Camrath posted:

Which actually raises a completely unrelated point in my mind- as mentioned, my friend transitioned (though after we had parted ways as friends and socially- I’ve never met her under her current identity). When referring to someone’s pre-transition life, is it correct to use their identity and pronouns as they presented at the time, or to refer to them as their present gender retroactively? In this case I’m talking about someone who I only knew as a curly haired prepubescent boy, so though I consciously know that they’ve transitioned I’ve never met them since.

Jose posted:

there we go

https://twitter.com/jessbrammar/status/1248496829768974336

Tesla was right posted:

I'm not trans so I correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, it's most helpful to think of "transitioning" as "coming out as trans". She was a girl who was expected to dress and behave like a boy because of a decision someone else made.
Also, it's best not to use someone's pre-transition name unless they give permission.

I don't know how to answer the question of how to deal with the situation of "do you know so-and-so", for when someone may have met them pre-transition, though.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I have a relative who 'transitioned' - actually was born intersex - brought up as a girl and transitioned about 15-20 years ago when he was about 30.

It was quite hard at first to remember to use his post-transition name when we had known him by a different name for many years previously and still very occasionally the old name slips out when talking about earlier times (which is rare these days).

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I think you could get away with smoking as your once daily government authorised exercise.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Surely we've come full circle on the flat screen TVs by now and we've got unemployed council estate scroungers in track suits sniffing haughtily and saying I don't even own a TV actually.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Raises the heart rate, gets you breathing more heavily, of course it's exercise.

Barry Foster posted:

I just signed up for that picking thing - I'm unemployed, fit and strong, much prefer manual labour than calling grannies or whatever, and really need to do something helpful - but I don't drive and live in the centre of Exeter, so I'm holding out hope that they have pickup trucks they just roll around in and pick up workers with like in america lol

I wanted to do stuff more locally but pretty much everything except aforementioned 'talk to grannies' roles is strictly car only

Guavanaut posted:

I'm surprised that there haven't been a bunch of hipsters claiming the tube TVs somehow capture the visual effect better.

That's even true in some very edge cases, the shittiness of composite video and NTSC artifacts could be used to get some interesting effects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niKblgZupOc&t=404s

Don't forget the heart attack risk in the elderly.

Answers Me posted:

Here's the promised 'balanced' cabinet:

https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1248597784229445633?s=20

Josef bugman posted:

You are getting paid for it, right?

Camrath posted:

Which actually raises a completely unrelated point in my mind- as mentioned, my friend transitioned (though after we had parted ways as friends and socially- I’ve never met her under her current identity). When referring to someone’s pre-transition life, is it correct to use their identity and pronouns as they presented at the time, or to refer to them as their present gender retroactively? In this case I’m talking about someone who I only knew as a curly haired prepubescent boy, so though I consciously know that they’ve transitioned I’ve never met them since.

Tesla was right posted:

I'm not trans so I correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, it's most helpful to think of "transitioning" as "coming out as trans". She was a girl who was expected to dress and behave like a boy because of a decision someone else made.
Also, it's best not to use someone's pre-transition name unless they give permission.

I don't know how to answer the question of how to deal with the situation of "do you know so-and-so", for when someone may have met them pre-transition, though.

Barry Foster posted:

apparently it's 'at least minimum wage', but I don't care except insofar as I'll never work for free (for the sake of my coworkers). My partner is the breadwinner in our relationship, I've kind of given up on life and the world so I've not had a consistent job for a long time

Do you mean 'get paid = get train' or whatever, though? 'cause I don't think that'll help me get to farms out in the sticks

namesake posted:

Read some Grapes of Wrath and then organise your co-workers.

Pesky Splinter posted:

Going through some old things of my grandparents; photos and general ancient unused, unsent cards and the like - most accidentally shocking find was find a load of christmas stamps from the charity Scope...only it's going by it's former name.

Gotta say it's jarring to see jolly cartoon angels and baby Jesus saying "Help the [slur]"

Josef bugman posted:

I just feel bad that I can't have restaurant food atm. I generally leave a bit aside each month for one per week, just to have that little bit of food I like without having to cook.

Now I don't feel able to because the only places that are open clearly don't care about their workers.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Same is true for a number of 'slur' words such as cretin, moron, imbecile. They started off as terms for psychiatric or medical disorders.

Scope only changed to that name around mid 90s so for oldies like me, more or less 'yesterday'.

quote:

Could I ask everyone for some help at this very difficult time....

If you see a hearse, could you stop, stand for a moment as it passes, perhaps take off your cap, and bow your head?

As funeral directors we are finding it very hard to give our families the personal service we pride ourselves on with all the restrictions we have to abide by.
Some of our families are still wanting the funeral cortège to leave from the families home, so we are also asking neighbours of the deceased to come to their front doors and pay their respects as the hearse drives past.
Sometimes it’s just the little things that make all the difference and in these hard times every little thing helps.

It would mean the world to families in a time of sadness.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Same is true for a number of 'slur' words such as cretin, moron, imbecile. They started off as terms for psychiatric or medical disorders.

Scope only changed to that name around mid 90s so for oldies like me, more or less 'yesterday'.

Pesky Splinter posted:

Going through some old things of my grandparents; photos and general ancient unused, unsent cards and the like - most accidentally shocking find was find a load of christmas stamps from the charity Scope...only it's going by it's former name.

Gotta say it's jarring to see jolly cartoon angels and baby Jesus saying "Help the [slur]"

Flipswitch posted:

Ya should all buy the ukmt fudge BTW it is excellent

Failed Imagineer posted:

E:^^^^^ do Brits not stop and take off any hats, when a hearse drives by? In Ireland you'd be a wrongun if you didn't do that, I even feel like a scrub not blessing myself even though Ive been an atheist since I was 11

Pesky Splinter posted:

I still have to remind myself that the 90s and Y2K was literally a generation ago, and not like, last year.

Pesky Splinter posted:

Oh yeah, it's the Euphemism Treadmill at work. It was just kind of a "Oh Christmas stamps that's - wait - Bwhaaa!-!

I still have to remind myself that the 90s and Y2K was literally a generation ago, and not like, last year.

Failed Imagineer posted:

E:^^^^^ do Brits not stop and take off any hats, when a hearse drives by? In Ireland you'd be a wrongun if you didn't do that, I even feel like a scrub not blessing myself even though Ive been an atheist since I was 11

Pesky Splinter posted:

Going through some old things of my grandparents; photos and general ancient unused, unsent cards and the like - most accidentally shocking find was find a load of christmas stamps from the charity Scope...only it's going by it's former name.

Gotta say it's jarring to see jolly cartoon angels and baby Jesus saying "Help the [slur]"

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Friend of a friend who is an undertaker request:



https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1395403117334533&id=100005945749207

Bobstar posted:

My theory for my own confusion is a numerical one - the 90s were well defined numbers, but now my brain keeps telling me it's "about the year 2000". Which is millennium terms is pretty much true, in century terms is kind of not really, and in decade terms hasn't been true for like 16 years.

But the roundness of the number just broke something in my brain, and now I can't compute how someone born in the early 1940s isn't "about 60".

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I was born in 1960 and I'm very 'about 60' before the end of April in fact. How to celebrate in lockdown?
My 50th took place when that dratted volcano stopped northern Europe so half my friends were stuck in the wrong country (it being school holidays).

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I was born in 1960 and I'm very 'about 60' before the end of April in fact. How to celebrate in lockdown?
My 50th took place when that dratted volcano stopped northern Europe so half my friends were stuck in the wrong country (it being school holidays).

happyhippy posted:

I think Grange Hill, or maybe another kids show, had used the now slur term in an innocent way, and that is how it spread around as an insult to kids.

happyhippy posted:

So you are saying, for humanity's sake, you need to stop having birthdays?

Flipswitch posted:

Ya should all buy the ukmt fudge BTW it is excellent

jaete posted:

Failed Imagineer posted:

E:^^^^^ do Brits not stop and take off any hats, when a hearse drives by? In Ireland you'd be a wrongun if you didn't do that, I even feel like a scrub not blessing myself even though Ive been an atheist since I was 11

Necrothatcher posted:

It sucks that it's almost certain that the casual terms we use today will probably be slurs in 50 years. I wouldn't be surprised to see "disabled" become an old-fashioned and offensive term.

Guavanaut posted:

It's interesting how derogatory it's seen in the UK, compared with everywhere else. I blame Blue Peter.

Also given it's still present in most of the medical literature, it's interesting that Scope changed their whole brand and philosophy and, well, scope rather than just going by an abbreviated name like say the UNCF and NAACP do, both of which contain terms that have fallen off of the treadmill.