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While this sucks hugely, I take comfort in the fact that nobody will have their opinions changed by this obvious abuse of Commonwealth defamation law? Everyone will still know what a piece of poo poo Zak is.
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Joe Slowboat posted:While this sucks hugely, I take comfort in the fact that nobody will have their opinions changed by this obvious abuse of Commonwealth defamation law? Everyone will still know what a piece of poo poo Zak is. Yes but now he gets to throw this poo poo around like it has any weight in the court of public opinion. And possibly as a means to threaten people into silence. It won't do anything to anyone who doesn't already know a lot about the abuser named Zak S. Sabbath Smith who likes to poop his pants at Chick Fil-A. But for newbies? Maybe.
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Apr 9, 2020 02:22
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Well now I just hate Zak more. Gonna guess this had something to do with Ettin stepping down, too. Sucks.
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Apr 9, 2020 02:22
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There is now a thread for discussing Zak S! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3919633
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Is there a summary of the earlier Zweihander drama about boosting sales and rpgnet and stuff? I can't tell what of that is real and what is just the rpgpundit guy now.
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Elendil004 posted:Is there a summary of the earlier Zweihander drama about boosting sales and rpgnet and stuff? I can't tell what of that is real and what is just the rpgpundit guy now. Zweihander didn't have much to do with RPG.net as far as I can recall aside from getting booted there the same reason he was booted here, being incessant shilling. (Nisarg was bounced ages ago, I believe.)
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Zweihander goes (or used to go) on deep-discount sale like every other day for a while, which some people speculated was to "game" the marketing-important "metal rating" of the…game. I don't think that's true, and Fox now claims it's definitely disproven thanks to changes to how DTRPG ranks sales. Regardless how annoying he was, dude knew how to move his product. Also, I'm not sure "sold a lot of product by selling it a lot" is any kind of nefarious plot. I dunno why or what shape there is to Fox trying to interact with Pundit. Genuinely sorry for the guy there. And Pundit was booted from RPGnet in like 2004 or something, back in the wild days when you had to be a real shithead to get a perma there.
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That Old Tree posted:Zweihander goes (or used to go) on deep-discount sale like every other day for a while, which some people speculated was to "game" the marketing-important "metal rating" of the…game. I don't think that's true, and Fox now claims it's definitely disproven thanks to changes to how DTRPG ranks sales. What does that mean? Was there some theory that some algorithm weights things based on the price as well as the user ratings?
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BattleMaster posted:What does that mean? Was there some theory that some algorithm weights things based on the price as well as the user ratings? I don't know, I didn't put enough credence in the theory to really understand it.
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BattleMaster posted:What does that mean? Was there some theory that some algorithm weights things based on the price as well as the user ratings? so the medal rating is a function of sales; things being on deep discount get promoted by DTRPG; you could maybe game deep discounts to get sales which get you a medal rating which then makes your product more attractive even when it's not on sale because a bunch of people have already bought it so it has to be good right?
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It doesn't really matter anyway, becauseThat Old Tree posted:I'm not sure "sold a lot of product by selling it a lot" is any kind of nefarious plot. It's just the same "set a high base price, then usually have it marked down to a lower price" take-advantage-of-human-thought-patterns sales strategy that clothing stores use.
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Arivia posted:so the medal rating is a function of sales; things being on deep discount get promoted by DTRPG; you could maybe game deep discounts to get sales which get you a medal rating which then makes your product more attractive even when it's not on sale because a bunch of people have already bought it so it has to be good right?
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Nessus posted:There was a similar system for the e-publishing stuff on Amazon and I recall a similar strategy being fairly common as a way to boost your visibility. There was also the guy who got kicked off Amazon's sellers list for making bots that would, as I recall, sign up for the Kindle Unlimited trial and read all his books (so the author got his cut) and then cancel. Something like that. He made a lot of money before it was shut down.
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quote:so the medal rating is a function of sales; things being on deep discount get promoted by DTRPG; you could maybe game deep discounts to get sales which get you a medal rating which then makes your product more attractive even when it's not on sale because a bunch of people have already bought it so it has to be good right? Like most of their internal mechanisms, DTRPG doesn't explain their metal system very well, and the explanation they give on the sales site especially is not very clear and not strictly true:  Here is how it actually works: Copper: 51 units sold Silver: 101 Electrum: 251 Gold: 501 Platinum: 1,001 Mithral: 2,501 Adamantine: 5,001 https://onebookshelfpublisherservice.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360022135314-Bestseller-metals-and-how-to-earn-badges Note that many of these are a simple doubling of the previous level, contrary to the claim being made on the site. Note also that you can pretty much get copper and silver without even trying. quote:We are excited to announce that as of today, March 26, 2020, all "metal rankings" will be merged across all sites, as opposed to being counted uniquely per site. No matter what OneBookShelf site you visit or where customers might have purchased your title, it will show the same metal ranking on all sites. Doing something novel like having banded popularity tiers or actual ranking would be better, because this is still rather easily gamed. As a person who sells on DTR, they're noticeably bush league on a lot of this stuff compared to a larger company and there's lots of irritating problems with their publisher site functionality that could best be described as bugs. -Products remaining at sale price after the sale has ended -The sales report having tons of mystery affiliate codes instead of just telling you what websites users are arriving off of -Insisting that you not have direct links to social media on your page or emails like it's 2003 or something, which I can only imagine a lot of sellers quietly ignore -Having a weird publisher credit system to send publisher emails, run site banner ads, or set deals of the day (absolutely not worth it in my experience compared to running your own sale) -General sales page stuff randomly not working (page previews) -Generally pretty janky controls for uploading new content to sell Compounded with a lack of visibility into how DTR runs its site generally it can get a little frustrating. Generally I've had success with my interpretation of the Steam model of selling, which is (A) Post new free expansion content so it automatically appears on the front page (B) Put your core paid content on deep discount (C) Wait for the money to pay that month's electricity bill to roll in ...With steadily increasing sales activity over time the more I follow this model. I don't do any offsite marketing and I don't use a Facebook product page, because it's Facebook. People who bought the stuff already are happy you're continuing to support your product, and new people can get in cheap. You can see by the minimal scaling of the metal sales numbers that there's lots of people on the site barely moving anything, that are essentially making a little bit of grocery money off their hobby.
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Dawgstar posted:There was also the guy who got kicked off Amazon's sellers list for making bots that would, as I recall, sign up for the Kindle Unlimited trial and read all his books (so the author got his cut) and then cancel. Something like that. He made a lot of money before it was shut down.
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It's looking like Roll20 cut Koebel and at least some of the cast of their Roll20 Presents shows after cancelling the current run. https://twitter.com/roll20app/status/1248734263568224257 https://twitter.com/bluejay_712/status/1248739972871368704
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Cutting the other cast members seems like an odd decision, don’t really see the logic there.
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e: nm
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Apr 11, 2020 00:26
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Probably just a convenient excuse to sweep out some underselling performers.
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neaden posted:Cutting the other cast members seems like an odd decision, don’t really see the logic there. Bluejay is in a relationship with Adam, so I was wondering what would happen there. It's a shame, because I liked her character work. e: I'm going to miss the BANG Energy preshow on JBMD... Pinwiz11 fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Apr 11, 2020 |
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Fucker ruined probably my favorite Actual play podcast/stream in Jace Beleren must die. I hope Katie, TK, Carlos, and Masood stick around for the new show. Jesus christ Adam. All you had to do was not narrate a goddamn sexual assault without getting it okayed.
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Pinwiz11 posted:Bluejay is in a relationship with Adam, so I was wondering what would happen there. It's a shame, because I liked her character work. Ah! This makes way more sense then.
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Off the current topic, but if I wanted to start selling some of the RPG stuff I've written as PDFs, what's the best way to go about that? I'm ok with the writing and layout type stuff, but I'm completely lost when it comes to the selling part. I assume DTRPG etc are the way to go, but I don't even know how they pay you, let alone what kind of stuff I'd need to set up to get it all started. Has anyone written a primer/howto that someone can point me at, or could someone who sells their creations give me a basic starter rundown?
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Elector_Nerdlingen posted:Off the current topic, but if I wanted to start selling some of the RPG stuff I've written as PDFs, what's the best way to go about that? I'm ok with the writing and layout type stuff, but I'm completely lost when it comes to the selling part. I assume DTRPG etc are the way to go, but I don't even know how they pay you, let alone what kind of stuff I'd need to set up to get it all started. Has anyone written a primer/howto that someone can point me at, or could someone who sells their creations give me a basic starter rundown? You might be interested in this thread. Especially this post and possibly this post.
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I really like itch.io but mostly because I love being able to customise game pages, so I always end up taking hours to post anything 
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Great, thanks! Gonna set that poo poo up tonight and then see if I remember how to use indesign because I don't think notepad64 > print to PDF is gonna work out.
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https://twitter.com/vartian/status/1252425810696232961 Apparently, LotFP ain't doing so hot (the tweeter is using Zak's blog as a source, mind you).
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Apr 21, 2020 04:39
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Gosh, what a shame.
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Apr 21, 2020 04:57
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Defecations of the Rape Shitlord
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Kemper Boyd posted:https://twitter.com/vartian/status/1252425810696232961 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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Aw yeah, hook that poo poo to my veins.
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Apr 21, 2020 07:01
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Raggi loving off out of the industry so less lovely product _and_ Zak not being paid. This is definitely the good stuff
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ruh-roh, raggi!
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If Raggi is paying his writers 'several thousands of dollars' then no wonder he's going under.
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Dawgstar posted:If Raggi is paying his writers 'several thousands of dollars' then no wonder he's going under.
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dwarf74 posted:Paying his writers a reasonable rate is one of his few virtues. There's a reasonable rate and then there's overpaying for the prestige of having a guy who ran a game for porn stars.
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Dawgstar posted:There's a reasonable rate and then there's overpaying for the prestige of having a guy who ran a game for porn stars. Dig up.
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It really was about overpaying Zak but I phrased it bad and didn't realize the overall implication so apologies.
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