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Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

Rhyno posted:

Ugh, we had one of those guys too. When the ownership of the store changed (sons bought out the dad) they told him they weren't selling porn anymore and we rarely saw him after that.

This is why the Direct Market is dying. :(

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Gripweed posted:

This is why the Direct Market is dying. :(

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

The upside of Previews Adult not being published was I never had to look through Previews Adult again to order things for people.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I miss none of that.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

site posted:

This is just the laziest, stupidest kind of gotcha

It wasn't a gotcha. It's one thing to scroll past people posting stuff they like that I don't care for, it's another thing when some fucker is evangelizing their niche bullshit multiple posts in a row.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
"wow, you think [general media] is okay?? so that means [specific thing people have repeatedly complained about] is cool to post?? :smuggo:"

dont be a dipshit

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




site posted:

"wow, you think [general media] is okay?? so that means [specific thing people have repeatedly complained about] is cool to post?? :smuggo:"

dont be a dipshit

Sometimes rules get put in place with broad reach in order to stop narrow behavior and prevent future similarly narrow behavior, and clarification is useful when the broad rule changes.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
the rule didnt change manga has been allowed here forever what even is this

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Rhyno posted:

Ugh, we had one of those guys too. When the ownership of the store changed (sons bought out the dad) they told him they weren't selling porn anymore and we rarely saw him after that.
Serious question: so you have this customer who buys basically nothing but cheesecake stuff. You don't want to be the kind of store that peddles in that stuff, but is it more work to just let the dude preorder everything he wants, stick it in his file, and never put it on shelves? Seems like it's leaving easy money on the table, but I certainly understand just not wanting that kind of material/customer around.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Endless Mike posted:

Serious question: so you have this customer who buys basically nothing but cheesecake stuff. You don't want to be the kind of store that peddles in that stuff, but is it more work to just let the dude preorder everything he wants, stick it in his file, and never put it on shelves? Seems like it's leaving easy money on the table, but I certainly understand just not wanting that kind of material/customer around.

If it had only been books we'd have been fine but he wanted statues and DVDs and all manner of poo poo. We just didn't want any other customers seeing that poo poo in the store in any way.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Soonmot posted:

It wasn't a gotcha. It's one thing to scroll past people posting stuff they like that I don't care for, it's another thing when some fucker is evangelizing their niche bullshit multiple posts in a row.

I mean this entire subforum is niche bullshit, but to address your specific concern:

It's going to happen once in awhile that there's some hot title that people want to post a ton of-- the title for the Badass Panels thread still refers to that period where every other page in it was from Aaron's Thor, and the Funny Panels thread had, for a time, probably enough Squirrel Girl that you could piece together a rough idea of what she was up to each month just by perusing it. I don't consider that spamming, partially because it never (as far as I remember) fell into long obnoxious chains, and it was a board-wide enthusiasm instead of just one person bombarding the threads. I'll be frank, I don't like Garth Ennis' Punisher and I think Fat Cobra is unfunny in 90% of his appearances so I roll my eyes whenever either of those things is having a hot streak in here, but I wouldn't consider that kind of over-saturation "spamming."

I think something related is when a specific poster is working through a backlog of a long-running title or enjoying something kind of obscure and ends up posting stuff from it over a period of time-- I think this is where a lot of the manga posts fall, somebody being excited about a comic many BSS users might not be aware of and wanting to share cool things from it. You can tell every one in awhile, to go back to a Western example, when somebody is working through O'Neill's Question. I think this is a matter of discretion tbh, but as long as I've been modding I've never seen a case where I felt like somebody was clogging up the threads per se. I felt a little guilty about posting three scenes from CITY in a week but I'm going to drop it, but I don't think it's been a problem lately in general.

I honestly don't remember the volleyball thing people are talking about very well, but I do want to note that the recent revision to the BSS rules also states pretty specifically that there's an upper limit to how much stuff you can post from a given comic. I talked with X-O about this and we both feel that seven pages is a good cap, both to avoid piracy stuff and to nip precisely the kind of spamming you're worried about. This rule applies to people posting Quantum & Woody just as much as it applies to people posting Nichijou.

I also want to note that if a specific person is posting in a grating or gratuitous way about manga (or about anything) I do read the report queue pretty regularly and I also keep on all of the active threads here. If somebody is acting like what you're describing please trust me that they won't be acting like that for long. Again, I don't think it's been an issue for some time, and I haven't gotten any reports about people over-saturating the Panels threads with a personal hobbyhorse at all since coming on in December.

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




How Wonderful! posted:

I also want to note that if a specific person is posting in a grating or gratuitous way about manga (or about anything) I do read the report queue pretty regularly and I also keep on all of the active threads here. If somebody is acting like what you're describing please trust me that they won't be acting like that for long. Again, I don't think it's been an issue for some time, and I haven't gotten any reports about people over-saturating the Panels threads with a personal hobbyhorse at all since coming on in December.

I think the person Soonmoot is referring to hasn't posted in that way for quite some time (everything blurs together when you get old but long before you became mod) but it was more memorable because the posting wasn't just in the panels threads, it was kinda everywhere. Essentially a work-safe variant of Dark Tittymansxs's constant Red Hood evangelicalism.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
/\/\/\/\yes


Thanks, that was all I was looking for. My comments on manga in general were separate from my actual concern. I probably shouldn't have poked the anime fans like that and I apologize.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

How Wonderful! posted:

I'll be frank, I don't like Garth Ennis' Punisher

:dadjoke:

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Hugo nominees

http://www.thehugoawards.org/hugo-history/2020-hugo-awards/

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Apr 8, 2020

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




It's cruel to have Ted Chiang nominated in multiple categories.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


My dad got hospitalized due to a severe attack of confusion related to his dementia. He'd stopped eating for some days and was so out of it he couldn't differentiate between people in his home and people on tv. I can't even visit him because of this stupid loving pandemic.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Lurdiak posted:

My dad got hospitalized due to a severe attack of confusion related to his dementia. He'd stopped eating for some days and was so out of it he couldn't differentiate between people in his home and people on tv. I can't even visit him because of this stupid loving pandemic.

I'm sorry you're going through that Lurdiak, especially during this time. My dad's cognitive functions are also in rapid decline and I wish I could be there with him too. I hope you can get a chance to talk over the phone at least, as painful as it may be, get your feelings out in a letter, or at least connect with other family members. It's cold comfort but for me it helps and makes the physical distance feel slightly less intractable.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Lurdiak posted:

My dad got hospitalized due to a severe attack of confusion related to his dementia. He'd stopped eating for some days and was so out of it he couldn't differentiate between people in his home and people on tv. I can't even visit him because of this stupid loving pandemic.

Sorry to hear that mate. I don't know how close you are with other family members and such but if you are and if you are in position to talk to them perhaps get in contact with them as well to talk about your dad. It might help both you and them.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

Lurdiak posted:

My dad got hospitalized due to a severe attack of confusion related to his dementia. He'd stopped eating for some days and was so out of it he couldn't differentiate between people in his home and people on tv. I can't even visit him because of this stupid loving pandemic.

I am so sorry for what you and your family are experiencing.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
So there’s this Facebook fan community that’s built up around cartoonist kayfabe and there are a bunch of creators on there. They decided to create a zine, and it came out recently.

It rules. It’s got interviews, comics (new and reprints), interesting articles, and fake ads.





site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
actually looks decent which begs me to ask how long the turnaround on this was from conception to release, to compare to say, cyberfrog

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

site posted:

actually looks decent which begs me to ask how long the turnaround on this was from conception to release, to compare to say, cyberfrog

Like 2 months I think.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Lurdiak posted:

My dad got hospitalized due to a severe attack of confusion related to his dementia. He'd stopped eating for some days and was so out of it he couldn't differentiate between people in his home and people on tv. I can't even visit him because of this stupid loving pandemic.

That sucks. You're not the only person I know that's been having the problem of loved ones being sick and isolated because of the pandemic. It's a lovely deal all around.


Still working my way through April 1996. This time it's the Supreme books and the Maximum Press stuff.

Confession time: I'm having some trouble sourcing a few comics for obvious reasons. Now 95% of what remains through the end of the project wasn't too difficult to handle. I had a roadmap of what series I needed, after all. It's the comics that were announced as series and then got one issue that trip me up. When it turns out I can't yank things from the "can't give it away" bin, I've turned to the usual sources like eBay. However, now everything has slowed to a painful crawl. I had to skip one March comic because it hadn't arrived yet and I'm in the same boat again with this post. It's at least a week off, too. So I'm going to have to go back and do a catch up on those comics (Lady Pendragon #1 and Devlin #1, for those who care; no they're not available digitally though Lady Pendragon at one point was).

Supreme #38 - I kind of liked where things were going last issue after the series had been adrift for a while. It's been a pattern with Supreme where something shakes things up and it's interesting and then nothing happens with that (whatever happened to evil CEO who was going to steal New Supreme's body?). It comes from changing writers every two issues.

And as if in response to my complaint, page one immediately revives a plot point that I thought was dead where the rulers of Not Really Earth were getting ready to do something mysteriously evil to Supreme. They launch their own attack as the brawl between Old Supreme in Even Older Supreme's body, Even Older Supreme in Old Supreme's body, Lady Supreme (again, actual name there) in her brother's body that's become a woman, the weird faceless Enigma, and Loki is expanding. They've been weakening the Supremes, who he calls "Imposters", and with a third Supreme drained he thinks he'll be able to escape the planet. Then he mentions being betrayed by his sister and trapped in a burned up body so that points to it being Future Supreme who mind swapped with Lady Supreme/Probe and then got blown up.

Loki summons the Star Guard, Lady Supreme's old team consisting of descendants of Supreme so now I've got a giant pile of Supremes here. Loki's plan might not have been the best since Lady Supreme immediately goes, "Hey Probe, I'm you and that guy's Loki." Then for no reason the Star Guard attacks. That's not a joke, either; they're talking it out on one page and then the next they're just attacking. The trio of Supremes who were fighting each other join forces to beat the future Supremes and Val-en, the one whose body became New Supreme, gets knocked out by the mysterious figure that rules the planet. The mysterious figure is thrilled because he can transfer his mind into his original body. Loki is the one who brought Val-en's consciousness to the planet and set him up in a new body as a trap. When he tries to swap bodies back, he explodes leaving Val-en with his original mind.

After that, the fight wraps up with even depowered Supremes able to take out the Star Guard which doesn't speak well for them. Lady Supreme accidentally burns the legs off a lieutenant of the evil future Val-en. And Loki goes, "Well that was a way to spend an issue," and sends the Star Guard away. It's time for Loki to join the fray as a god.

Good lord there's a lot of exposition in this comic. It doesn't help that there's multiple versions of half the characters, a lot of them are in the wrong bodies but they all did it separately, and there's a whole team of people to reintroduce. All of that just so there can be a brawl that doesn't advance the story one moment past where we were at the end of the previous issue. If Evil Future Val-en never showed up I would have just gone, "Okay, that must have been a plot point they dumped when they wanted to clear the deck for Alan Moore." There wasn't even any involvement from our main characters in the resolution of that thread. It all happened around them.

Kid Supreme #2 - Issue one of this series was just an enormous, unreadable mess. I will say that it makes me want to read Impulse again because that's an actually good comic that works off the same concept.

The issue starts with Kid Supreme fighting Reptyle, science teacher turned bipedal lizard. Reptyle avoids infringing on any trademarks by having an additional mouth on the tip of his tongue. It's only there for one panel, though. As someone with the power to go toe to toe with gods struggles to free himself from the tail of a guy with the proportional strength of an alligator, it flashes back to football tryouts where Kid Supreme was... uh... I don't know what he was doing there. He doesn't want to take part because it would be dangerous for everyone else but he's suited up and ready to go when called in. So I don't know why he was there. Anyway, he effortlessly outpaces everyone while running and the coach wants him on the team.

After Kid Supreme foiled a hit last issue, a mobster has called in some super powered help and meets with the the African-American hitman. Care to guess what his superpowers are? As a reminder, the comic was written and drawn by comicsgater Dan Fraga. So yes, he has electrical powers. And he talks the way racist white guys think "gangstas" talk to give it that extra oomph.

Back at school, Kid Supreme is hanging out in the library when the lizard guy who has a head full of snakes, so I guess it wasn't his tongue, crashes through the wall. That catches up to the start of the comic and Kid Supreme in a caption box says that the snakes on his head were his tongue and I'm just confused. Anyway, he ends the fight in one page by turning on the heat vision and Reptyle just disappears. The end.

Well, it was more focused than last issue, but they haven't given me any reason to give a poo poo about this book yet. There's also some teenage girls drawn extra sexy because of course this book is going to be that skeevy.

I was page nine before any panel had a background. The line backgrounds and blank voids were getting on my nerves so much that I had to check that.

There's another teen talking to Kid Supreme at the end of the issue and it occurs to me that this is his first day at this school and up to that point we hadn't seen him interact with anybody except the school bully. There was no "Hi, I'm the character who is obviously going to be your best friend. This is the girl that will obviously be your love interest," scene or anything like that. The characters are drawn in a void and exist in a void.

Avengelyne #1 - They've dropped the rotating miniseries approach for Avengelyne, who I agree has a pretty stupid name though when it comes to babes with blades comics from the 90's there's a long list of awful names to choose from. From this point on, it's a regular ongoing series for her with occasional one-shots.

On page two there's an impressively bad writing mistake. Avengelyne and Father Peter have arrived back in New York to find their church on fire. The firefighters tell them that everybody got out before the firefighters arrived. Then in the next panel, they say that they had to pull the old priest out of the sanctuary. Also, that's a protestant use of "sanctuary" in a church building rather than catholic because for a guy who loves pumping his comics full of religion, Liefeld doesn't actually know much about it.

As Avengelyne looks sad about the church burning down, the Demon Lords are having a party where they're watching her be sad. Avengelyne as one mortal woman in one city is too much of a threat to their world wide plans and they devise a plan to end her: hiring someone with a sniper rifle to shoot her from a three blocks away going after her heart.

Avengelyne is sorting through the rubble when she has a meet cute with Kyle, one of the most dedicated members of the church. He also joined less than a week ago since he arrived after Avengelyne and Peter went to LA and it's impossible for that to be longer than a week. Some demons show up in human form to taunt the people at the ruins and a fight breaks out where Kyle and Avengelyne drive them off.

That night, the old priest announces that the Vatican is declining to rebuild the church. So the priest asks to be released from his vows so he can rebuild the church on his own and that's not how any of this works. But Kyle then shouts John 3:16 at the priest over this because Rob Liefeld as the writer and Robert Napton as the scripter really do not understand anything about religion. Anyways, saying those words instantly converts everyone there to Protestantism. Seriously.

At this point I'm uncertain if my massive headache is eyestrain, stress, or from me banging my head against the wall over and over again.

After that, Kyle heads home where he meets B'liale, demon lord and his boss. What a shock.

Kyle and Avengelyne head out on a date when a demon that looks like the Hulk drops onto their car. Avengelyne fights but the demon wants to talk and keeps trying to tell her that Kyle is a bad guy. She winds up beheading the demon with a stop sign and the attack brings her and Kyle closer.

There's one infamous religious scene that Rob Liefeld drew that I'm going to be talking about in my very last post for this project. I thought nothing Liefeld did could be quite so ham-fistedly sacrilegious. And then I read this issue where a guy spouting the single most commonly repeated bible verse out there causes dozens of people to go, "gently caress the police pope! Have you checked out these 95 theses?"

Battlestar Galactica: Apollo's Journey #1 - I was hoping that this would be a flashback series but I might not be that lucky. The first page is a continuation of The Enemy Within. Doesn't mean that it won't heavily involve flashbacks, but we're not starting there.

All of the Cylon base stars have gotten their super engine upgrades so it's time for them to attack Earth and they're sending everybody. Turn the page and Apollo is giving the Jor-el speech to the council except he's talking about the Cyclons sending all of their base stars to attack simultaneously. That was a lucky coincidence. Apollo's solution is to abandon Earth and hunt for the thirteenth tribe. Cain takes the opportunity to call Apollo a wimp and say that he should be in charge of the military. The council thinks there's no way that Krypton will explode the Cylons will attack like that so they refuse to do anything.

Count Iblis appears before three guys who have been on a prison ship since the original series. They're the Nomen and Iblis tells them that they can have anybody who survives the Cylon attack as slaves.

Apollo is obsessing over his first wife and Sheba, his current wife, isn't having any of that. Iblis appears to Apollo as she runs off. Apollo being so down after Starbuck died lets Iblis do... er... something. It gives Apollo a dark side, I guess? Anyway, that's when Tigh shows up as the president of Earth to say, "Yep, Krypton Earth is absolutely not doomed and you're being so crazy we're giving you a leave of absence." Apollo declares martial law in response and orders the council to be locked up. Cain calls up to say, "You can't do this, I'm in charge now," and Apollo has him over so they can resolve this with a fist fight. Apollo pulls a gun on him when other people show up and then the gun goes off. Apollo says it's Iblis who pulled the trigger, but he's the one who took out a gun and aimed it at someone. With Cain mortally wounded and Apollo in prison, the Nomen make their move to infiltrate the Galactica.

Apollo prays in his cell for help and Serena, his dead wife, appears before him. She tells him that the power to fight Iblis was inside him all along. No, not because he has a good heart after all or because any person can overcome evil or anything like that. Apollo has mind powers that Serena offers to unlock. President Tigh comes for a visit and Apollo overpowers the guards to escape. Then he steals a Viper starfighter and heads out into space. As the crew prepares to intercept, the Nomen capture the bridge of the Galactica.

This comic is not making Apolllo look like a good guy. More like he's a total piece of poo poo that the writers don't realize is a piece of poo poo. While we may know that he's right about the Cylon's coming to attack, there's no way for him to know this and so he's raving like a lunatic even before he's "influenced" by Iblis. And Iblis's influence as referenced in the comic several times doesn't seem to make him do anything different. Then there's the "BTW, you're super special and have magic powers," poo poo.

The story in this comic was by Richard Hatch who played Apollo in the original series, spent a long time trying to get a revival of the series off the ground, and then got mad when the revival he had nothing to do with became super popular. Not mad enough to turn down a reoccurring role on the series, but mad. That's probably why there's a lot of "Apollo is the best and smartest and does awesome things" in the comic while also having him come across as a real poo poo head.


Next time, my final Extreme crossover (I think). Will we go out on a high note?




Jordan7hm posted:

So there’s this Facebook fan community that’s built up around cartoonist kayfabe and there are a bunch of creators on there. They decided to create a zine, and it came out recently.

That looks like they had a lot of fun.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
Dang it I am stupidly late here. Wishing all Jewish goons a Chag (peasach) Sameach. May your matzah induced constipation be mild and may next year sedars be quarantine-free.

Edit: lol apparently some DC fans on Instagram are upset that DC used Batwoman to say Happy Passover instead of Ragman. Wonder why that might be.

Madkal fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Apr 9, 2020

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Never mind. Browser problem.

Open Marriage Night fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Apr 9, 2020

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



It's the end of April 1996 for me. Remember those heady days before everything suddenly went off a cliff?

Anyway, you might remember that I mentioned Shadowhawk was going to be moved over to the Extreme Studios group. That didn't happen before the end of the previous Shadowhawk series, but now he's part of the group with a special crossover to induct him.

What I remember of Shadowhawk is he's a guy who breaks criminals spins rather than kill them and he died of AIDS. Beyond that, I don't know anything that's going on with the character. So let the Shadowhunt, commence!

Shadowhunt Special #1 - Holy gently caress there's a racial slur in the first word balloon. Robert Loren Flemming, you scripted this issue so you get the blame.

Two guys have just robbed a convenience store and shot the clerk. On a rooftop outside, however, stands Shadowhawk. They take off running but since Shadowhawk is a superhero that obviously doesn't work. Bullets bounce off his arm and then he throws a knife through one robber's forehead and shoves the stolen cash down the other's throat so he chokes on it. I guess that means the spine breaking isn't Extreme enough. He also crushes a police car that pulls up and threatens the police inside for speeding.

At the police station, some cops are complaining that their new Shadowhawk robot is on a rampage. The male cops all gets suits and ties while the woman is wearing a sports bra that's way too small for her in one of the more absurd scenes for fashion I've seen in these books. I then get some helpful exposition from them. That's not even sarcasm, this is stuff I needed to know to understand this story. There were four different Shadowhawks working around the world and they were part of a giant lineage of Shadowhawks. Way back in the paleolithic era, justice was stolen from humanity by a bad guy called the Bone Man who then split it up into four parts so it couldn't come after him. Yesterday the four Shadowhawks that resulted from this (there's also something about the Egyptian god Horus doing something but it feels like a caption is missing there) got together and blew up the Bone Man. The whole spirit of Justice got a shiny robot body out the deal while the rest of the Shadowhawks, who are the cops in that room, lost their powers. Presumably that's a lot of cruft that accumulated from trying to have a dramatic revelation about a character every few months for the past four years.

The cops have a plan to stop the new super Shadowhawk: get a magic book with info on the Hawks, get a lot of guns to fight it with, and get a tablet with Horus's phone number on it. Meanwhile Robo-Shadowhawk continues its rampage. A jaywalker gets his Achilles tendons cut. A woman is about to be raped in Central Park (and is stripped on panel by her assailants because it's that kind of comic) and Shadowhawk does a Vlad the Impaler style punishment on the gang after her. It's also getting really close to concluding that all crimes are committed by the living, therefore life itself is a crime. As the cops are going over that crime scene, the FBI comes in to say they're taking over the case and they've brought in Chapel to handle it.

I feel like this would make more sense and a continuation of Shadowhawk for people who had read the previous books. I don't know if this is a big change up or if Shadowhawk was already a vigilante about to go over the edge.

Maybe it's me, but I feel like the book is strangely humorless for its topic. Justice out of control is usually a theme that's accompanied by absurdity; Judge Dredd is the obvious point of comparison for comic books. The closest we get is the jaywalker. I don't want to complain too hard about a book not being what I want to be, it's just I feel like the story would work better that way.

Chapel #7 - It's the final issue of this series of Chapel. I think it's not the last Chapel comic for me, though, since there's a team-up book for him coming. There hasn't been anything good in this series yet so why would it start now with the final issue?

Chapel's FBI handler is a big fan of his and wants to tag along with him as he hunts down the Shadowhawk robot. Chapel isn't having any of that, though. He's extra disturbed because he liked the original Shadowhawk and doesn't want the robot ruining the reputation. Shadowhawk is breaking up another crime and gets into a fight with the police afterward. Chapel spots this from a rooftop and fires an RPG into the robot sending it into a tanker truck. Obviously this was a job well done as Chapel turns his back on the fiery explosion to walk away. Who would have guessed that the Shadowhawkbot would emerge from the inferno to attack.

Shadowhawk sentences Chapel to disembowelment for destruction of property. They have a standard fight scene with a minor interruption by an attack helicopter. Shadowhawk gets the best of Chapel, impaling him, but the FBI agent Chapel ran off at the start of the issue saves him by threatening to shoot the bullet proof robot in the head. There's a big explosion destroying the building they were standing on and only Shadowhawk emerges from the rubble. That convinces the government that it's time to send in Youngblood.

And so Chapel's own series ends without any closure for the character himself. I don't think there's any serious implication that he's dead, this is just a bog standard cliffhanger.

Youngblood #7 - I flipped ahead to see how this series ends and I've got to tell you, there's no way I would have predicted it in a million years. So you've got something to look forward to in a few issues. Back to the crossover for now, though.

This one starts with Shadowhawk standing over an unconscious Chapel. Apparently it decides not to disembowel him for no good reason and just leave him lying there. Youngblood is mobilized in three teams to try to stop the robot. Die Hard is mad that nobody is considering the robot's feelings. Vogue is crying in the fetal position again because of relationship troubles. Sentinel is happy to be back in the field. Battlestone is grupy that Lord Dredd has usurped his position as head of Youngblood. Brahma is back on the team for no reason.

In New York, Shadowhawk is about to execute an old woman for littering but instead blows up a truck with its driver inside it for not meeting emission standards. Youngblood catches up with it as it's killing people for driving in the carpool lane with no one else in the car. Brahma punches Shadowhawk into a wall which stops it. Then he disposes of the robot's weapons by tossing them away next to a "No dumping" sign. So this book is definitely going for the lighter touch on the concept. Shadowhawk impales Brahma for his crime and the Youngblood group that's there rushes him to the hospital leaving robowoman Kia (who I still don't know where she came from or why she's in the book) to deal with the other robot. She's not a fighter, so tries to talk it out and that's when the next Youngblood group shows up.

So this issue was leaning into the goofier side of this concept. It wasn't funny, but it was a step up from the relentlessly serious version of events I had been getting so far. Robert Cruz's art is also much more cartoony than the previous issues, though he stays silly even in moments that should be serious. Brahma probably shouldn't have an exaggerated funny face as he collapses with a hold through his body.

Team Youngblood #22 - It's another final issue. The revival of this one only managed to go for two issues before it got dropped again.

The just arrived Youngblood team starts fighting immediately until Shadowhawk flies. It starts taking out tension cables on the Brooklyn Bridge (it look like the Brooklyn Bridge so until they said they were there later in the comic I didn't know where it was supposed to be). Shaft and the third Youngblood team arrive then to rescue the falling team members. Shadowhawk says that Youngblood are seditionists, even though they aren't saying negative things about the country.

Riptide drenches Knightsabre because he's a dick, and he spurts some water out in front of a "no spitting" sign marking him for death. Shadowhawk moves in for the kill and Shaft takes a shot to stop it... by aiming at Knightsabre's head. It would be a legit clever idea here except they spent an entire page on the other team members going, "What are you doing Shaft? You've got the wrong arrows and you're aiming at the wrong place and you're going to hit Knightsabre and why did you did that?" It could have been more easily told visually and it would have been a lot better. Anyway, Shadowhawk catches the arrow and heads after Shaft for attempted murder.

Shaft's bow is destroyed immediately forcing him to go hand to hand against Shadowhawk. With some specialty arrows in his hands, though, Shaft manages to severely damage the rampaging robot. That's when New Man shows up and says he's in charge now.

I was honestly surprised that there were a few fun ideas in this comic. Poorly executed, but any seeing any fun idea in a Youngblood book is pretty rare.

New Man #4 - We've got one more final issue this month. Sure are a lot of those going around. I won't know until the last page if this was intended to be a final issue, though.

New Man wants to take Robo Shadowhawk to a body that can house the spirit of justice in it. Youngblood isn't having that, though since they want to smash the robot. I don't see why smashing the robot is a bad plan since the spirit would just go to a new body anyway but they have to have a fight. New Man's poorly defined super psychic powers are failing so he thinks he can't actually take out the Youngbloods, though since New Man effortlessly beat them before the Younbloods are wary. Riptide points out that New Man is breaking the law by harboring a fugitive and they would have to arrest him. It's a ruse to get Shadowhawk to attack New Man and open itself up to Badrock using Kia to knock Shadowhawk's head off. New Man grabs the head and teleports away.

Cut to "later" when New Man has established a new secret identity for himself. He cheats a guy running a three card monte scam and watches. Eddie is a kid who plays basketball, gets a date, and helps a guy getting beaten up. New Man decides he's the new Shadowhawk and gives him the helmet. Then New Man is off to return home to Detroit.

There's no "to be continued", but it was definitely supposed to continue. New Man ends like it was, with no clue who New Man is or what he's doing. If this book didn't exist, absolutely nothing would be different in the Extreme universe. New Man was such a pointless character, I won't be shocked if he never appears again.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
Random stranger you have inspired me. I have recently been doing rereads of comics I haven't read in years and I'm now going to re read my complete (I think) collection of Curse of the Spawn. The first Spawn ongoing spinoff. I haven't read this comics in about 20 years (probably holding off thinking they would be worth something some day). Will it be good? Will it be bad? Will it be readable? I will find out.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Marvel about to get #metoo'd

https://twitter.com/GailSimone/status/1248307246653534208?s=20

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
jeeze ben, you just got married a few months ago and youre already tryin to cheat

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



site posted:

jeeze ben, you just got married a few months ago and youre already tryin to cheat

Are we sure they're not in an open relationship or poly?

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


I know Alicia wants to see other people.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

site posted:

jeeze ben, you just got married a few months ago and youre already tryin to cheat

Johnny technically was married to her as well

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Open Marriage Night posted:

I know Alicia wants to see other people.

:eyepop:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Open Marriage Night posted:

I know Alicia wants to see other people.

Also quoting because this needs all the attention

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
It would be so easy to say that Invisible Woman sent nudes too.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



This is everything for May of 1996 for the Extreme Studios/Maximum Press Comics, a grand total of ten comics this month (plus one because it didn't show up in my April listings but it was an April book). There's three new number ones, but you may have noticed that new books published by Rob Liefeld don't exactly have long life spans these days.

One more fun thing about May: this is the breaking point. We don't see it on these books, but Liefeld had a terrible idea that he was going to implement: he was going to take the Image imprint off the covers of his books and replace it with an Extreme Studios logo. Liefeld's antics had already made several of the partners in Image furious. Liefeld neglecting publishing to chase movie deals. He was running two comic book companies at once out of the same offices. He refused to make any comics himself. He had no follow through on anything. Everything bad about Image (not really, but an awful lot of it and this was the view some of the partners) could be laid at the feet of Liefeld. Now one of them went, "It's either him or me!" We'll see how that plays out in June.

Celestine #1 - From the pages of that Angela/Glory series and Badrock/Violator, the angriest angel gets her own series. Of course, now Liefeld is publishing two books about angels from very different concepts of heaven. But at least they're from separate lines and there wouldn't be any connection; well, other than the fact that Glory keeps teaming up with them.

Even before I get into the story I've got two surprises for me. The recap page calls says the Violator/Badrock comic is "now classic" which is a real stretch even if Alan Moore wrote that. The other, bigger surprise for me is the writer: Warren Ellis. Maybe there will be something good or at least interesting in this comic? In a couple of months, Ellis is going to start DV8 at Image; good creators being pulled in by Liefeld who leave Extreme almost immediately to start something more significant under the regular Image banner is going to be a bit of a running theme this month.

The opening narration which shows us Celestine falling after she dies in Violator/Badrock. She was the angel who implemented all of the terrible things in the old testament, just like The Spectre currently in his own ongoing series at DC. The opening narration also has Ellis telling the reader how he's better than us; I thought it might be a demon narrating but it's definitely an omniscient narrator with the writer's voice saying his imagination is much more expansive than the reader's.

I have to mention Celestine's outfit because it really is that awful. From the back, she's wearing a leotard that rides up far enough to be uncomfortable. That's standard attire for women in these comics. From the front she's wearing nothing. No sign of the leotard which in rear shots wraps around her body. Naturally there's strategically placed ribbons, splashes of energy, and a string bikini bottom that isn't tied. She complements this fashion choice with a pair of cybernetic high-heel boots.

Celestine is still in hell after she dies and a demon offers to guide her through it. She kills it, but since this is hell it just gets up as a pack of demon dogs which overwhelm her and drag her off. We're given Ellis's view of hell with the Lake of the Useless and the Hall of the Undecided. Celestine demonstrates some real lack of awareness as she calls out Alan Moore's version of Spawn's hell as the real one while this one is "insane", because a giant Elvis snorting human souls to get high is perfectly rational.

There's another half of this story on earth. One of the researchers at that institute that got dragged to hell in Violator/Badrock has collected all of the angel dust that is Celestine's remains and wants to resurrect her so she can unleash divine wrath on the world. There's a woman named Naaman who is trying to stop him as angels are trying to stop her from stopping him.

In hell, Celestine is brought before a a grey woman with bird legs who is the Devil, though Celestine says you're not Youngblood's boss Malebolgia and tries to fight. She's overwhelmed as the Devil explains gnosticism. Celestine may have been killing for "God" but it was still murder so she went to hell for punishment when she died.

Well, it's better than most things Extreme was publishing, I'll give it that. It is kind of warmed over 90's fantasy comic, though. There's a lot of people who were doing the same thing only better at the time. And the T&A in this comic is reaching pretty high levels even for an Extreme book.

There is a next issue of this one and it'll be pretty high on my reading list. That's because anything not from the usual two or three writers that Extreme uses is an improvement even when it's not very good.

Lady Supreme #1 - The house ads for this series hyped that it was by Terry Moore, "well known for his portrayal of women!" Seriously, that was the blurb. Moore is just a couple of months away from starting Strangers in Paradise so this might have been his foot in the door to get that started at Image.

A female executive who wears more belts and buckles than a Final Fantasy character is furious at her underlings for not taking advantage of a change in the bond market so she has him executed on the spot. Lady Supreme is in disguise with a blue suit and glasses and watches this happen. The evil exec next demands that a researcher who has had a breakthrough be brought before her by tomorrow morning. That's when she finally notices that there's someone in the room who shouldn't be there and Lady Supreme changes into her costume. Other people in the room try to shoot her, but Lady Supreme kills a few of them to make a point and threaten Lady Coffin, the evil exec. Lady Coffin doesn't give a poo poo so Lady Supreme smashes out through the glass ceiling which rains down shards that impale a few more people for good measure.

The comic is taking place on the planet that the big Supreme brawl was on, so I guess Lady Supreme hangs out there after that storyline ends. She's been there a month trying to help the planet, but not doing a great job of it. Lady Supreme spots a couple being accosted by some comicsgaters guys who have declared war on women. Lady Supreme starts by burning one of their arms off, melts a machete into another one's arm, and then finishes another off by flattening him against a brick wall. But in the fight, a ricocheting bullet hit the woman she was trying to save. Lady Supreme takes off rather than trying to help and runs into Glory who scolds her. And then Glory tells Lady Supreme that she's her mother.

This feels very half-assed. Here's our Lex Luthor, and she's a pretty shallow and boring version of that character. Lady Supreme is a violent psychopath who doesn't care about consequences so it feels like early issues of Supreme, though it's a different characterization than we had been seeing for her. There's some poking at metaphor and not really wanting to engage with that metaphor. It's more like putting something symbolic in regardless of it connects to anything else in the story; Lady Supreme smashing the glass ceiling doesn't mean much when she does it in a meeting of a nearly all female board meeting for the evil corporation.

Supreme #39 - Whoops! We've switched writers again. Now it's Tom and Mary Bierbaum taking over for Jim Valentino. However, Alan Moore comes on at issue #41 so it's not like there's going to be a long tenure here.

We left off with a pile of Supremes fighting Loki. On the Supreme side there's Old Supreme in Even Older Supreme's body, Even Older Supreme in Old Supreme's body, Lady Supreme, and Enigma. Even Older Supreme starts off by taking a swing and Loki just goes immaterial which sends him flying into a building. Lady Supreme says that he has all of his powers while she's just learning hers and Old Supreme doesn't have any, but this isn't true since the body Even Older Supreme is in has been reduced to leaping tall buildings in a single bound. Loki then teleports the cosmically powered Enigma away so he can't interfere. Lady Supreme, who still has one breast out five issues after she had her top shredded, does a psionic attack on Loki as the other Supremes use the classic method of hitting him harder.

Inside Loki's mind, Lady Supreme off-handedly mentions that Loki was the villain the Star Guard went back in time to kill and got crushed by. It wasn't a secret, it was just something she never bothered mentioning before. Loki starts fighting her in his mind so now there's two fronts.

Meanwhile at the hospital, Dr. D'Prave is helping the guy who got his legs blown off by Lady Supreme roughly two minutes ago (Loki revealed himself immediately after that, and we've had a few pages of continuous punching since then). For some reason, two minutes hasn't been enough time for this guy to get over it and he's become obsessed with torturing Lady Supreme. And in the future, the Enigma that was teleported and the Enigma from that period realize they have to erase the Star Guard's memories of their trip to the past.

And then I turn the page to find a naked Lady Supreme being attacked by tentacles which are restraining her as demon Loki licks her. Of course, the tentacles are covering up the unsuitable to network television portions of Lady Supreme's anatomy, but that kind of makes it worse. Loki is going to brainwash her into total submission for those of you playing fetish bingo.

The other Supremes and Enigma returned from the future solve this problem by punching Loki harder. Loki retaliates by killing Old Supreme. That makes Team Supreme retaliate by punching Loki harder. Finally Loki just runs away.

As they mourn Old Supreme, the body vanishes and it becomes extremely clear that they haven't been keeping track of who is who since nobody comments on which Supreme it was. And that's where it leaves off.

I had stuff to say about how boring issue long punching scenes are when there's no structure to fight. But that tentacle scene has put me off saying anything about this issue. Good riddance.

Youngblood #8 - I'm not sure what Youngblood is going to do now that they're not fronting the monthly crossover. Maybe they can fight some villains?

Die Hard as the leader of Youngblood has to do press conferences and as a robot man he's pretty bad at them. Rather than answer personal questions, he turns himself off on live television. Everyone on the team is pretty unhappy about this except Dredd who is pleased that his plans are coming to fruition. Now he's going to actively do things to disrupt Youngblood. Soon there's a raft of bad news about Youngblood. Vogue's cosmetics company is in financial trouble and we learn that apparently the SEC doesn't exist in the Extreme universe since Shaft thinks that a public company should be able to hide its financial details from investors. Shaft's girlfriend calls and I guess she's a DA because she wants him down at that office to hand over information on an investigation into a Youngblood member.

In New York, Vogue collapses into a sobbing heap at a board meeting for her cosmetics company because collapsing into a sobbing heap is literally all she does now. Badrock's girlfriend breaks up with him because he's so much older: he's seventeen though people think he's an adult and she's fifteen and I go what the loving gently caress. Riptide has a stalker, Knightsabre's had all the money stolen from his bank account, Die Hard realizes he's having memories stripped from him. Then Thor shows up and walks through the headquarters to the vault to take back mjollnir [sic]. Knightsabre is accused of assisting him but since he was with other Youngblood members at the time they're catching on that some is screwing with them.

I feel like this is the kind of thing that should have been building over time and then revealed to be connected but because Youngblood has been involved in constant crossovers for six months there's been no room to develop any story. So instead, there's just an issue about all of these things simultaneously in the space of a day. There isn't a lot of time to resolve all of their, either. The series ends at issue ten, so my guess is next issue we get a dramatic revelation, then the punch up with Dredd.

Glory #12 - There's a double sized issue of Glory this time for the first anniversary of the comic. I'm promised a new direction by the house ads though Glory's "direction" for the past six months has been "take part in a crossover". Just doing anything would be a new direction.

Glory, Vandal, and Rumble have gone to the premier of a barbarian movie which happens to include a depiction of Glory's dad Lord Silverfall as a chump villain. In the middle of the show, the projection booth bursts into flames and they have to save the viewers. The real Lord Silverfall is watching this while munching on popcorn and saying, "It's good to be the demon king." After clearing the theater, Vandal has a date with an actress, Rumble wants to get back to his scholarly pursuits, so Glory walks home alone. She's mugged by a pack of ratmen who are working for someone trying to overthrow Silverfall. Glory can beat them easily, but they pull out a very large laser cannon and shoot it at a passerby. Glory jumps in the way of the shot and collapses.

Glory wakes up in another land where she has been chained. This land is ruled by Lord Hades, the villain from the movie she had been watching, who has the standard villain plan of conquer everything. He doesn't know who Glory is, though, so when she speaks out he just has her thrown in a dungeon. The chains turn out to be magical so Glory can't break them, but there's a convenient scholar in the dungeon with her to provide exposition. Ishtar, who wore a version of Glory's outfit and looked a lot like her, was the queen and had a lover Nicodemus. Silverfall warned them that Hades was coming, but it didn't help as Ishtar was killed in battle. Nicodemus escaped to Earth somehow (he's about to be executed in the flashback, then the story is interrupted) and the ratmen were actually there to capture him and not Glory.

Glory realizes that since her costume is enchanted to appear and disappear, she can use the magic in the metal portions of it to cut her chains. Don't think too hard about it. She gets Ishtar's old costume to wear because the scholar had it in the cell with him. Glory interrupts the execution of Nicodemus and in a brief fight chops Hades's head off. That breaks the spell and Glory returns to the real world.

This wound up being a middle of the road adventure comic. It requires that the reader be engaged with the doomed love between Nicodemus and Ishtar since the movie that opens the comic is a version of their story, but we're not introduced to them as characters until over halfway through. Structurally it's completely unbalanced and the result is bland. There's some things in the comic that point to time travel or soul projection or reincarnation being involved, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense any way you look at it. There's nothing here.

MaxiMage #5 - This was the book that wasn't in my list of April books, though the indica has it in April. At least with this one when MaxiMage #6 came up in my list I could go, "Wait a second, I haven't read #5." For some other books, I've had to check to see if the comic in the house ad was ever published (they weren't).

MaxiMage has returned to Los Angeles where now that she's not involved in crossovers she wants to resume her life. Wandering the streets dressed in her normal clothes, she finds the convenience store she scammed in the first issue. The owner recognizes her and she pays him back by making twenty dollar bills drop out of the sky. She runs into her boyfriend who beat her when she didn't steal enough money from the convenience store and she wishes that he'd burst into flames if he didn't really love her. This doesn't reduce the boyfriend to a charred corpse, but it does burn all of his clothes and hair off.

She spots a robbery and effortlessly deals with the robbers by wishing their guns away. When the police arrive they mention how there's a bunch of homeless kids missing which gets the robbers to complain that she's not doing anything about that. MaxiMage uses her cosmic awareness and finds out about a giant telepathic worm roaming tunnels below the city. She sets off to defeat it and just as the fight is starting, MaxiMage's mentor arrives to say, "Hold up, this worm is harmless." He was the one who made all the people disappear. The mentor came back to LA to prepare to train MaxiMage more and was approached by some homeless people. They turned into gems when they touched him and can't be restored. Using magic drains people around them, so they have to live apart from humanity.

So there's a big problem here and it's obvious right off the bat: if people have to die so MaxiMage can use her powers, where are all the dead people from the previous issues of the series? Why weren't any of the Youngblood hanging around her drained? If she doesn't have any problem with killing her enemies, why isn't she draining them? It's an excuse for why MaxiMage can't just hang out in a civilian identity, but it just raises a ton of questions that the book isn't addressing.

MaxiMage #6 - Let's jump right into exhibit A for why this status quo concept doesn't work.

We kick of with MaxiMage complaining about not being able to be around other people and her mentor reminds her that they'll accidentally turn people into gems by being around them. But as he's delivering that lecture he sense someone in trouble and sends MaxiMage to go be around that person.

On the surface MaxiMage finds a prostitute being picked up by a guy and then she uses her cosmic awareness to give us the prostitute's tragic backstory of rape and abuse. Oh, and she's fourteen years old because apparently this is goddamned pedophile month at Extreme Studios. MaxiMage teleports the john to Antarctica and that's when her mentor appears before her to say, "This wasn't what I was talking about."

The situation he wants to deal with is a researcher holding a test tube of vaccine hostage as he's surrounded by the police with drawn guns. He discovered the vaccine too late to save his mother. And "vaccine" means "cure" in this world, apparently. MaxiMage tries to talk him down but he freaks out at the strange floating woman appearing from nowhere and throws the vial. MaxiMage catches it and finds out that it's actually anthrax he was tossing around. That makes the researcher flip out even harder and grab a gun to shoot the vial open. MaxiMage just sends him away.

The researcher turns up in a park where he's breaking down crying as the homeless people who were there before him try to comfort him. MaxiMage arrives and listens to him mourn his mother and she decides to bring her back for a talk. His mother appears in the form of an eight foot tall praying mantis. After they achieve emotional catharsis, MaxiMage tries to send Mantis Mom away and it doesn't work. So instead everyone goes and gets lunch.

MaxiMage thinks back to her troubled relationship with her mother and somehow the comic jumps to her approaching a flophouse with the whole group from the park. MaxiMage is looking for her mother there but there's a bunch of mobsters who have been keeping a chained up nu gene in the basement. They release the nu person and instead of attacking MaxiMage he kills all the mobsters. Finally, MaxiMage enters a room and finds her drunk mother.

You know, I was honestly expecting Mantis Mom to go someplace awful and instead they just made it goofy and cute. Unfortunately everything else in this story was weirdly sloppy and disconnected. It made me work to figure out how scenes fit together. This isn't a rich narrative tapestry so that wound up being pretty annoying.

Prophet #7 - No more goofy wrap around covers. That's a shame, I was liking those.

This issue opens on Prophet's ineffective arch-foe Omen. He's through with standing around doing nothing for three years straight. With Wells "dead" and the box that wanted empty, he's decided that it's time to take direct action.

Prophet is still arguing with Youngblood over the fate of the alien. He feels its wrong to enforce their system of beliefs on it such as "Maybe don't eat people". He also mad about Task insulting his religious beliefs which Prophet is trying to force on people. So he doesn't exactly have a philosophically consistent position. That's when D.O.C.C. calls to let Prophet know Wells is "dead" which makes Prophet smash up the furniture and storm out.

Meanwhile in Manhattan, Omen has enacted his masterstroke... of teleporting maybe a dozen cyborg guys into the middle of the city and opening fire. And in the sewers, the green slime alien is eating sewer workers who aren't even threatening it which makes it clear who was in the right on that argument. Youngblood arrives to fight Omen while Prophet is off moping. The alien which is no longer green slime and has become a biomechanical mess erupts from the sewer at the same spot. Prophet arrives in an inset panel to free Kirby from the front of Omen's throne (no idea where Omen is during this). Then a few double page splashes of a brawl occurs before Omen just leaves. I guess Omen's no longer a defense contractor building terminators for the US government after this. Youngblood weeps in the ruins of New York, its skyscrapers toppled by roughly ten guys with assault rifles.

Meanwhile up on D.O.C.C., Dr. Wells's body might be dead but his mind has been copied into the computer.

So that was a trainwreck. Let me trace the path of Phillip Omen for you. He started out as a frail guy who was building terminators. Then because before Omen first appeared they said that those terminators came from another dimension and another time, he was a disciple of Not Darkseid. Then he was a time traveler. Then he was multiple time travelers who kill each other. Then he just wanted all power sources that fall to earth. And now he's a tough guy in robo armor who invades New York for no good reason. And since those first few issues of the first Prophet series, he's just been hanging around going, "I'm going to get that Prophet!" and not really doing anything.

The fight scenes make no sense since the plan made no sense. They weren't even a threat in the comic book sense of "Oh, how are the heroes going to stop this?" because any one of these people should have been able to take out the whole group effortlessly because we've seen them do it plenty of times before. And yet somehow, the city of New York is in ruins after this fight. We never see any people doing any damage or big explosions or anything that would tilt all those skyscrapers, they just suddenly are that way.

Prophet/Chapel: Super Soldiers #1 - The Chapel series rolls right into this team-up book so I guess I have a little more Chapel to go. Not a whole lot, though.

A group of American soldiers surround a temple in Japan that's controlled by a cult that has nerve gas. In some magnificent writing, there's several caption boxes that tell me that they can hear one word being screamed over and over again from within the temple but the comic never says what that word is. All of the soldiers are wiped out by ninjas so Hillary forces Bill to send in Chapel and Prophet to clean up the mess. It's not explained why Prophet who was on the run from the US government is now working for the government.

Prophet and Chapel are the original odd couple. Prophet is serious and vaguely religious. Chapel is irreverent and cheerful. Together, they get surrounded by the soldiers and shoot their way out while bragging about how many bullets they have embedded in them. The send the body parts of the twenty-four soldiers they're surrounded by flying without any problems. The two emerge from the forest just outside the temple onto a snowy plain with the fortress visible on a mountaintop because who needs to be consistent with locations. Then ninjas drop out of helicopters onto them.

One thing I wasn't expecting was Chapel to reference Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner since he found hanging out with Prophet to be like the time he had a dead albatross around his neck. On the other hand, this comic is trying hard for a comedic tone and fails to land any of its "jokes". I still don't know why Prophet is there, this kind of mission isn't his thing. And the religious talk by writers who know absolutely nothing about religion gets pretty tiresome in these comics.

Asylum #4 - Asylum has turned into one of the worst books to read and I was so hopeful going in. "No story longer than eight pages?" I thought, "This will be a breeze!" I wasn't anticipating that they couldn't pace stories for eight pages and so it's like reading a bunch of full length comic stories with half the panels chopped out.

They went back to the flipbook concept with this issue and will keep it going for as long as I'm reading. So there's two comics on one side of the book and two comics on the other.

Christian - Christian is a woman who's in a lock up in LA. But she's not locked up in there with them, they're locked in with her. At least until her expensive lawyer gets her out and then she drives her Porsche to her next job, protecting the King of Pop on his world wide tour. Now I said, "Didn't this come out around the time of the Michael Jackson pedophilia trial?" And the cliffhanger for the issue is a Michael Jackson look alike surrounded by children. So we're definitely going there. If you're wondering whose brilliant idea this was, the credit for the plot goes to one Mr. Robert Liefeld.

Cybrid - The opening caption has Preacher John telling us that he's one of the good guys, and because these are comics where anything resembling subtlety or nuance cannot be found it's accurate. John saves Cybrid as he goes off the cliff. Meanwhile, evil corporation people are breaking into a lab and one of them tells the new woman about the time he had to kill his wife because she found out that the corporation was evil. Then there's an explosion killing some of the workers breaking in and wife killer tells the new woman that she's just as morally compromised by being in the area when some people died as he is. Cybrid flashes back to his love getting fridged and Preacher John explains that her death also provided him with motivation since he's a federal agent and she was his underling.

I really hope Cybrid ends soon because this is the most boring story in the bunch. Unfortunately, I think it has to have two more parts at least.

Beanworld - The beans throw spears at the alien that is holding Mr. Spook and hurt it. That's all that happens because this is told in four page increments.

Battlestar Galactica - A new story starts this time that takes place between the end of the television series and the start of the Maximum comics. A colonial shuttle is attacked by Cyclons and is rescued by the Serephs who cannot stop getting involved with these comics. Meanwhile on a desert planet that was ravaged by the Cylons, a boy finds a Cylon head and is accosted by a wizard. That boy's name is Adama.

This comic uses an airbrushed style that I think works for the 1970's aesthetic of Battlestar Galactica when it wouldn't for most other stories. Go ahead and paint those Cylon fighters on the side of my van! I don't know why there's a wizard unless they're going for an even more direct Star Wars knock-off.

Avengelyne #2 - I don't have any snazzy introduction for this one since at this point Avengelyne is just Avengelyne.

Okay so page one Avengelyne is weeping and begging god for forgiveness. I guess right after the end of the previous issue her and Kyle hosed and she's got some hang ups about it three weeks later. Now let me just turn the page as I'm sure there won't be anything weird there and--

Oh good god.

Avengelyne is extremely pregnant now. And as she's begging god for mercy for her baby, Peter comes in and says that being an unwed mother is the worst thing possible and god would have no mercy for her. The priests have decided to kick her out of the church for being pregnant. So there's a hell of a lot of "I've ruined everything by having sex!" going on in these initial pages and in a month full of pedophiles and tentacle sex, this might be the most offensive thing that Rob Liefeld published.

Sorry, wrote that too soon. God on panel explicitly says that what Avengelyne has done is unforgivable and sends an angel to kill her for having sex. Now we might have the most offensive thing Rob Liefeld has published. But to add a cherry on top, the name of the baby killing angel is Passover.

Kyle the bad guy and baby daddy gives Avengelyne some sympathy and tricks her into an even more wicked situation: cohabitation with a man she isn't married to. On the way back to Kyle's place, Passover attacks. A bunch of demons led by Behemoth arrive to defend Avengelyne. Passover burns Kyle's face off revealing him to be a demon but it's too late as Avengelyne is giving birth... by having her stomach split open and a pair of glowing eyes peek out.

I'm speechless after this one. It's like every time I thought it couldn't get any worse, they found a way to take it one more step. Liefeld has the story credit on this issue so I'm blaming him for all of the terrible ideas in it.


36 comics to go. If I move fast, I'll be finishing the reading project next Sunday.

Madkal posted:

Random stranger you have inspired me. I have recently been doing rereads of comics I haven't read in years and I'm now going to re read my complete (I think) collection of Curse of the Spawn. The first Spawn ongoing spinoff. I haven't read this comics in about 20 years (probably holding off thinking they would be worth something some day). Will it be good? Will it be bad? Will it be readable? I will find out.

I assure you that nothing you read will be awful as the comics I have read today.

Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Apr 11, 2020

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Wow! I had no idea Ellis ever worked for Extreme. I do have, for reasons that escape me, a complete run of DV8 (which for those that never read it, was sort of the anit-hero version of Gen 13) and I remember his work there being... fine? Gotta start somewhere.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I only know these old image comics through the reboots. Glory and Prophet were so good.

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
The Glory reboot is the most metal comic ever.

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