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Times like this I wish we had an organisation supporting the labour party that could mobilise the left-wing members to start poo poo and hold the labour party hostage until the melts are kicked. 
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Communist Thoughts posted:LOL der starmers report into the report isn't enough! We socialists demand our own report into the report! Don't be disingenuous.
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Apr 13, 2020 19:37
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It's the End of the world and all of western liberalism We've lost the Bolsover Beast at least the Labour Party's havin' a schism And John Redwood couldn't save the world from Jeremy Corbynism...
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Apr 13, 2020 19:39
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Apr 13, 2020 19:47
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WhatEvil posted:So LAAS are "taking legal counsel" and "collecting evidence of people sharing the report": You could always protect your tweets temporarily, or delete the posts where you share the link. I'm assuming they're too incompetent to do an insta-archive of everyone sharing it. brian posted:i genuinely don't understand how anyone can expect things from Keir Starmer like he wasn't explicitly the right wing candidate of choice, did you really think they were putting their eggs in the Jess Phillips basket or what What about the Nandy basket? 
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Apr 13, 2020 19:54
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ThomasPaine posted:Bored as hell of this lockdown now lads I'm loving it tbh. Getting paid, not having to work, nice weather to fart about in the garden.
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Apr 13, 2020 19:54
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 Dat ratio.
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Apr 13, 2020 19:55
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lol https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1249765660990812165?s=20
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Apr 13, 2020 20:10
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lee harpin wrote for the jewish chronicle and accused michael rosen of being paid by soros
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goddamnedtwisto posted:
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Lt. Danger posted:Don't be disingenuous. i'm being flippant not disingenous. what the report shows to me is the need for basically a total overhaul of the organisational structure of the labour party. cause this is basic toxic behaviour but also organsisational structure failure you'd expect from the early years of a small business not (in theory) a major political party so kier writing a report into who tattled and the left writing a report into how the report that shows things that were bad shows things that were bad seems insufficient to me i understand thats the process but the process seems hosed
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Apr 13, 2020 20:33
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Meanwhile: https://twitter.com/OdiliTime/status/1249602054252707840
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Apr 13, 2020 20:36
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jessflaps doesnt strike me as exactly a karen, shes super self-aggrandising but lacks the permanent state of victimhood since she knows how smashing it is to be jess
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Apr 13, 2020 20:38
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Communist Thoughts posted:i'm being flippant not disingenous. The left want the saboteurs to be disciplined; the report would be on the results of that investigation, i.e. proof that something was actually done about this. 2 and 3 are the key demands, 4 is evidence of completion.
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Apr 13, 2020 20:41
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Communist Thoughts posted:what the report shows to me is the need for basically a total overhaul of the organisational structure of the labour party. I agree with you on the need for a total overhaul. Apart from my constant moans about the absolutely crappy basic 'office admin' side of things, the processes are far too cumbersome for a party of around 500k members - just look at how long the leadership election took! We've had entire general election campaigns that take half as long. The rule book is a mass of bolt-ons on bolt-ons. The 'division of labour' as to who is in charge of what doesn't seem to be precisely defined. They need a ground up review.
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Apr 13, 2020 20:48
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:They need a ground up review. 
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Apr 13, 2020 20:50
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A lotta bootlicking in the comments...
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Apr 13, 2020 20:51
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Look at the fookin' state o' it
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I agree with you on the need for a total overhaul. Apart from my constant moans about the absolutely crappy basic 'office admin' side of things, the processes are far too cumbersome for a party of around 500k members - just look at how long the leadership election took! We've had entire general election campaigns that take half as long. The rule book is a mass of bolt-ons on bolt-ons. The 'division of labour' as to who is in charge of what doesn't seem to be precisely defined. yeah agreed, and they very obviously need accountability, transparency and collaboration at every level it seems like there was none of that even between major departments of the party
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/toubedavid/status/1249715238708133888?s=21 "Quilliam is a London-based think tank co-founded by Maajid Nawaz " 
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Apr 13, 2020 21:18
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Communist Thoughts posted:I'm still a member for now but it does feel poo poo to be giving money to these assholes. Name / avatar / post combo. The left's got nothing but bad choices and an endless uphill struggle ahead of it. And behind it. Labour, however, is not a left-wing organization it's a broad tent full of rot and mold. Got to organize outside and independent of it. endlessmonotony fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 21:19
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p397 of that report:quote:On 21 February 2018, Jeremy Corbyn sent Iain McNicol a letter regarding disciplinary procedures and the implementation of the Chakrabarti Report.938 (Reference 928 is to an email). So what here makes Corbyn look like a bad guy (as per idiots on Twitter?) (rhetorical question btw) (NB this isn't a response to Communist Thought's comment about not exactly making Corbyn look like a good guy which I didn't see til after I posted this). Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 21:19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wX2xBOuzRg
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Apr 13, 2020 21:24
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Do the emergency powers allow them to do that or did they just take it upon themselves? I like how that one polis checks behind the door in case the bloke has hidden a big party behind it. He'll go far imo
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Apr 13, 2020 21:36
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I mean functionally they can do what they want, they're the police. Who's gonna stop them?
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Apr 13, 2020 21:37
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Some sort of reverse Batman, maybe. Manbat? Tabnam? Something along those lines.
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Apr 13, 2020 21:39
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crispix posted:Do the emergency powers allow them to do that or did they just take it upon themselves? No, the emergency powers do not allow them to do that. However it isn't stopping them from doing whatever the gently caress they want.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean functionally they can do what they want, they're the police. Who's gonna stop them? The bloke with the camera there would be a good candidate, imo it'd be like the unveiling of ED-209 except an angry bloke who calls the police cunts and knobends crispix fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 21:39
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Why do people on twitter bother to say 'blocked' when they've blocked someone? The blocker can't see it and noone else cares do they? I'm blocked by Luke Akehurts* (I've never had any interactions with him or commented on any post of his so I guess it's one of those 'you're following someone I don't like' blocks.) And in any case if someone does block you, just sign in with a different twitter name to view their tweets. *deliberate spelling because without a doubt he has a thing set up to see when he gets name checked. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 21:46
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Same reason you stub your toe on something and then kick it afterwards.
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Apr 13, 2020 21:48
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Corona has cops treating white people like minorities and they lasted about 1 day before declaring it unprecedented abuse of power.
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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeiTCrGhaoksBvCdbhU4F8OQw_gRRp1KAU3DKmszwqvmqeXFg/viewform Signing letters is worth next to nothing but it takes two minutes so go hog wild
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Why do people on twitter bother to say 'blocked' when they've blocked someone? Righteousness is a hell of a drug.
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sebzilla posted:https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeiTCrGhaoksBvCdbhU4F8OQw_gRRp1KAU3DKmszwqvmqeXFg/viewform It would take me longer, I'd have to join the Labour Party first.
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Apr 13, 2020 21:58
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That's always been how power has worked, writing or not.
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LabourList now have a fairly even-handed write-up. Goes into more detail than the Beeb article, which from what I saw, focused purely on antisemitism and completely sidestepped abuse and sabotage. https://labourlist.org/2020/04/internal-report-lays-bare-poor-handling-of-complaints-by-labour/
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Apr 13, 2020 22:14
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Guavanaut posted:That's always been how power has worked, writing or not. Yeah, for sure. I just feel too tired to even want to talk about it right now.
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Prince John posted:LabourList now have a fairly even-handed write-up. Goes into more detail than the Beeb article, which from what I saw, focused purely on antisemitism and completely sidestepped abuse and sabotage. Seems reasonably fair (I've skimmed through the report a few times now). I'm going to stop reading about this now for a week - just getting too angry for words.
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