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MoaM posted:What exactly was the point of Crisis Core?...
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I can only hope they downplay Genesis in the remake-sequels though, because gently caress Genesis. I hope he's not popular in Japan.
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Apr 15, 2020 01:54
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Under the Apple Tree is a good song IMO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb6MF0IfsvQ
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homeless snail posted:It adds nothing, it just expands on the Zack Fair parts of FF7 in a way that's kinda cool to see. Ignore literally everything else about it that isn't based on a FF7 flashback Eh, I wouldn't agree with that. Some of the best bits of it are Aerith and Zack hanging out (largely because in Japan they were voiced by a real-life married couple and so they banter with legitimate charisma) and a few other things. Like you actually get to see Sephiroth acting like a sane person which makes what happens to him afterwards feel more shocking rather than "this guy we knew was batshit is in fact batshit." Also The Price of Freedom is a top tier FF song. I would say that CC is strongest when it is fleshing out events from FF7 and weakest when it is doing its own thing. Kind of like FFVIIR! Clarste posted:I can only play they downplay Genesis in the remake-sequels though, because gently caress Genesis. I hope he's not popular in Japan. I mean Genesis gets a very brief namedrop in this (when Hojo is talking about 'mating' Aerith) but considering that apparently Gackt doesn't want to do anything more with FF I think they'll leave it at that. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Apr 15, 2020 |
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Apr 15, 2020 01:54
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Crisis Core music in general is very good
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Apr 15, 2020 01:54
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I include the Aerith stuff under that umbrella
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Apr 15, 2020 01:55
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For those who never played Crisis Core, Genesis is another Sephiroth who tries to be even more Sephiroth. Even prettier hair, even more pretentious dialog, and even more angelic motifs. It's awful.
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Apr 15, 2020 01:56
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Nothing shall forestall my return...
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Apr 15, 2020 01:58
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Clarste posted:For those who never played Crisis Core, Genesis is another Sephiroth who tries to be even more Sephiroth. Even prettier hair, even more pretentious dialog, and even more angelic motifs. To be more clear: Genesis was an attempt to try a different method of making a Sephiroth but one that failed miserably and starts decaying. He becomes obsessed with a poem because he thinks it holds the secret to not dissolving into a horrifying pile of jenova goo and dedicates himself to trying to live out that poem while everyone else around him is like "what the gently caress?" That's right. Genesis isn't Sephiroth. He's Seifer.
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Apr 15, 2020 01:59
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That poem is Loveless, the play from the sign in Midgar.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:01
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Why did beating up ghosts change some totally separate timeline? If that's what it was.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:05
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I still think my favorite loveless gag is in the original game when Cid mentioned he went to see it live and fell asleep, which if you’ve never listened to the actual album is a feat.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:07
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Because time ghosts. Given that they call it the Will of the Planet it makes most sense to me to consider it a variation on the Weapons. They don't have any actual control over fate or anything, they are just physical beings that are trying to physically nudge things in the direction the Planet wants them to go. And just like the Weapons they can be killed. So they're dead now, or at least a major clump of them. Clarste fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Apr 15, 2020 |
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Apr 15, 2020 02:08
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I wonder if the play in the Golden Saucer is going to be a full length musical now. Starring Jessie Raspberry as the Princess.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:16
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ImpAtom posted:It also lends some backstory/world building to other stuff, some of which is stupid and some of which actually does a nice job of fleshing out empty periods of the story (like the war with Wutai.) homeless snail posted:It adds nothing, it just expands on the Zack Fair parts of FF7 in a way that's kinda cool to see. Ignore literally everything else about it that isn't based on a FF7 flashback OK, thanks guys.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:16
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Clarste posted:Because time ghosts.  Clarste posted:So they're dead now, or at least a major clump of them.  Optional remake bosses and DQXI-like cross-overs are comin' people...book it.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:17
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e: mistakenly pressed reply, not edit
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Apr 15, 2020 02:18
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Clarste posted:I wonder if the play in the Golden Saucer is going to be a full length musical now. Eh, I think she'll fall a little flat for that role.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:37
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DrNutt posted:Eh, I think she'll fall a little flat for that role. On the contrary, I think she’s positively smashing.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:38
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Poor Jessie. Always the bridesmaid/stagehand.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:42
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Honestly it annoys me that Wedge survives (possibly even gets saved at the end by the whispers???), Biggs also somehow lives but we get no explicit reveal of Jessie living. Make Jessie an explosive-based party member next gane, you cowards.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:59
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Flopsy posted:I think we're all overlooking a incredibly juicy possibility here. The game essentially saying screw destiny means it opens itself up to being a multiple choice for your actions sorta game. I mean with all the time and care they put into putting out these episodes the possibility of getting wildly diverging story beats for making different choices suddenly opens itself up. And I'm so here for where they go with that because there's a lot of characters I wish had more development/screen time and I feel like they're about to offer me everything I've ever wanted. Yeah, the fact that game 1 of the remake literally went out of its way to say "gently caress destiny, we'll make what we want" is pretty much outright saying there's no guarantee that the rest of the remake will follow the same story. That could be really good, or it could faceplant. We get to find out. Either way, a bunch of people are gonna piss their pants over it.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:00
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Is Wedge voiced by the guy that played Badger in Breaking Bad?
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Apr 15, 2020 03:00
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Honestly it annoys me that Wedge survives (possibly even gets saved at the end by the whispers???), Biggs also somehow lives but we get no explicit reveal of Jessie living. It was pointed out that next to Biggs on the counter where his bandanna is also is Jessie's gloves. So there's a good chance she's alive. And Wedge may be dead. The Whispers were pushing him towards a window, we hear a smash, and his last lines of dialogue are the same lines of dialogue they were in the original game during his death scene
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Apr 15, 2020 03:01
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Is Wedge voiced by the guy that played Badger in Breaking Bad? Yes
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Apr 15, 2020 03:01
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Is Wedge voiced by the guy that played Badger in Breaking Bad? Yes.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Honestly it annoys me that Wedge survives (possibly even gets saved at the end by the whispers???), Biggs also somehow lives but we get no explicit reveal of Jessie living. It's gonna make when she comes back in the next game 10x more hype this way though
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Apr 15, 2020 03:02
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Explains why I kept expecting a line about blue stuff at some point.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:03
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MelancholyMark posted:It's gonna make when she comes back in the next game 10x more hype this way though You know, Jessie is established as a tech person... Kill Cid and have Jessie become your badass dragoon tech person.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:03
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Clarste posted:Further thoughts: my acting assumption at the moment is that Jenova/Sephiroth is trying to pull a Chrono Cross and creating a new timeline where it has a chance to survive. I thought it was a weapon too  That would have been cool.Also if that scene means Jessie is alive, YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Apr 15, 2020 03:04
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Is Wedge voiced by the guy that played Badger in Breaking Bad? Yes, and it is loving awesome. Check imdb.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:07
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I really don't feel like there was a good sense of urgency in the run up to the plate dropping. Oh let's just spend an hour doing some ghostbusting instead of running to the plate.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:12
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IDK its not like they're going out of their way to do the ghost busting, the ghosts aren't letting them leave. About the same scope as the train graveyard in the original game imo Now the underground Shinra research facility under Wedge's house, thats a weird detour
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Apr 15, 2020 03:14
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Sector 7’s about to come down. Better chill on this bench for a few and check out the vending machine conveniently near the top of this pillar.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:21
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They set up the research facility somewhere in Chapter 3 / 4, I can't recall... I really don't like the design of the Unknown Entities, they seemed more like sentient beings from another world than bio-lab experiments gone wrong.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:26
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Pollyanna posted:Yeah, the fact that game 1 of the remake literally went out of its way to say "gently caress destiny, we'll make what we want" is pretty much outright saying there's no guarantee that the rest of the remake will follow the same story. That could be really good, or it could faceplant. We get to find out. Thats more or less how I interpreted the ending. Either things are about to go balls to wall amazing or it'll land like a wet fart. I'm willing to see where it goes either way.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:30
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Yeah, I feel like the way they handled all the Jenova spawn other than the Dreamweaver was kind of odd.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:30
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I'll admit, I'm not sure why they went to the trouble of saving Wedge in this incarnation, giving you a whole dungeon to save him, bring him back for the final showdown... and then (possibly) just kill him off again. But the AVALANCHE scoobies were cool. Tripping death flags left and right obviously even if you haven't played the original game, but cool. Cloud had better get the best pizza ever in part 2, though. Also, was there ever actually a point to that weird childhood flashback Aerith got in the Train Graveyard? With... Marlene being there for whatever reason?
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Apr 15, 2020 03:34
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MoaM posted:They set up the research facility somewhere in Chapter 3 / 4, I can't recall... I thought they were supposed to be updates of the weird-rear end thing that came out of the pod in Cloud's flashback in the original
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ImpAtom posted:I mean Aerith's motivation of "I'd really rather not die" is reasonably justified. She spends a lot of this game talking about how she dislikes the inevitability of a dark fate and whatnot.
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