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The typing is actually relevant in standard due to Castles. e: and Nissa.
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ya you probably just play 4c krasis/uro for free now, its going to be very dumb. if there ever was a standard that needed a blood moon, its this one.
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Apr 9, 2020 22:59
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Mat Cauthon posted:That alternate art is beautiful but christ almighty do these lands suck by any reasonable metric. Speak on that
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Apr 9, 2020 23:02
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alt art on this set kicks rear end. should just be the standard art. dumb instincts on wotcs part
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Irony Be My Shield posted:This is a pretty substantial upgrade, and it's the first time you can grab a triland with a fetch in older formats. Murmuring Bosk  But for real, these are bonkers.
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Apr 9, 2020 23:04
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Tainen posted:Tricycle Lands I tried to tell you guys back in January but you were too busy arguing about how bad commander is  its bad
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kalvanoo posted:alt art on this set kicks rear end. should just be the standard art. dumb instincts on wotcs part 
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The tri-cycle lands are very good.
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Well, WotC figured out how to juice the sales of Ikoria for eternal formats for sure. Aggro will spend the next standard cycle in the wilderness as 4c good stuff piles get decided by time for the next 3 months. This is actually fun to me.
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AngryBooch posted:Well, WotC figured out how to juice the sales of Ikoria for eternal formats for sure. Aggro will spend the next standard cycle in the wilderness as 4c good stuff piles get decided by time for the next 3 months. This is actually fun to me. have you played standard for the last like year? mono red and aristocrats also look like they're going to remain key players in the meta from what we've seen so far.
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Mat Cauthon posted:That alternate art is beautiful but christ almighty do these lands suck by any reasonable metric. Lol what explain yourself immediately
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flatluigi posted:a discord i'm in i doubt the average modern deck would want more than 1 of these, and i can't imagine legacy would want any at all and i don't think an in--print rare land has cost $20 ever since mythics were invented
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Lone Goat posted:i doubt the average modern deck would want more than 1 of these, and i can't imagine legacy would want any at all Fabled passage?
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Look Around You posted:Fabled passage? egg on my face luckily i haven't played paper magic in years
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Apr 9, 2020 23:25
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kas posted:Lol what explain yourself immediately fadam posted:Speak on that I didn't realize they were fetchable on first glance, apologies.
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Sampatrick posted:have you played standard for the last like year? mono red is the worst most played deck at the moment imo. I hope I'm wrong and there are some really nice aggro decks that emerge! Abzan or Mardu humans would be sick
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Apr 9, 2020 23:38
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No nonbasic land should be rarer than Uncommon, change my mind.
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Apr 9, 2020 23:47
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Tainen posted:I tried to tell you guys back in January but you were too busy arguing about how bad commander is Nah man I saw your spoiler then and appreciated it. My friends and me were speculating for like an entire draft on whether or not they could make them typed. Cheers.
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AngryBooch posted:mono red is the worst most played deck at the moment imo. I hope I'm wrong and there are some really nice aggro decks that emerge! Abzan or Mardu humans would be sick My win percentage with red has steadily dropped from like 56% and is at like 53% now over my last 100 best of 1s on arena. Most of that is likely due to my 59% winrate vs the mirror which is by far my most played matchup. I'd agree it's not that good.
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Getting your deck data from Bo1 isn’t a great plan. The Bo1 meta is basically a different format from traditional ranked.
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Alris posted:No nonbasic land should be rarer than Uncommon, change my mind. I think lands being rare were one of the few things that WOTC openly admitted was rare to drive sales. I too believe that making lands rares and mythics was a mistake.
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Random booster packs are an inherently unethical way to sell a competitive card game
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Alris posted:No nonbasic land should be rarer than Uncommon, change my mind. Idk legendary lands like Eye of Ugin feel cool enough to be mythic but overall sure I agree This of course feeds into my desire that mythics be cool over neccesarily being pushed for constructed but that doesn't sell packs
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Toshimo posted:It goes right into my People Gettin' Mad About Commander Cards in Standard Sets EDH Deck. I get mad about them balancing commander cards around standard, Basalt Monolith did not need another infinite from the command zone, and all the rocks like Chrome Mox and Sol Ring didn't need to add even more, and it didn't need to, also, in addition, be able to dig for your Thassa's Oracle.
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Bust Rodd posted:Getting your deck data from Bo1 isn’t a great plan. The Bo1 meta is basically a different format from traditional ranked. Wow really no way
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Mono red is just in need of some innovation. I've been playing it with a coupe slaying fires and a couple Phoenix of ash and it's really helped shore up some of the weaknesses, slaying fire in particular has felt very very good at closing out games. Ember Hauler is another card that has seemed quite strong
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Apr 10, 2020 00:42
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Wow those tricycle lands are sweet. Great art on both normal and alt versions
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Hey Tainen do you know the restriction on the UW companion?
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Hey Tainen do you know the restriction on the UW companion? It should be, starting deck has at least 20 cards above the minimum size and it blinks non land permanents when it etbs
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hey guys, those tricycle lands will probably see a lot of play in standard because it's slow enough that ETBT isn't as big a drawback, but they won't see any eternal play because any color fetchland is already a 5-color land in eternal formats and it's very rare that you need three colors on a single land. entering tapped is too big a downside to make up for those things. anyways, peace out.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:hey guys, those tricycle lands will probably see a lot of play in standard because it's slow enough that ETBT isn't as big a drawback, but they won't see any eternal play because any color fetchland is already a 5-color land in eternal formats and it's very rare that you need three colors on a single land. entering tapped is too big a downside to make up for those things. anyways, peace out. i could see them being a one-of in 3-color decks just for the edge case where you'd be off a color if you fetched a dual in your opener, but this post is probably correct
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Tainen posted:last mythic Going back to this, the point about being super powerful isn't about Llanowar Elves poo poo, it's about Arcum's Astrolabe and Mox Amber and similar more powerful cards in older formats. Most of the eggs too. This seems a fairly easy include in certain Urza decks (though note it doesn't combine with Urza itself) and also 4c Kethis in Pioneer, among other decks, which are already quite powerful. I wouldn't be surprised if there are artifact combo decks built around this card either.
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Can Robbie Trevino just do all the land arts now thanks
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like, say you're playing abzan in modern, because you just stepped out of a time machine from 2014. your opening hand has black, green, and white cards. say it's a three lander. 1) are your lands three of the same shock? well then you're cut off from one of your colors, that kinda sucks. if one of them was a triland, you'd have all three colors, but you'd slow your development by a turn, which also sucks. 2) are your lands three shocks, not all the same? congrats, you have all three of your colors, and they all enter untapped if necessary. 3) is any of your lands a fetch? congratulations, you have all three of your colors, and they all enter untapped if necessary.
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whydirt posted:Random booster packs are an inherently unethical way to sell a competitive card game But it sure makes money
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Tainen posted:It should be, starting deck has at least 20 cards above the minimum size and it blinks non land permanents when it etbs Hmm that's a pretty rough restriction. Thanks though!
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kalvanoo posted:alt art on this set kicks rear end. should just be the standard art. dumb instincts on wotcs part dumb instinct or just wotc doing what it does best? their instinct wasn't to add more cool art to sets when they finally realized people really liked artstyles that veered outside their norm. their instinct was to find a way of monetizing it.
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On paper these tri-lands seem really good, but is any format with fetches actually going to bother playing these? Mana is already basically perfect in Modern. For commander they are great, though.
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Paul Zuvella posted:On paper these tri-lands seem really good, but is any format with fetches actually going to bother playing these? Mana is already basically perfect in Modern. I think that’s the kind of thing you can’t properly evaluate without hundreds or thousands of games, even if our intuitions lead us to one conclusion.
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Colours can still get a little sketchy if you're playing spells with high colour requirements, I could see one copy sneaking in that you grab the first time you'd otherwise get a tapped shockland. I doubt you'd ever play more than one.
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