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Yeah it doesn't work super well if you try to mix the two. Species as class works OK if you lean hard into the food chain relationships as an analogy for exploitation but if you break those up it just gets weird and turns into race science. It's a common problem with anthro animal media cos people don't think about it much and often want to just include interesting characters that result in hosed up implications elsewhere. I did like the characterisation of the good guys as being actually fairly demilitarized and focused on just existing while the bad guys are usually the ones doing big wars and that, at least.
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/IainDale/status/1248345191070797834?s=19 can't fool me, gonzo, this 'iain dale' persona isn't a real human
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Boris is on the general ward. It's two rows of beds either side of a long room and it's nighttime. Boris sits up and listens to the moaning and pain of the other patients. He takes a sip of spirits and starts reciting The Road to Mandalay. For a while it's just him, doing the colonialism. A patient joins in. Then several more. Now it's a song somehow. Union Jacks unfurl above the beds. Nurses glide past on those IV carts that they have, removing oxygen masks as patients rise to join the singing. There's a climax and the curtains all fling open: dawn has broken. Outside is the sound of distant millions banging pots and pans. Everyone looks to Boris who says "Right then. Back to work everyone!" Britain is open for business.
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Vitamin P posted:I think chicks like it because they can imagine waving a wand and being a warrior hero tbh. Have you ever stopped for a second and considered that you are posting like an incel who happens to want wealth redistribution. Every time you post in this thread it's another situation where you assert your right to be condescending but fall back on "but I believe what you believe" as some sort of defence. Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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domhal posted:Boris is on the general ward. It's two rows of beds either side of a long room and it's nighttime. Boris sits up and listens to the moaning and pain of the other patients. He takes a sip of spirits and starts reciting The Road to Mandalay. For a while it's just him, doing the colonialism. A patient joins in. Then several more. Now it's a song somehow. Union Jacks unfurl above the beds. Nurses glide past on those IV carts that they have, removing oxygen masks as patients rise to join the singing. There's a climax and the curtains all fling open: dawn has broken. Outside is the sound of distant millions banging pots and pans. Everyone looks to Boris who says "Right then. Back to work everyone!" Britain is open for business. He's reading "Down with the NHS how we can get turmps healthcare in 1 year or less" - Nigel Farage next to patients dying in hallways from lack of funding
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Camrath posted:Thing and by then thoroughly embarrassed by the poo poo I used to read (Jennings books were my jam as a kid), so I turned against it by default. Fossilised fish-hooks, I can't believe you'd admit to that! OwlFancier posted:I have vague memories of reading a bunch of famous five stuff when I was very young but I can't remember any of the content. I did read a lot of Redwall too and that was a good series. Also has communist shrews. Best thing about Redwall was the food porn imo RockyB posted:I still have a soft spot for Swallows and Amazons. Ooh yes my dad made me read Swallows and Amazons as a kid and I devoured the entire series. Would still read today. I guess I just read whatever came within reach as a kid. Hardy Boys (my English teacher used to scowl when he caught me with this trash instead of Thomas Hardy). Duncton Wood! Amazing stuff. E: my mum gave me a copy of Clan of the Cave Bear by Jean Auel. I found the sequels later in my grandmother's bookshelf and holy poo poo they're basically porn after a point. Maugrim fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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He also wrote a Redwall cookbook as it happens! It's oriented more towards kids obviously but I'm still kind of tempted to buy a copy sometime.
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bionic vapour boy posted:He also wrote a Redwall cookbook as it happens! It's oriented more towards kids obviously but I'm still kind of tempted to buy a copy sometime. Turns out candied chestnuts are indeed v good
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:He's reading "Down with the NHS how we can get turmps healthcare in 1 year or less" - Nigel Farage next to patients dying in hallways from lack of funding
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TACD posted:Boris is absolutely going to come out of hospital with lots of "first-hand experience" and ideas of how to cut spending even more. Anything he's seen that wasn't 100% utilised for round-the-clock life-saving care is expendable. I had 3 immigrants changing my bed pan. I only need 1 nurse to change my bed pan folks
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Corbyn failed at the ballot box, but the purpose of politics isn't to win elections, it's to win policies. I think Corbynism had plenty of success there - the current Tory government is cribbing from his manifesto. It took a world-halting epidemic, yes, but I wonder how the government's response and its judgement in the media would have looked without 5 years of serious mainstream conversations about socialism. Even in the election the Tories were making manifesto promises that were clear responses to Labour policy. Likewise Starmer's platform surely wouldn't be to the left of Milliband's without the Corbynist victories within the Labour Party, and Momentum wouldn't exist as a pressure group to try and keep things that way. Looking at Corbyn's time as an unmitigated failure because of election defeats is to miss the point. Obviously a Labour government would have been a bigger victory because it would have seen more of the good stuff happen, but I don't think we should underestimate the impact of Corbyn's time as leader in changing the politics of the country. If you want an example of another electoral failure that was entirely successful at a political project, UKIP and Farage are a good case study.
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It is at least implied in the article that the work is both voluntary and paid. Removing one or both of those is presumably the next step and this is just testing the waters.
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i'm not sure i live near anything that requires fruit/veg pickers so i'm curious how they expect me to do this
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Stanley Johnson told the BBC's Today: "He took one for the team and we've got to make sure we play properly now."
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Are they at least going to be getting paid for doing so, or is it just going to be us getting rounded up and sent to work on a state approved farm?
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big scary monsters posted:Corbyn failed at the ballot box, but the purpose of politics isn't to win elections, it's to win policies. I think Corbynism had plenty of success there - the current Tory government is cribbing from his manifesto. It took a world-halting epidemic, yes, but I wonder how the government's response and its judgement in the media would have looked without 5 years of serious mainstream conversations about socialism. Even in the election the Tories were making manifesto promises that were clear responses to Labour policy. Likewise Starmer's platform surely wouldn't be to the left of Milliband's without the Corbynist victories within the Labour Party, and Momentum wouldn't exist as a pressure group to try and keep things that way. bornbytheriver posted:Stanley Johnson told the BBC's Today: "He took one for the team and we've got to make sure we play properly now."
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Jose posted:i'm not sure i live near anything that requires fruit/veg pickers so i'm curious how they expect me to do this I'm sure they'll organise bus services. Just get lots of random people herded together and send them off into the fields during the lockdown. Afterwards we can get back to kicking out all those undesirables doing all these jobs we don't want doing. I've got to say if you think through the implication of Tory immigration policy, we want British people to do poo poo jobs for crap pay and we'll import educated individuals to take the highly qualified middle class jobs. It's basically the British Imperial staffing policy only the British are played by the upper classes and the natives are played by the British. The imported professional managers are probably played by the same Indians and East Asians with a smattering of Eastern Europeans. And that poo poo is actually popular 
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Josef bugman posted:Are they at least going to be getting paid for doing so, or is it just going to be us getting rounded up and sent to work on a state approved farm? I mean it’s not as good as a collective farm but hey ho
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So is packing them off to farms (on the transport that will presumably be organised by the government because the farms aren't in cities and young people live more in cities than in rural areas where the farms are) how the government ensures they all get coronavirus so they can harvest plasma from the young people after they've had it?
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Now we can await the uptick in a+e admissions for "wasn't trained beyond 'go pick berries and don't fall over' went to pick berries, fell over, snapped their ankle". I mean labour issues in agriculture was going to be a serious issue this year even without 'rona, but it's going to be on overdrive now. But fear not, kier has a plan in association with the daily mirror to give everyone involved a commemorative plate where the ghost of diana is looking kindly down from heaven on an nhs worker and a waste operative
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It will be about the same time the first nurse gets murdered by a vigilante mob for heading to work in uniform, and spreading the rona by doing so.
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MrNemo posted:And that poo poo is actually popular It's only popular because everyone considers themselves indispensible.
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From the GBS comics edit thread
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              Oh and have some pictures from the farm I suppose Also if you are of a praying sort then ask for some rain because otherwise I'm going to have to drag water out there because there's been gently caress all decent rainfall in weeks
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DesperateDan posted:Now we can await the uptick in a+e admissions for "wasn't trained beyond 'go pick berries and don't fall over' went to pick berries, fell over, snapped their ankle". I would expect class consciousness and labour militancy in a bunch of 18-21 year olds whose whole future is suddenly in peril mixing with older people suddenly threatened with destitution despite years of professional work and all forced to physical labour in the hot sun to be loving skyrocketing so just loving let the Labour party catch up if it wants to be relevant and put your efforts into building power in the working class. There's going to be a lot of 18-19 year olds who have been on climate strikes regularly who are now having to operate in these conditions, all they need is organising again.
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Brit society is so atomised right now that I can imagine that clumping a bunch of young radicals together at this moment might be a bit unwise for the ruling class
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:As a kid I used to love the school adventure stories - Mallory Towers - how I longed for a chocolate brown school tunic with an orange belt - with the pranks and discovering the headmistress was actually the male head of a crime gang (as in the 1960s St Trinians films, not the more recent travesties), or gangs of smugglers were using the school to store stolen barrels of whisky or whatever. When my school friends were into reading Jackie magazine, I preferred June & School Friend with The Four Marys etc. Just as an FYI, I think the BBC have adapted this. Its on CBBC on the iPlayer. I know because my partner is watching it.
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Cerv posted:coop this morning had a sign by the till asking “please consider if your lottery ticket / scratch card is really an essential purchase” My local coop will only sell lucky dip lottery tickets now. I think as a knock on effect, there maybe a huge shortfall in funding to the arts, culture and museums sector as lottery revenues plummet.
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