|
Bojo is gonna be in power for 15 years after killing poo poo loads of people huh... I really need to get out of this stupid loving country
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 16:51
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 22:46 |
|
|
to where? pretty much every country on earth is run by morons e: although I definitely understand the impetus, and at least if you were living somewhere else they'd be someone else's morons which might be easier to deal with
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 16:55
|
|
|
That Forward Momentum lot are having a zoom meeting at 8pm tomorrow, John McDonnell is taking part along with a few others. Going to pop on and see what it's all about I think, they seem like a solid bunch of lads from what I've seen so far. e: also, why are people so cagey about leaking this bloody document, I don't see how you sit on it as a nominal left-winger ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 12, 2020 |
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 16:57
|
|
|
Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1193144333366632448?s=19 https://twitter.com/HowUpsetting/status/1249365507054108672?s=20
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 16:58
|
|
|
lol they mad https://twitter.com/EuanPhilipps/status/1249366597329981440?s=20
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:01
|
|
|
Lol I loving said at the time that Gapes kept bleating about Mister Seumas Milne and Trot Whatsapp groups that they were telling on themselves.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:03
|
|
|
What the gently caress does this even mean, beyond "cis white man"?
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:03
|
|
I can't get enough of are Dan
|
It's like somebody put Jeff and Mark off Peep Show into that babbymaker wotsit app imo
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:05
|
|
|
Or Penfold from a live action Dangermouse.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:09
|
|
|
he looks like luke akehurst with brown hair he should also drown in a var of piss
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:13
|
|
|
Bastani's got a copy of the report: https://novaramedia.com/2020/04/12/its-going-to-be-a-long-night-how-members-of-labours-senior-management-campaigned-to-lose/
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:14
|
|
|
Bardeh posted:Bastani's got a copy of the report: SO how do you completely rebuild a party's entire administrative structure ? Because now is the time.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:17
|
|
|
thespaceinvader posted:SO how do you completely rebuild a party's entire administrative structure ? Because now is the time. Step 1. Build a time machine.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:17
|
|
|
yeah, if this doesn't lead to some actual recriminations, or even get acknowledged by the leadership, I'm going to be so pissed off I skimmed that article and these people are unmitigated scum, mocking the parties own members and activists. if any of them are still in the party in any capacity then they have to be expelled or it's dead to me
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:20
|
|
|
Hahahaha, what a loving shot across the bows, and all the little shits can do about it is bleat about GDPR being violated. Like anyone loving cares, it's all out there now you two-faced assholes.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:27
|
|
|
So assuming these people are (still?) in the Labour Party, why should I want to give the Labour Party money?
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:30
|
|
|
Chucat posted:So assuming these people are (still?) in the Labour Party, why should I want to give the Labour Party money? Most of them seem to have cut and run to pastures fresh, but two are currently senior officers in Unison.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:31
|
|
|
The timing of this though  What was their plan? Ruin the party and then... ?
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:31
|
|
|
I read the article. We would have a Corbyn-led Labour government right now if these people had, not even worked for it, but not actively tried to prevent it. Actually feel a bit sick, these people are loving evil.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:32
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/francisqcoyle/status/1249373989794992128?s=20
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:34
|
|
|
all of them that I looked at are no longer working for the party, but I don't know if that means they're also no longer members I read that whole article and it is so absolutely disgusting, I can hardly believe it if this wholesale sabotage by the people who were getting paid to run the party isn't addressed in anyway, it will be a complete failure. I'm obviously pissed off on ideological grounds, these scum are worse than Tories, but from a purely organisational point of view if they don't look into how and why this was able to happen then they can't stop it from happening again e: I mean obviously it's unlikely to happen again because it was purely ideological hatred of good things and starmer is not sure if he's pro good things, but theoretically XMNN fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Apr 12, 2020 |
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:37
|
|
|
XMNN posted:all of them that I looked at are no longer working for the party, but I don't know if that means they're also no longer members Be interesting to know how many are 'staffers' (and employees so possibly not members of the party? Is that a requirement) and how many are/were labour party members (eg the MPs). Virus chat: https://twitter.com/drphilhammond/status/1249297415846465536?s=20
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:45
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/malaiseforever/status/1249372847941783554?s=19 Lol literally begging for the cops to attack the party supporters.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:48
|
|
|
Chucat posted:So assuming these people are (still?) in the Labour Party, why should I want to give the Labour Party money? At this point I don't think you should.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:48
|
|
|
XMNN posted:
As long as the media in general is just repeating tory press statements without any criticism and all the last gasp/policy u turns get ignored then no.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:51
|
|
|
Almost every person named in that doc has gone protected on Twitter and I'm certain is currently scrubbing the gently caress out of their old posts, especially those from spring/summer 2017.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:52
|
|
|
lol I also checked that, mostly to vicariously harass them by reading other people's nasty tweets. Iain mcnicol is the only one that hasn't as far as I can see is there any legal recourse against these people? I imagine not, but I'd like to see them suffer at least a little bit
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:54
|
|
|
Chucat posted:So assuming these people are (still?) in the Labour Party, why should I want to give the Labour Party money? Realistically the Labour party is still the best place to effectively agitate for socialism in the UK. Even if the leadership are a bunch of melts now and some of the bureaucrats have been shits, they are dwarfed by the membership and they know it. They can't hold on forever. They are ideologically on the way out and the left is resurgent - even with this setback. Pay as little as you can get away with as membership dues, and make things loving difficult for the labour right, but throwing away any influence you might have had over the party is very shortsighted imho. The bolsheviks were the same party as the mensheviks for a long time, and the latter crying and going home doomed them. e: This isn't to say don't do smaller scale community organising/grassroots stuff etc too - but ditching labour to either do that exclusively or get in with a smaller, more overtly radical left wing party with a few hundred people is I think a terrible idea.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 17:59
|
|
|
How close can you get to openly and repeatedly calling them backstabbing careerists who need to be gulaged without getting suspended from the party?
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:01
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/CouncilCulture/status/1249382711904567296 Just because you go private doesn't mean replies get scrubbed
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:04
|
|
|
Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/malaiseforever/status/1249372847941783554?s=19 I don't think I would blame any Labour member who leaves the party over this. Things not going your way and someone in charge who's not your preferred choice is one thing, but this just makes it feel like you'd be headbutting a brick wall.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:05
|
|
|
Fumble posted:Im all for AD2000 based burns. I'm so glad I'm not the only know who knows the TRUE origin of "simp"
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:07
|
|
|
XMNN posted:lol I also checked that, mostly to vicariously harass them by reading other people's nasty tweets. Iain mcnicol is the only one that hasn't as far as I can see There probably would have been whilst they were in post, if any of their managers ever cared to pursue it, but I doubt there is now.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:07
|
|
|
I hope, sincerely, that this makes at least part of the Starmer group get worried/ react.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:09
|
|
|
goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/CouncilCulture/status/1249382711904567296 But the tweet being replied to does unless people have taken screen shots. I'm assuming OP meant 'deleting' when they said 'scrubbed'.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:11
|
|
|
Josef bugman posted:I hope, sincerely, that this makes at least part of the Starmer group get worried/ react. They won and so far are the people whose names are on the dirty work are disposable. I wouldn't expect any reaction beyond the same "now is the time to come together and look to the future" that we've already had.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:14
|
|
|
Doctor_Fruitbat posted:How close can you get to openly and repeatedly calling them backstabbing careerists who need to be gulaged without getting suspended from the party? Probably just leave out the gulag bit.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:15
|
|
|
goddamnedtwisto posted:Almost every person named in that doc has gone protected on Twitter and I'm certain is currently scrubbing the gently caress out of their old posts, especially those from spring/summer 2017. Is there someone out there archiving all of twitter? Feels like someone must be.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:16
|
|
|
loving lol if you think Starmer wasn't in on all this, or at the very least was as happy as a sack of cold sludge can manage to take advantage of the backroom fuckery to advance himself. Unless there's a serious purge of the internal structure of the party there's no way we're getting rid of this kind of ratfuckery, and with the melts back in control they're only likely to reinforce it to stop another Corbyn from getting anywhere near power.
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:17
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 22:46 |
|
|
I think archive.org does
|
|
#
?
Apr 12, 2020 18:17
|
|
