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Lone Goat posted:What were the good seasons where someone ran it all the way through? Wendell and Dom pretty much ran Ghost Island the whole way through right? That was a decent season I think.
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IcePhoenix posted:Wendell and Dom pretty much ran Ghost Island the whole way through right? That was a decent season I think. I’d agree with that. Of the last half dozen or so seasons I felt like most had tolerable winners, even if it wasn’t always my preferred type of season. I still can find something to enjoy most seasons if they don’t have a big flashy dominant winner or a fun character at the heart of it. I will admit to having higher hopes for this season than a typical one though. Last ones I really enjoyed from start to finish were probably Tony and Cochran. Was very happy to see Tyson get his win as well. Lone Goat’s post reminds me of something Stephen was frustrated with on this week’s Know-It-Alls. The amount of time taken up this week by Edge of Extinction and the whole Fire Tokens gimmick really cut into time that could have been used to give a clearer picture of what unfolded strategically. I also agreed with Stephen’s frustration that the amount of randomness and gimmicks is getting a bit out of hand. The coin flip idol is dumb as hell. I don’t know if we’re there yet or not, but eventually all the random bullshit gimmicks start to detract from players being able to craft coherent strategies. I dunno. There’s still time for this season to get on to what I’d consider a better track. For example I’d love to see whether the years of hype around Kim are justified. If she manages to take over the game that could be fun. Tony could make this a fun ride. A steady diet of Tyson confessionals would be another good possibility. I’m way past ready to see Ben, Sophie, Michele and Nick shown the door though.
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BGrifter posted:Lone Goat’s post reminds me of something Stephen was frustrated with on this week’s Know-It-Alls. The amount of time taken up this week by Edge of Extinction and the whole Fire Tokens gimmick really cut into time that could have been used to give a clearer picture of what unfolded strategically. This is honestly my biggest gripe with stuff like EoE, Ghost Island, etc.
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Apr 12, 2020 18:00
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I like this season because it answers the the hypothetical of "What happens if people know the existence aand game plan of the several 'social threat' archetypes ahead of time?" Rob, Chill Town, etc. can be hilarious to watch steamroll a game that you'd think the other players could react to, but a season like this seems to show that foreknowledge is needed. The downside with that for me is the answer is the somewhat stilted game we have now.
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I will accept the weird editing that leaves us in the dark about who the pivotal players are and how and why they're making decisions if the producers, who clearly are taking inspiration from the Genius, give us an Extreme Ways montage when it's revealed at final five that Jeremy and Kim or whoever have been masterminding the entire game together all along.
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Pinterest Mom posted:I will accept the weird editing that leaves us in the dark about who the pivotal players are and how and why they're making decisions if the producers, who clearly are taking inspiration from the Genius, give us an Extreme Ways montage when it's revealed at final five that Jeremy and Kim or whoever have been masterminding the entire game together all along. Agreed. I would also like fire tokens to have even a tenth the impact on Survivor as garnets did on The Genius. Otherwise they're just a waste of time. And I wouldn't fault them for trying it just to have fire tokens not really matter, but then you chop it down in the edit bay.
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Apr 12, 2020 20:48
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If it’s any season that needed longer episodes, it was this one. We have returnees that haven’t played for years and have existing relationships, a twenty person cast, advantages flying about everywhere, and edge (which also means there has to be an extra two vote offs).
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Apr 12, 2020 20:52
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They had one in the form of two tribes losing immunity. Then because it's the worst solution possible they'll just go with a final 5, and why not since the jury will just vote for their Edge buddy anyway? Real talk a post-jury Edgelord getting to return is the overriding reason this season doesn't feel like the Winners at War struggle their Bond theme song wants it to be.
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On the other hand if we had no Edge of Extinction then all those old school players people are upset are gone would be gone quicker and the more low key players would have been more of the show. I definitely have the same concerns everyone else has about a repeat of the last time but until that happens I think the EoE has had positives and negatives that more or less balance out. I'm actually a little surprised by some of the criticisms that there's not enough strategy being shown. I mean, I know some people always want to see more but I think the last few weeks' votes have been very easy to understand and I think the fact that there's no clearly defined alliances feels like a proper reflection of the state of the game. I was for example surprised that like people didn't immediately assume Michelle and Nick were the ones left out of the Wendell blindside. That seemed pretty obvious to me and consistent with what the episode told us as well as past ones.
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STAC Goat posted:On the other hand if we had no Edge of Extinction then all those old school players people are upset are gone would be gone quicker and the more low key players would have been more of the show. Not seeing the problem here. Some of the old school people have been on FIVE seasons before this, and they've had their time in the sun. Much like pro wrestling, you have to make new stars, and you're not going to accomplish that by making old people the focus of your product even when the game has passed them by.
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Stokes posted:I'm watching AU season 2 as my first AU Survivor experience. I like it but production-wise there's a lot of fanservice that's kind of off-putting that they do instead of making AU it's own thing. The host is just Jeff with an Aussie accent. He even does the "Well if it's one thing we learned...." South Park outro that Jeff does. FWIW, AU Survivor gets way better in later seasons. Eventually (maybe in AU Season 5?), there's a tribal where someone accidentally calls Jonathan "Jeff" and everyone laughs. Great TV.
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Unison posted:FWIW, AU Survivor gets way better in later seasons. Eventually (maybe in AU Season 5?), there's a tribal where someone accidentally calls Jonathan "Jeff" and everyone laughs. Jonathan is a better Jeff Probst than Jeff Probst is in 2020. I used to think Probst was impossible to replace. Now I think replacing him with Jonathan would be an improvement.
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https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/survivor-season-finale-amazing-race-premiere-date-cbs-1234578484/ -Reunion will be done virtually -Finale + reunion is on May 13th and is three hours (I think this is normal?) -May 6th episode is two hours -Amazing Race starts on May 20th
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21 people on a call with varying degrees of mic quality is going to be such a poo poo show.
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Shneak posted:21 people on a call with varying degrees of mic quality is going to be such a poo poo show. It's ok they'll only talk to seven of them
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Apr 14, 2020 04:37
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Way harder for Jeff to moderate on Zoom. Danni might go rogue and speak. 
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IcePhoenix posted:-Amazing Race starts on May 20th Yissssssss is anybody doing a thread?
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Amazing Race is still a thing??? drat I remember the first season or two, before everyone had cell phones and it was honestly a really neat idea back then.
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Mini-review of AU season 2: Ziggy is my chaotic neutral (or is it neutral evil?) spirit animal. The remove jury member advantage is dumb and straight up not fair. The wrong person won. The only thing that is going to be a bummer about the conference call finale is that Jeff is probably going to be able to control any kind of negativity towards the EoE gimmick. It will be interesting to see how they divide up the air time.
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precision posted:Amazing Race is still a thing??? drat I remember the first season or two, before everyone had cell phones and it was honestly a really neat idea back then. racers aren't allowed to use cell phones
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IcePhoenix posted:racers aren't allowed to use cell phones Yeah but I meant more that everyone AROUND them is gonna have one. Like if they have to stop and ask directions, the random person they ask can just Google it
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Has AZ evolved past just being ten rounds of global taxi roulette? I watched some of the mid-30 seasons a year or so ago and it feels the same as it did watching season 7-9, for better and worse.
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Apr 14, 2020 23:17
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Rob and Amber were on Amazing Race once, if anyone didn't know and wanted more of them.
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Amazing Race just kind of bores me as a game, at least based on the four or so episodes I've seen. It just feels like if you took a Survivor challenge and stretched it over like an entire 45 minutes of airtime.
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Daikloktos posted:Rob and Amber were on Amazing Race once, if anyone didn't know and wanted more of them. Twice!
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Raxivace posted:Amazing Race just kind of bores me as a game, at least based on the four or so episodes I've seen. I feel like Amazing Race is a little too much game for me. Its very formulaic and hyper focused on the tasks and all, which is fine and I usually like that stuff in other shows. But the balance seems too far in that direction for me or something. I end up not super caring about the people doing the racing unless they really stand out or I had a pre-existing opinion of them.
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Daikloktos posted:Rob and Amber were on Amazing Race once, if anyone didn't know and wanted more of them. I remember all the other contestants being mad at them because they broke the meta to straight up skip challenges to take a time penalty and use their celebrity to great effect to get ahead. That was a fun season.
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I’m not usually an Amazing Race fan, but it was super fun seeing Rachel and Brendan on there. Can never have too much Rachel on these sorts of shows. 
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Amazing Race definitely lives and dies on the personalities of the teams. Survivor can sort of cover up boring people with the strategy and tension but it's pretty rare for a race to come down to the end (despite the editors doing their best to make it look close).
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I just went down a mini Amazing Race wikihole and uh did Danielle write this
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I thought the family season they did that one time was cool. Did they ever do that again?
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Pinterest Mom posted:I just went down a mini Amazing Race wikihole and uh this might be better than the goat yoga ladies who I think split their business before they even got home e: they were eliminated in the second episode too so it's not like it even had time to fester they just instantly imploded because one of them was a total bitch as soon as they hit adversity IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Apr 15, 2020 |
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I vaguely remember a season with a woman who had a prosthetic leg and was dating her physical therapist, and they definitely broke up halfway through the series and he came off as really demanding.
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Sighence posted:Has AZ evolved past just being ten rounds of global taxi roulette? I watched some of the mid-30 seasons a year or so ago and it feels the same as it did watching season 7-9, for better and worse. Taxis don't seem to come into play much any more. There's usually one of two cab stealing incidents a season, and a few times where cabs can't be found somewhere, but it's no longer a major theme. Same with flights being hours apart and killing teams; there's always some equalizer (which can be really annoying). The Lord Bude posted:I thought the family season they did that one time was cool. Did they ever do that again? ... that was by far their worst season ever.
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The flight/cab thing is weird to me because when I've watched it seems like a lot of noise and then they all end up at the same place at relatively the same time. Which I think is fair but like that's the "formula" that feels to me like its more habit and tradition than actually something happening. It would be like if every episode of Survivor had a 15 minute segment of people picking Reward Challenge teams or something.
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I just started rewatching season 1 on CBS on demand. I forgot how much more difficult being on the show was in the those early seasons. Like they were legit starving and had to plow through the jungle in the middle of the night to reach tribal.
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I spent much of those early seasons wondering how much danger CBS would actually allow them to be in.
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STAC Goat posted:The flight/cab thing is weird to me because when I've watched it seems like a lot of noise and then they all end up at the same place at relatively the same time. I really miss the flights being a bigger deal from past seasons. Maybe it's just a product of the world as a whole now though that there aren't as many options or chances for teams to try and skip ahead of the others.
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e.martin posted:I just started rewatching season 1 on CBS on demand. I forgot how much more difficult being on the show was in the those early seasons. Like they were legit starving and had to plow through the jungle in the middle of the night to reach tribal. Definitely rewatch Africa
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But seriously... were there dudes with guns next to the camera men or was "you might get eaten by a lion" just in fine print of the contracts?
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