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So after plunking the money down in... January was it? Feels like a lifetime ago... the Wavestate arrived in the mail today. I might be at the mercy of presets for the foreseeable future but they are pretty digital pads for sure. Even just paging through them gave a couple cool ideas, but I'll have to dig more once I'm done the work from home stuff today. A couple points so far: 1) If there was any synth by them that could use an actual hard copy manual, this would be one. 2) Their shift/function key is in a really dumb place. Like seriously, separate that from the mess of config buttons. 3) I guess if there's any good time to try and learn a synth, now would be it.
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ewe2 posted:Thanks for that, I came to similar conclusions. I really want the MODX for the FM synth and the new pattern sequencer and many other goodies (really, the mind boggles with that thing and its the simple version of the MONTAGE jfc) and I can pick up a P-125 for 88key practice at a vastly cheaper outlay than the Juno or MX, and it has just enough usability to record audio/MIDI performances to a computer which is the most I care about for that kind of thing. Listen to LaserJet 4P  I have a Montage, and I absolutely can't see my life without one. But the MODX is a God drat monster in its own right. Go MODX if you don't want to shell out for a Montage.
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stillvisions posted:
Similarly, I’m not a fan of having enter and cancel on the same button. Also, the double-tap for shift function feature would be great if it actually worked for everything. The Wavestate does some pretty unique stuff, but it can be infuriating to use.
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Apr 7, 2020 23:11
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For the worker's party bonerjam. Not sure where to take it from here, so this might be the end product. https://soundcloud.com/nateshap/capitalism-is-a-ok-yall
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Apr 8, 2020 05:05
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Yeah. Drop the volume on the eat the rich sample so it isn't twice as loud as everything else, stick a fork in it and call it done.
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Apr 8, 2020 06:44
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If your tracks are done, render them to a .wav or a .flac or some sort of LOSSLESS format. Zip them up with a text file, how you want to be credited, name of the song, any track notes or thank yous or whatever, them upload the zip to mediafire or dropbox or something. If you have problems figuring any of that out, ask.
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Apr 8, 2020 06:47
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Dick, you have an e-mail address? I want to buy you a plat cert.
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Absolutely no point. The Bernie or Bust toxx spells the end of this account. If you need to send private messages to Mr. Dick, soundlcloud messages are fine.
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Mr. Dick posted:Absolutely no point. The Bernie or Bust toxx spells the end of this account. They're just bans, right? You can unban yourself for ten bucks and then use the cert to get plat (or get it back, whichever)
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ill cover your re-reg+extras when the time comes, or can cert you now, thanks for putting this together and thanks to lowtax for keeping this dumb forum open so long http://www.mediafire.com/file/r7b3sx3n11o7wvf/EBB_Bonerjam_April_2020.rar/file
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EBB posted:Ableton is on sale This usually signals a new version. I wonder if a Push 3 is coming as well?
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magiccarpet posted:This usually signals a new version. I wonder if a Push 3 is coming as well? I think the current discount is part of a "stay home, make music" push like a lot of other companies are doing. They've extended the time of the Live Suite trial to 90 days also, and are giving away their ebook and some other stuff: https://www.ableton.com/en/blog/ideas-offers-making-music-home/ I had been hoping they might announce something about a Push 3 at Loop this month, but since that's cancelled, I dunno. That website does indicate they'll be doing live streams and posting info on April 24-26, so maybe there will be something then? Fingers crossed.
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I'm curious what everyone would love to see in the Push3. The #1 thing on my list is better support for the Arrangement view. I primarily use the Push2 in session mode and tend to move to the computer keyboard when arranging. Do you think they will stick with the Push just being a controller or are they going to add a bunch of new features like putting an audio interface on it and a couple inputs a la the Akai Force.
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I upgraded from Lite to Suite in March, figuring I was getting locked down and was going to be making lots of beeps. I emailed Ableton last night and they refunded me $95, which is pretty awesome if you ask me.
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McCoy Pauley posted:I think the current discount is part of a "stay home, make music" push like a lot of other companies are doing. They've extended the time of the Live Suite trial to 90 days also, and are giving away their ebook and some other stuff: Yup. Sonible & Focusrite's Balancer Plugin is free. https://www.sonible.com/balancer/ Logic Pro X is free for 90 days, Pro Tools is fre for 90 days, Ableton Suite 10 is free for 90 days, Reaper 6 is free until June, Moog's minmoog ios app, and RolandZenbeats app are free, Arturia iSpark and Pigments have free trials, KV331’s SynthMaster One is free (this is a good one), Soundtoys effect rack plugin, AS-16 Sequencer rack, Cherry Audio's Voltage Modular, and Serato Studio is now free. https://www.musicradar.com/news/coronavirus-giveaways-the-best-free-software-and-services-for-musicians
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Quick question: what laptops are you guys using? My laptop just croaked so I'm in shopping mode. Looking for something in the $800ish range.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Yup. Nice -- thanks. I had been looking for a collection of all the ongoing deals and hadn't come across that one yet. Now to mull over whether to go ahead and upgrade Ableton Standard to Suite, having only just upgraded from Lite to Standard.
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a mysterious cloak posted:Quick question: what laptops are you guys using? My laptop just croaked so I'm in shopping mode. Looking for something in the $800ish range. There’s a new MacBook Air with a quad core i5 and 16gb of RAM for ~$1000 with edu discount ($1100 without). If that’s too dear, a new dual core i3 model can be had for $800 with discount ($900 without) and I’d probably get that instead of a refurbished/NOS 2018 model or older. I don’t really gently caress with PC laptops so I can’t help you there but I’m sure there’s a well-rated Dell (maybe not XPS) or Lenovo YOGA or whatever that people think is good.
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a mysterious cloak posted:Quick question: what laptops are you guys using? My laptop just croaked so I'm in shopping mode. Looking for something in the $800ish range. Is there any substantial reason for you to not use a desktop? The price/performance ratio and ease of use (two big rear end monitors, an actual mouse instead of a trackpad) recommend it.
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I will still use a desktop, but I like to drag the laptop and Keystep around. It would be at work with me right now, but my old Acer laptop is on its last legs. I tried opening Pigments on Tuesday and it sort of went "Uuhhhhgggggghhhh..." and loaded it about 5 minutes later. And that's after I formatted and reinstalled windows and a few apps. Plus my kid is doing school from home, and the old laptop won't play Modern Warfare, so... it's a struggle with a 14 year old. But I sympathize, because the poor kid is stuck at home and really misses his friends a lot. So I let him have the desktop most of the time.
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I did this recently... I'm not particularly proud of it. https://soundcloud.com/the_door_is_scary/eating-shredded-cheese-out-of-the-bag
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a mysterious cloak posted:I will still use a desktop, but I like to drag the laptop and Keystep around. It would be at work with me right now, but my old Acer laptop is on its last legs. I tried opening Pigments on Tuesday and it sort of went "Uuhhhhgggggghhhh..." and loaded it about 5 minutes later. And that's after I formatted and reinstalled windows and a few apps. If budget is the biggest concern, I’d use the quarantine as an excuse to help your 14 year old make his own budget gaming rig (bonus points if you make him use Linux for the first while, I’m p sure cod works on it great IIRC) and take back your desktop. You can get a wiped Dell Optiplex on eBay from 2013 with a 4770 in it for $150-200 depending on whether you want the seller to toss in any RAM/HDD/OS/etc. Drop 8-16gb of RAM, a <$50 SSD, and something like a GTX 1060 in that sucker and you’ve got a
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a mysterious cloak posted:I will still use a desktop, but I like to drag the laptop and Keystep around. It would be at work with me right now, but my old Acer laptop is on its last legs. I tried opening Pigments on Tuesday and it sort of went "Uuhhhhgggggghhhh..." and loaded it about 5 minutes later. And that's after I formatted and reinstalled windows and a few apps. I was shopping for Windows laptops over the winter, for use with DAWs and recording guitars/bass/keyboards with an audio interface, and ended up going with a Thinkpad P73, which depending on specs is probably north of what you're looking to spend, but a smaller Thinkpad might be closer, depending on which line and how you spec it out. Lenovo also seems to have sales all the time, and it seems not infrequent that some of their laptops are available at half off. The main thing for a windows machine, I think, would be to make sure you have at least 8GB, but ideally 16GB, of RAM, an SSD, and a decently fast processor. I liked the P line of the Thinkpad because it had room to expand with more SSDs inside if I wanted, and the RAM can be upgraded, but neither of those is really critical, particularly with an external SSD for library files. When I was looking at laptops, I was worried about latency in recording, which seems like it can be an unsolvable problem on some laptops, in sort of hard to predict ways (which ways are probably even harder to predict for your person use case, since depending on what kind of audio interface you use, you may not have the same issues as another person). Anyway, in looking at a lot of laptops, I checked out reviews on https://www.notebookcheck.net/ when I could find them, because that site generally included results from a LatencyMon test among their other specs they tested, and that seemed helpful. For what it's worth, I've been very happy with the Thinkpad, using Cubase and Ableton and recording into a Steinberg UR44. I could imagine any changes in software or hardware could provide different results, so I'm not sure I'd promise it's any kind of universal experience. But at least as one data point, it's been solid for me.
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Ok Comboomer posted:
Second the MBA. I'm using a last rev Air, insane battery life, does whatever, goes wherever. Works great with thunderbird UADs even through the adapter thing. To be honest, I upgraded for the resolution, my last generation 11" Air was a champ too (w/ a replacement SSD).
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I got a Hydrasynth Keyboard model for my birthday from my girlfriend. It’s funny because when I first heard about I thought killer, get that immediately, somehow find space for it. Then months went on and like the hype died down and I kind of went to thinking yeah, it’s probably pretty good. It is not just pretty good. It is a dream machine. It is the expressive, soaring, totally intuitive monster I have been searching for. It took me a whole fortnight to go through the presets because there are a lot of them and I kept getting caught up and losing myself in them - with poly aftertouch and the ribbon controller every patch has so much to explore. Doing sound design on it is wonderful. Instead of menu diving, it had a bunch of rotary encoders that light up their positions and beautiful OLED labels that shift their context around. Then it has a diagram made of buttons on the right of all the components of your patch, like an anatomy. You hit the button for LFO5, the main controls are all about that now, and there’s a big oscilloscope render for that LFO so you can visualise it as well as hear it. It looks like a nuclear weapons console and it plays like one, too. The one thing that I found disappointing was, although there are several points you can inject noise there is only three types of noise. Pretty silly but I just couldn’t find a noise that fit my patch. This was a discovery I made yesterday. This morning a patch was released to add four more noise types as well as a phase difference mutator. Clearly my mind was read. Somehow at this point I am not surprised; that’s what the Hydrasynth does. So I thought hey people should know how loving terrific it is in case people are like me and thought that the lack of constant hype meant it was mediocre. It is not mediocre, it is insanely great.
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Ok Comboomer posted:If budget is the biggest concern, I’d use the quarantine as an excuse to help your 14 year old make his own budget gaming rig That would be fun! However, I'm a nurse so work is slightly hectic right now, and that's more a project for normal times. Unfortunately I'm not really interested in Macs, although I know they're wildly popular for music production and such. chaosbreather posted:I got a Hydrasynth Keyboard model for my birthday from my girlfriend. Man, you're making it hard to resist sneaking one into the house...
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a mysterious cloak posted:Man, you're making it hard to resist sneaking one into the house... A girlfriend?
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Trig Discipline posted:A girlfriend? Gotta be careful, don't want the synths to get jealous
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a mysterious cloak posted:That would be fun! However, I'm a nurse so work is slightly hectic right now, and that's more a project for normal times. Eh, never too old to try that particular swirl. I mean, if you're already thinking about taking on a mistress--
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https://www.udemy.com/course/music-theory-for-electronic-music-complete-parts-1-2-3/ thoguts?
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echinopsis posted:https://www.udemy.com/course/music-theory-for-electronic-music-complete-parts-1-2-3/ Sure! Probably worth it for $11
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P' sure I've got at least one steam game I picked up for $11 and have never, ever played. Get a deep enough queue and it can actually be very easy to get no use out of things you spend money on.
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oh you’re talking to the master on that front
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echinopsis posted:https://www.udemy.com/course/music-theory-for-electronic-music-complete-parts-1-2-3/ I went through this course, it’s a great deal at this price. It helped me finally connect the dots and make the leap from preset surfing to designing patches from scratch. Definitely worth checking out!
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That’s positive to know, cheers
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echinopsis posted:That’s positive to know, cheers somewhat off topic but i didn't want to go back to the green forum to dig up that thread, but thanks for introducing me to give blender a short btw. my eldest is now making a donut. as for theory: some people on youtube do a pretty bad job of it because they don't use the right terminology, this is mostly important if you want to talk to other music theory people. fwiw, something like http://openmusictheory.com/ also explains things, but without the sound. arguably the biggest advantage of spending slightly more than  is having stuff read to you so you can put it on in the background and pick it up subliminally.ultimately, i don't think there's an escape hatch where you don't have to learn how to read a score. even a chord is a shorthand for several notes that you'd otherwise dump in a score, and for people who play jazz it's an indication, not necessarily "well i have to play this poo poo exactly". if you're looking for "how do i spice up poo poo with 7th and 9th chords and substitutions" you'll need either adam neely or folks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwPk5cz_9KM who show you the actual notes you have to play. then it's a matter of getting fluent enough to understand what they're doing.
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no experience with that course, but for what it’s worth i took a theory class in college and studied the textbook extensively after, but reading “music theory for computer musicians” by michael hewitt was what actually put anything i thought i had learned into simple, usable terms. not necessarily helpful in this situation, but it’s a drat good book.
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