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Red Oktober posted:I feel that rebranding themselves to the 'SS' would have created more problems than it solved. 116 is Alien Ant Farm in the secret nazi code.
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Is the taking the hat off thing some hangover from like suits of armour or something? I mean otherwise why does it matter if a dead body sees me with a hat on?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Is the taking the hat off thing some hangover from like suits of armour or something? I mean otherwise why does it matter if a dead body sees me with a hat on? like most things around funerals it’s not for the benefit of the deceased, it’s for the bereaved. you’re showing a mark of respect. so making a deliberate point to not do it has no purpose other than disrespect. maybe it is a pointless tradition, but that’s not a hill worth dying on.
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Guavanaut posted:It was Blue Peter. I try to describe everyone as "having _____" or that they are someone "with ______". The other counter example would be Deaf people, because the Deaf community gets really irate if you describe them as having deafness or having a hearing impairment. Unless they're deaf, but not Deaf, in which case they probably don't care one way or the other.
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about whether it's autistics, autistic people, people with autism, or people who have autism.
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Cerv posted:like most things around funerals it’s not for the benefit of the deceased, it’s for the bereaved. you’re showing a mark of respect. so making a deliberate point to not do it has no purpose other than disrespect. maybe it is a pointless tradition, but that’s not a hill worth dying on. Yes. Obviously. But why the hat? I was wondering if it was like taking your helm off to show who you are and that your not about to stay a fight or whatever as the mark of respect.
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drat I've been clapping every time a hearse goes past, why is everything so complicated
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Guavanaut posted:It was Blue Peter. Ah Blue Peter. That show that confused the poo poo out of every NI kid. Where you always wondered where the gently caress you get sticky back plastic near you (no newsagents or such near me had any), why England had an abundance of it, and why every November 5th they would dress up a week after you did at Halloween and cart a shittily looking man in a wheelbarrow demanding money.
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happyhippy posted:Ah Blue Peter. But you weren't meant to. They always said "you should use an oxyacetylene welding torch for this, but we're using double sided sticky tape for speed".
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happyhippy posted:Ah Blue Peter. Don't forget about pipe cleaners. The ultimate macgubbin for making home crafted devices or people. But something that no store stocked since the 1970's.
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Guavanaut posted:It was Blue Peter. saying i'm a hemophiliac to try and win a fight though.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc61cfiodYw
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elbkaida posted:Some places are family run so might not be as much of an issue? Because I am trying to leave the house as little as possible and all the family run places near me are closed. I haven't gone further than 2 streets from my house in a little under 3 weeks now.
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Josef bugman posted:Because I am trying to leave the house as little as possible and all the family run places near me are closed. Get a takeaway?
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The things I could have made as a child if I'd ever had sticky back plastic...
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kingturnip posted:I try to describe everyone as "having _____" or that they are someone "with ______". So with disorders and conditions, it's considered best practice to put the person first, like person with epilepsy rather than epileptic person. So people who see autism as that (usually parents of children with autism), they push for that. But for people who see it as an integral part of their identity rather than a 'disorder', i.e. that autistic and allistic brains just see the world in different ways, they'd say "you wouldn't say person with Catholicism*, you'd say Catholic person" and push for the identifier. And then everyone talks past each other forever, so it's a debate that will keep coming up. *That's a pretty amusing way to describe the overtly religious though. happyhippy posted:Ah Blue Peter.
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Lol the bbc live ticker thing is now saying people in cornwall are being encouraged to report each other.
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Josef bugman posted:Because I am trying to leave the house as little as possible and all the family run places near me are closed. I'd say that's true round my way too. Almost every family run business - regardless of whether it is allowed to be open or not - has closed because almost all of the families concerned have a very vulnerable person in them.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Lol the bbc live ticker thing is now saying people in cornwall are being encouraged to report each other. Encouraged to report what? That they are Cornish? "I think my neighbour is a person from Cornwall. Lock them up, before they rat me out for also being Cornish." Meanwhile over in ISF. https://twitter.com/iresimpsonsfans/status/1248610750580453377
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Yes. Obviously. But why the hat? I was wondering if it was like taking your helm off to show who you are and that your not about to stay a fight or whatever as the mark of respect. It's only in the last 40 - 50 years that most people haven't worn hats or scarves outside, and taking hat off was considered a mark of respect for centuries (I don't know the origin of that, but probably in the same sort of way that if a man and woman are walking together down a pavement, the man should walk on the outside so his sword arm is free to defend the lady - obviously assumes right handedness).
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Do irish simpsons fans ever talk about the simpsons?
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I loving knew we'd gently caress this up too Why can't we do anything right? Why do we have to be either 'lol nothing matters laissez-faire herd immunity' or loving stasi-calling police state? we are such utter garbage people
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Barry Foster posted:I loving knew we'd gently caress this up too Like a decent response from day 1 would have meant that we didn't need this bullshit.
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took the babby out for the daily walk, loads of people sunbathing and drinking in the parks today with music and bbqs all going on.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Yes. Obviously. But why the hat? I was wondering if it was like taking your helm off to show who you are and that your not about to stay a fight or whatever as the mark of respect. I'm not sure if it's the origin of it, but in England taking your hat off when you entered church was supposedly you showing that you weren't hiding from God, compared to the other Abrahammic religions (and indeed many Christian sects) that actually want you to wear a hat, presumably because God is sick of looking at bald spots. Conversely, in the English courts, the judge would put a black cloth over the top of his head when sentencing someone to death so God couldn't see him passing the sentence (power over life and death of course being God's thing), which is a bit of theological sleight-of-hand that would have Rabbis howling. I think the use outside of church is just a general, very visible, way of showing respect - see also hat tipping as a general hello/goodbye. I don't *think* it's a military thing because the military don't generally take their hats off to show respect - a salute or bow/nod/curtsy is more traditional, but I'm sure there's some tradition where the 9th Wessex Peculiars wear their hats on their knees on St. Swithins Day or something.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:It's only in the last 40 - 50 years that most people haven't worn hats or scarves outside, and taking hat off was considered a mark of respect for centuries (I don't know the origin of that, but probably in the same sort of way that if a man and woman are walking together down a pavement, the man should walk on the outside so his sword arm is free to defend the lady - obviously assumes right handedness). There's a rather more prosaic and practical reason for that - the man stands at the kerb side so if any passing traffic sprays up horse poo poo it hits him, not her. Now that's possibly/probably just as apocryphal as the sword thing, but I reckon horse poo poo was a lot more common than having a sword fight in most places in the world.
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Barry Foster posted:I loving knew we'd gently caress this up too I mean we're not. We're conditioned as a society to be selfish and antisocial by successive right wing governments and their media lackeys, and that's a problem.This is just how it manifests now.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:It's only in the last 40 - 50 years that most people haven't worn hats or scarves outside, and taking hat off was considered a mark of respect for centuries (I don't know the origin of that, but probably in the same sort of way that if a man and woman are walking together down a pavement, the man should walk on the outside so his sword arm is free to defend the lady - obviously assumes right handedness). Quakers also used to reject the "hat honour", especially around bishops. Wearing a big hat while preaching without licence and refusing to remove it for the bishops was a sign of bowing to no earthly Episcopal authority.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I'm not sure if it's the origin of it, but in England taking your hat off when you entered church was supposedly you showing that you weren't hiding from God, compared to the other Abrahammic religions (and indeed many Christian sects) that actually want you to wear a hat, presumably because God is sick of looking at bald spots. Unless the hat is tin foil it's weird that god can see through the roof of the church but not your hat.
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OwlFancier posted:Unless the hat is tin foil it's weird that god can see through the roof of the church but not your hat.
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if he's in the church rather than the holy spy satellite then he can still see you regardless of the hat!
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Isomermaid posted:I mean we're not. In an unusual twist the press are reporting how bad hundreds of reported deaths a day are by government inaction but even more surprisingly is it's foreigners dying. It's still okay to happen here.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:There's a rather more prosaic and practical reason for that - the man stands at the kerb side so if any passing traffic sprays up horse poo poo it hits him, not her. Now that's possibly/probably just as apocryphal as the sword thing, but I reckon horse poo poo was a lot more common than having a sword fight in most places in the world. And poo poo flung from above. Remember people would throw their contents of the potty's out the window into the street.
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OwlFancier posted:if he's in the church rather than the holy spy satellite then he can still see you regardless of the hat!
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Which only invites the possibility of constructing some kind of hat based giant mecha so that we can attack heaven and claim it for the living.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:There's a rather more prosaic and practical reason for that - the man stands at the kerb side so if any passing traffic sprays up horse poo poo it hits him, not her. Now that's possibly/probably just as apocryphal as the sword thing, but I reckon horse poo poo was a lot more common than having a sword fight in most places in the world. That always felt much more likely to me - the right hand on the outside only works if you have the road on your right anyway - walking up with the road on your left puts your right hand in between.
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^^^ the sims killer strikes again!Barry Foster posted:I loving knew we'd gently caress this up too it's both! we get the herd immunity from the government being all "do whatever it's coo" for weeks before half-arsing a lockdown and we get the narcs because the government's encouraging everyone to blame each other for the results I mean hell it worked for brexit, why not now baka kaba fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I don't *think* it's a military thing because the military don't generally take their hats off to show respect - a salute or bow/nod/curtsy is more traditional, but I'm sure there's some tradition where the 9th Wessex Peculiars wear their hats on their knees on St. Swithins Day or something. It used to be the done thing because it's just what one did in the presence of one's betters; there are books of standing orders from about the 18th century where they start to make a point of saying "the men shall not take off their hats in the presence of an officer, it is a sufficient compliment for them to put their hands up and bow"; then natural military osmosis turned vague forelock or brim-tugging into the modern salute, which in modern armies is only given if hats are being worn.
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