaginary dollars that, in their final sense, are mere pieces of paper or digits on a screen. Hundreds of thousands of may die, but they worked hard to protect what mattered�and after all, wouldn't millions more have died if America wasn't Great?

The firing of Captain Crozier, and the response by the Naval Secretary, is a microcosm of this attitude. Crozier, who has been a naval officer since before I was born, and in command of one of the most powerful warships ever built, recognized that each of his hundred thousand nuclear-powered tons of his vessel was worthless without the lives and health of his sailors. Faced with a crisis, he did what he had to do to protect his crew, temporarily ceasing operations to ensure the ship and her crew could regain combat status as quickly as possible while maintaining safety and morale. But in response he has been intensely criticized and removed from his post�not for not acting sooner and more decisively, but for "violating operational secrecy" and leaving our country open to exploitation by vague, undefined enemies. For in the minds of those who believe in America's inherent greatness, it does not matter how effective the ship is, or whether the crew lay dying of preventable disease�only that they do it out of sight, belowdecks, and that the ship remain sailing.

There is a quote I sometimes think about, one I've used before. In 1941, the British Army had lost the Battle of Crete. Tens of thousands of soldiers were stranded on that Mediterranean island, their only hope lying in an evacuation force protected by the ships of the Royal Navy. Sailing without air cover, the ships were hideously vulnerable to German air attack, and several warships were sunk. But at the height of the battle, when asked whether to call off the evacuation, Admiral Cunningham replied: "It takes the Navy three years to build a ship. It will take three hundred years to build a new tradition. The evacuation will continue."

In the end, three cruisers and six destroyers were sunk�but fifteen thousand men were rescued.

If you count from the Declaration of Independence (Though even that document has roots over a thousand years deep), it has taken nearly two hundred and fifty years to build America to what it is now: Three hundred and fifty million lives, connected together not just by lines on a map or pieces of paper but by a shared belief in the idea of America. They are what makes, and have always made, America 'Great' � if it ever truly was. But the people who believe in America's inherent greatness don't see that.

All they see is the ship.

This is really well thought out and wonderfully written. It is the best thing I have read in a while, not just here, but anywhere.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:25

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Old Boot posted:

https://twitter.com/mattsmith_news/status/1247493559068000257

But let's not toy with SCOTUS the way it is, the other guys might do a bad thing.

EDIT: That's one polling place for 72,500 people.

So we're socially distancing ourselves from Democracy in WI but not people.

This is 100% failed state poo poo. How is any result in WI today going to be legitimate in any way.

Logged in and saw "Fauci or the Jews" trending on twitter....

https://twitter.com/AaronKClark/status/1247496403695239168

e:

:cool:

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1247335425074696199

That Works fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Apr 7, 2020

# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:25

Old Boot: May 9, 2012; Buglord

That Works posted:

This is 100% failed state poo poo. How is any result in WI today going to be legitimate in any way.

It's not, and a lot of people are going to die for it.

Like I can't even be glib about it, and it's hard to articulate how this feels. Like there are no poo poo vultures that stood by waiting for this to happen, for Evers to 'cave' and try and make an executive order to stop what was about to happen, and used the opportunity afforded to them by someone saying 'maybe people shouldn't die like this' to wedge their foot in the door. They knew the same court they concentrated all the power in prior to his taking office would rule in their favor.

We all saw that coming. But the SCOTUS hit that came after it?

It's not that I was ever unaware of how craven the GOP was. I just feel like I'm in a state of shock at the moment, and pretty much have been all night.

EDIT: The sheer amount of despair coming from other Wisconsinites this morning is pretty intense right now. I'm gonna go have a drink.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:42

Mr. Bad Guy: Jun 28, 2006

Woofer posted:

I am voting for Biden because I know what I�m getting with Trump.

If you�re not voting for Biden because he�s a piece of poo poo, go gently caress yourself. Take a look around you and look what at what the gently caress Trump is doing.

Then go gently caress yourself again.

I want you to have the mental health care you obviously need, and I want it to be free. As a cherry on top, it doesn't require voting for a rapist.

Namaste.

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# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:43

ASAPI: Apr 20, 2007; I invented the line.

Remember how those hospital ships were going to help?

https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/crewmember-on-usns-comfort-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/

Crew are testing positive for the virus.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:43

Woofer: Mar 2, 2020

Mr. Bad Guy posted:

I want you to have the mental health care you obviously need, and I want it to be free. As a cherry on top, it doesn't require voting for a rapist.

Namaste.

Ok Trump supporter.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:44

Flying_Crab: Apr 12, 2002

Woofer posted:

I am voting for Biden because I know what I�m getting with Trump.

If you�re not voting for Biden because he�s a piece of poo poo, go gently caress yourself. Take a look around you and look what at what the gently caress Trump is doing.

Then go gently caress yourself again.

Biden is a garbage candidate, but that's all relative. To say there is even a question between Trump and Biden is insane. Now do I think Trump is likely to beat Biden because he's a garbage tier candidate? Yes. Think of it as not voting for Biden but strictly as voting against Trump, even though that's likely to be the reason why Trump might win as Biden offers nothing to vote for.

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Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

Mr. Bad Guy posted:

I want you to have the mental health care you obviously need

Namaste.

Wow, dude.

# ? Apr 7, 2020 13:48

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