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Earwicker posted:i dont think a full on civil order break down would be necessary for local cops to choose to turn a blind eye in certain situations, which cops already have a history of doing Letting a buddy get off on a DUI is not the same as allowing businesses to be open when your government has ordered them closed. It would be open insubordination.
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and to anyone who thinks im "making things up": where im coming from on this is that donald trump spent two years trying to convince this country to be afraid of a hypothetical caravan of armed and dangerous immigrants ready to storm the country and destroy our values at any moment, and while obviously a lot of people saw the supposed border crisis as the manufactured bullshit it was, enough people took it seriously that it resulted in very real and direct violence maybe im wrong, i hope i am, but im not just randomly bullshitting im saying this out of fear, his past behavior, and the past behavior of similar leaders Zero One posted:Letting a buddy get off on a DUI is not the same as allowing businesses to be open when your government has ordered them closed. It would be open insubordination. look at police behavior during Prohibition. they turned lots of blind eyes to an entire illegal industry. did people get busted? of course, but the cops also let a shitload of people violate federal law when it was convenient (or they could profit from it) Earwicker fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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Chief McHeath posted:Some states and companies have even shittier wages for "tipped workers" and they make, like, $2.13 an hour. Yep, I made 2.13 as a server, and even as a delivery driver some places only paid 4 or 5 an hour while I was "on the road"
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Prohibition had government leaders in on it too. I'm not talking about cities or states where the elected leaders decide to lift restrictions. That's totally legal (but stupid). In other news... https://twitter.com/wesh/status/1249857928166866947?s=21
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earwicker, i'm confused about what you're trying to say. it seems like you're worried about trump-driven violence against...businesses who don't reopen? like racist cops are gonna team up with Ammon Bundy to force workers to cook fries at applebees? if trump says "BACK TO WORK BOYS" then yeah, some red state governors (but not all) are going to end their shelter in place orders. i don't think that's up for debate.
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Zero One posted:Prohibition had government leaders in on it too. I'm not talking about cities or states where the elected leaders decide to lift restrictions. That's totally legal (but stupid). Welcome to the OC.
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friendly 2 da void posted:earwicker, i'm confused about what you're trying to say. sorry im not explaining what im worried about very well, let me try to be more clear im not afraid of direct violence on businesses, at least not on a wide scale. im afraid of trump choosing a "reopen" date and if certain states dont want to reopen by that date, he will out pressure on them to do so by making some sort of direct address to the people in those states telling them that they are being oppressed by their Bad State Governments. he would likely make up some epithet like "enemy of the people" as he calls the media. the result would be isolated violence and some of those states caving to his wishes - or at least cave partially, granting allowances to religious groups and certain large corporations to reopen Earwicker fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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California has started using nation state terminology so, you know, interesting times
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Barudak posted:California has started using nation state terminology so, you know, interesting times Gavin Newsom's been doing that since before COVID-19, though.
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Fartbox posted:If you have ever done something that someone knows about on the internet you are now celebrity I created the superspreaders tag and commissioned the  emoteBow before me, knave Tweet about me when I die
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After forcing people in the state of Wisconsin to vote in person (and wait in massive lines in some areas) in an effort to suppress the vote, the GOP incumbent state supreme court judge lost by a decent margin. So it didn't work, and now we wait to see the size of the uptick in cases in a week or so.
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Xibanya posted:She looked me up and saw that I’d spoken to her colleague yesterday, so she put me on hold for 10 mins, then picked up again to say since I could still talk, I was probably worked up over nothing and to call again in the evening if I was still having trouble breathing. Don't call back until you're unable to talk is not very reassuring advice, hang in there.
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Ranidas posted:After forcing people in the state of Wisconsin to vote in person (and wait in massive lines in some areas) in an effort to suppress the vote, the GOP incumbent state supreme court judge lost by a decent margin.  quote:So it didn't work, and now we wait to see the size of the uptick in cases in a week or so. Fuuuuck
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poverty goat posted:Do you think all the beans, etc are actually grown here? it's mostly grown in poor countries where there's a whole supply chain of poor people with inadequate healthcare who can't socially distance before it even leaves the country on a boat to america, where it has to pass through our ports, warehouses and factories, which are incidentally also all manned by poor people with inadequate healthcare who can't social distance. Of course there will be opportunities for little supply chain disruptions to cascade into major outages. There was basically 0 chance back in January of the economy collapsing, massive unemployment and trillions in republican-backed handouts but here we are, and we're nowhere near the bottom We grow massive quantities of beans, grain, corn, etc., so much so that we actually export a lot of it. The US is the world's leading food exporter by a huge margin, and most of that is raw material or products made from beans and grains. We produce so much that we're still a net exporter of food despite also importing such massive quantities of it:  A significant portion of our imports are non-staples: tropical products, livestock, etc. Only 50% is in the broad "horticulture" category, which from the USDA includes: "fruits, vegetables, tree nuts, wine, essential oils, nursery stock, cut flowers, and hops."  The fact of the matter is that we have massive excess capacity to produce and distribute food. Meat manufacturing is slumping due to a drop in demand, demand which will pick back up as people eat through their supplies and begin needing to restock their freezers again.
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My last trump post tonight but I’m genuinely nervous about how much poo poo he’s going to gently caress up. https://mobile.twitter.com/cspan/status/1249839612736032768 https://mobile.twitter.com/cspan/status/1249837741711544321
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precision posted:Reporters are increasingly going to stop giving fucks and actually just start yelling "LIIIIIES" at him Could have just gone with that from day one.
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Zero One posted:Prohibition had government leaders in on it too. I'm not talking about cities or states where the elected leaders decide to lift restrictions. That's totally legal (but stupid). Allowing sports to continue without an in person audience sets a good precedent, I think. Keeping things "locked down" even at the current level isn't going to last for a year or 18 months or however long it takes to make a vaccine. Most workplaces are going to open up in one form or another. Having thousands of spectators cram into a stadium together is hella dangerous right now. Having a couple hundred dudes in the stadium to play and broadcast the game is still a risk, but not nearly as bad a risk as thousands of spectators milling around. At least the players are able to get tested regularly, so they are much better off than most workers.
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Puppy Galaxy posted:I feel like the most likely outcome is that trump will tweet something like “America is open for business!!!!!” and then walk it back. He will directly and indirectly cause more people to suffer and die, but it will be in a totally disorganized way. sadly the best case scenario
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Ranidas posted:After forcing people in the state of Wisconsin to vote in person (and wait in massive lines in some areas) in an effort to suppress the vote, the GOP incumbent state supreme court judge lost by a decent margin. This is...extremely excellent. To the extreme.
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QuarkJets posted:The fact of the matter is that we have massive excess capacity to produce and distribute food. Meat manufacturing is slumping due to a drop in demand, demand which will pick back up as people eat through their supplies and begin needing to restock their freezers again. And every pound of meat requires several pounds of grain, not producing pork is a net gain for total food. No one is going hungry.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Allowing sports to continue without an in person audience sets a good precedent, I think. Keeping things "locked down" even at the current level isn't going to last for a year or 18 months or however long it takes to make a vaccine. Most workplaces are going to open up in one form or another. WWE isn't "sports". It's entertainment. It's in the name, and it's a fixed outcome. It's acting, therefor by this ruling, any entertainment that meets whatever the WWE does to legally be "essential" would need to be allowed, so whatever you could think of. Television, performance arts of all stripes, etc, and those who are questioned about it or stopped now have a good in to legally challenge it and tie up the courts. So...neat.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Allowing sports to continue without an in person audience sets a good precedent, I think. Keeping things "locked down" even at the current level isn't going to last for a year or 18 months or however long it takes to make a vaccine. Most workplaces are going to open up in one form or another. We're not locked down enough now to have any measurable effect lmao
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Facebook Aunt posted:Allowing sports to continue without an in person audience sets a good precedent, I think. Keeping things "locked down" even at the current level isn't going to last for a year or 18 months or however long it takes to make a vaccine. Most workplaces are going to open up in one form or another. the players should be happy to travel the country entertaining us right now, playing sports in close proximity to people from other exotic locales, since they are able to get tested regularly, and it's just the flu
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Big Beef City posted:WWE isn't "sports". Right. And instead of an in-person audience it will all be broadcast on TV or online or PPV. poverty goat posted:the players should be happy to travel the country entertaining us right now, playing sports in close proximity to people from other exotic locales, since they are able to get tested regularly, and it's just the flu Still safer than grocery clerks and bus drivers. 
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:I'm sure that's some stuff started on 4Chan What are you talking about? Thats a real article. Please tell me you aren't so dumb you believe China stopped having people die back in February.
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I think the truth about china is unknowable right now, but for sure something is going on. How grave and at what scale, we can't know. Just not massive enough to get notice, maybe its really gone, we will probably know in a decade,
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Kharmakazy posted:You are, and worse you are constantly moving the goalposts and basically saying nothing over and over and over again. You say some demonstrably false nonsense, then you say some talking point that is completely unrelated to the subject, and when you are proven wrong you just pivot and say you didn't say what you said. that the president is able to influence a lot of people regardless of the truth is indisputable gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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I like how it's been months now and there's still dozens of hospitals who are requesting support in making their doctors  https://gogglesfordocs.com/
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Xibanya posted:Plague diary, day 9. Indeed a bit of a regression today. Not gonna bother retyping it, Man this is so scary You are BRAVE when this is all over lets make a thread together you and I I'd love to illustrate or smth
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shovelbum posted:We're not locked down enough now to have any measurable effect lmao This isn’t true, at least not everywhere. NYC has seen a drop in the hospitalization rate, and while the deaths haven’t dropped off, they’ve plateaued somewhat. The lockdowns are absolutely having an effect
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In minor lockdown news I baked some chocolate chip biscuits for the first time in...10 years? Went ok, but it helps to actually have the exact ingredients and an electric beater. Going to have plenty of time to get better at this baking thing.
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We made lemon bars. The secret to extra lemony lemon bars is cream of tartar
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