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Jesus loving christ https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffreyGuterman/status/1248592739723350017 quote:A handful of holdout U.S. churches plan to hold in-person services on Easter Sunday, saying their right to worship in person outweighs public health officials’ warnings against holding large gatherings during the coronavirus outbreak.
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On a personal level I can't really blame Obama for wanting to stay out of anything and everything related to the current electorate. He already got an endless flood of racist harassment and racist death threats and even the merest bit of Trump provoking things would make it even worse, and now he doesn't have government resources to filter it all out all.
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Non coronovirus people NEED this medication https://twitter.com/SenRonJohnson/status/1248664149506359297 https://twitter.com/SenRonJohnson/status/1248668201950609408 https://twitter.com/SenRonJohnson/status/1248677616007237633 https://twitter.com/SenRonJohnson/status/1248703548050657280
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Sodomy Hussein posted:If they're all polling better than Biden then we're just quibbling about who Bernie would have lost to. Unfortunately Bernie's strategy depended on the moderates never uniting, which was totally unrealistic. No it wasn't. It actually happens fairly commonly in elections with big fields. See: Republicans in 2016.
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Apr 10, 2020 23:30
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Majorian posted:No it wasn't. It actually happens fairly commonly in elections with big fields. See: Republicans in 2016. I wouldn't exactly say "Fairly commonly," since 2016 was itself an exception. It was also easier for Trump to win in those primaries as many contests were winner takes all, so he could notch up higher delegate totals on relatively narrow victories. Trump also had enough support to keep winning after the field narrowed, which Sanders was unable to accomplish.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Non coronovirus people NEED this medication Republicans really fighting for their right to voluntarily drink bleach I say we should end this trampling of their civil rights
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Apr 10, 2020 23:37
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Majorian posted:No it wasn't. It actually happens fairly commonly in elections with big fields. See: Republicans in 2016. Yeah. Bernie's path to victory relied on that. And on a combination of building his coalition since 2016, and not losing too many Bernie 2016 voters who actually just hated Clinton. Underperforming on both counts hit hard. Acebuckeye13 posted:I wouldn't exactly say "Fairly commonly," since 2016 was itself an exception. It was also easier for Trump to win in those primaries as many contests were winner takes all, so he could notch up higher delegate totals on relatively narrow victories. Trump also had enough support to keep winning after the field narrowed, which Sanders was unable to accomplish. This too. Forgot how much Trump got out of winner take all contests.
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Majorian posted:No it wasn't. It actually happens fairly commonly in elections with big fields. See: Republicans in 2016. The Bernie campaign explicitly bet that the Democrat field is just like the Republican one, which not only indicts their poor strategy and understanding of the differences, but betrays their arrogance.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:The Bernie campaign explicitly bet that the Democrat field is just like the Republican one, which not only indicts their poor strategy and understanding of the differences, but betrays their arrogance. This is a pretty good bit.
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I literally don't think a Trump strategy works in the Democratic primary. The difference between FPTP and proportional delegates in the Republican and Democratic primaries means that a Trump strategy in 2020 results in a brokered Democratic convention where the majority of of delegates went to moderate candidates. But I don't think Bernie was running on that strategy, I think he planned to win a majority of delegates outright and just stumbled in South Carolina and the South as a whole.
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Paradoxish posted:Anyone who thinks that the economy is opening up soon is delusional and not paying attention to anything. The schools here are done. I work for a school district and even though Lamont has closed the schools through May, we're all prepped to be done for the school year. The state has already waved a variety of the state requirements for testing and teacher rating.
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Minenfeld! posted:The schools here are done. I work for a school district and even though Lamont has closed the schools through May, we're all prepped to be done for the school year. The state has already waved a variety of the state requirements for testing and teacher rating. They really need to just go ahead and call it so that teachers have as much time as they need to figure out what the end of the year looks like, and parents and students can get ready too.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Non coronovirus people NEED this medication People with Lupus and other chronic conditions will suffer and possibly die without this medication because of this bullshit. If state governments had any balls at all they'd be going after doctors who are prescribing this poo poo for their friends and relatives and random assholes who don't need it but are buying into whether the Cheeto man says as gospel.
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Haschel Cedricson posted:In Oregon the beaches are legally public highways. This is why the Department of Transportation famously was responsible for exploding a whale carcass. Pretty sure beaches are public highways from the high tide mark to the vegetation line in all 3 Pacific states (i.e., dunno about AK or HI).
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Sodomy Hussein posted:The Bernie campaign explicitly bet that the Democrat field is just like the Republican one, which not only indicts their poor strategy and understanding of the differences, but betrays their arrogance. Ok dude, you won, congratulations. Shouldn't you be happy, your guy won, everything is fine
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Minenfeld! posted:The schools here are done. I work for a school district and even though Lamont has closed the schools through May, we're all prepped to be done for the school year. The state has already waved a variety of the state requirements for testing and teacher rating. Yep. My mom and my girlfriend both have administrative positions in two different CT districts and right now their only question is whether or not schools will reopen for the next academic year. Since multiple states are canceling their entire school years I find it really, really hard to believe that general restrictions will be lifted before June.
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I posted this in the Corona thread but I feel it deserves a post here. NYT has models from the government that say that they estimate deaths to swell well into the hundreds of thousands if the stay at home orders are lifted on May 1. I think even The Model that’s overly optimistic that everyone’s using would agree with that as it specifically says that it’s based on the assumption that strict social distancing is kept up nationwide through a minimum of June. So all of May is meant to be under a continued lock down. https://www.nytimes.com./2020/04/10...l#link-42f8c1fd The country really cannot begin to open back up before July and by begin I mean a slow rollout of stuff. That’s simply how it HAS to be. If it doesn’t tens of thousands more will die at minimum.
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Trump also benefited heavily from the far-right media environment most Republicans engage with, as well as the complete lack of charisma, talent, or appeal among his opposition. Fox viewers and Limbaugh listeners had been primed for someone like Trump for years, a "successful businessman" who "tells it like it is," and "doesn't take poo poo," and even on mainstream networks Trump got a ton of airtime for his insane proposals like the Wall and the Muslim Ban that, as it turned out, ended up being free advertising that hooked people who agreed with those statements. And in comparison, presumptive nominee Jeb! was associated with the utter wreck of his brother's administration, had been out electoral politics for nearly a decade, and generally lacked any kind of charisma or appeal. The entire primary ultimately ended up being a race to the right, and it was a race that Trump was well-positioned to win.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I posted this in the Corona thread but I feel it deserves a post here. State governors don't have to listen to what Trump bitches about, right?
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Willo567 posted:State governors don't have to listen to what Trump bitches about, right? No they don’t. But Greg Abbot of Texas for instance is talking about executive orders to reopen businesses this month BEFORE their states infection peak is even expected to occur. So many states, a lot of big and important states, will tell Trump to gently caress off. But some won’t. And it will be a most expected tragedy.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RylandKY/status/1248726349444984845quote:Folks, we shouldn’t have to do this,” Beshear said. “I think it’s not a test of faith whether you’re going to an in-person service, it’s a test of faith that you’re willing to sacrifice to protect your fellow man, your fellow woman, your fellow Kentuckian, and your fellow American.” loving  Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Apr 11, 2020 |
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Spite posted:Say it with me: Bernie was never going to win the general. Everyone over like 45 is terrified of the word socialism. If the minority vote is getting completely suppressed then no D can ever win so that isn't a good argument against Bernie winning. I think the majority of voters view Bernie as a pretty normal Democrat and he would've had a better chance in midwest states where he would've been able to make a real populist argument against Trump that Biden can't. I'm also not convinced that he would've beat Trump. Just that he was probably our last chance to change the course from a very dark future. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Apr 11, 2020 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:No they don’t. But Greg Abbot of Texas for instance is talking about executive orders to reopen businesses this month BEFORE their states infection peak is even expected to occur. So many states, a lot of big and important states, will tell Trump to gently caress off. But some won’t. And it will be a most expected tragedy. The best part is that those states are going to force other states to maintain lockdowns for much longer. NY or CA can be completely COVID-free, but they won't be able to lift restrictions if TX is in the middle of an outbreak. Remember that the model that the White House is using for their "optimistic" projections specifically relies keeping lockdowns in place until cases drop below ten. Ten! Edit- This assumes that states don't get so serious about travel restrictions that they start loving with interstate commerce, but that's an entirely different crisis.
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That sounds good on paper but I'm also thinking this could easily wind up with people attacking police or worst case a Bundy standoff situation. Maybe I'm just being alarmist (probably).
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1248619884688199682 I wonder what he thinks good friday is about.
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lol Krakatoa just erupted. 2020 is wild.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Non coronovirus people NEED this medication isnt he in a super dangerous seat right now. https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1248714895853588487?s=20 also loving idiot.
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There Bias Two posted:lol Krakatoa just erupted. 2020 is wild. Yellowstone next please
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Paradoxish posted:The best part is that those states are going to force other states to maintain lockdowns for much longer. NY or CA can be completely COVID-free, but they won't be able to lift restrictions if TX is in the middle of an outbreak. For those in this thread not familiar with the primary model that the government is going off of it is predicting a total of 61k deaths under the VERY VERY specific directions of us doing absolutely everything perfectly for the next 2 straight months nationwide until cases are down into the teens. Meaning nationwide stay at home and strict social distancing the whole time no exceptions. Unfortunately a lot of it’s data is questionable and it’s projections for European nations have been continually underestimating how long the plateau phase will last before eventually declining so there’s a good chance their death estimation is too low but in theory their overall assumptions can work. But if it’s done perfectly. Are you confident we have it in us to do it?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:isnt he in a super dangerous seat right now. ron johnson isn't up for re-election until 2022
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Non coronovirus people NEED this medication I hate this. Once these kinds of snake oil cures get started it's so hard to get them out of the public conscious, which is going to be Hell for the people who actually DO have diseases that make them need this medicine to live and now won't be able to get it. Coming up next week: Trump says rubbing insulin on your body protects against the virus (he is basing this, of course, on absolutely nothing), thousands of morons buy up all the remaining supplies leaving everyone with diabetes poo poo out of luck.
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Wilbur Swain posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1248619884688199682 I can definitely see Trump crucifying Jesus so it checks out.
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Doctor Teeth posted:ron johnson isn't up for re-election until 2022 its that other johnson i guess.
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WOWEE ZOWEE posted:That sounds good on paper but I'm also thinking this could easily wind up with people attacking police or worst case a Bundy standoff situation. Maybe I'm just being alarmist (probably). Seems like the point of it is to avoid the confrontation of trying to stop these people from gathering. Doing that would probably get ugly somewhere.
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Tibalt posted:I literally don't think a Trump strategy works in the Democratic primary. The difference between FPTP and proportional delegates in the Republican and Democratic primaries means that a Trump strategy in 2020 results in a brokered Democratic convention where the majority of of delegates went to moderate candidates. I think he trying that strategy and until everyone dropped out 1 day before super Tuesday, it looked like he was going to get a plurality in a shitload of states with very few other people viable in them netting him a shitload of delegates. The people who dropped out then really all looked like they planned to stay in through Super Tuesday, having all decided against dropping out after other embarrassing showings. I know when I was out volunteering and knocking on doors, Biden never came up as a candidate people were considering and we were much more focused on persuading people from Warren or Pete over to Bernie.
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FuturePastNow posted:Seems like the point of it is to avoid the confrontation of trying to stop these people from gathering. Doing that would probably get ugly somewhere. Yeah, ultimately Beshear is going with the best option in a bad situation.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I hate this. Once these kinds of snake oil cures get started it's so hard to get them out of the public conscious, which is going to be Hell for the people who actually DO have diseases that make them need this medicine to live and now won't be able to get it. It's happening so fast too. I was listening to Knowledge Fight's coverage of Alex Jones' dumb bullshit over the last few days, and he was hawking Ivermectin as a miracle cure. Of course they weren't telling people to chug deworming medicine, they were just pointing out how effective it was and how easy it was to buy and how you could get apple-flavored paste for horses that tasted bad but worked great. It's already blown up enough that my local news had to cover it and beg people not to self-medicate with it. Also when I googled Ivermectin to get the spelling right, the first suggested search was "Ivermectin human dose."
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I hate this. Once these kinds of snake oil cures get started it's so hard to get them out of the public conscious, which is going to be Hell for the people who actually DO have diseases that make them need this medicine to live and now won't be able to get it. What this makes me wonder is how in the gently caress we ever managed to get things like vaccinations and public school established in the first place. Just imagining a universe in which Americans thought of themselves as part of a larger whole to which they owed some responsibility toward a better future is making my brain hurt like the purest science fiction
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