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Neurophonic: May 2, 2009

Rivethead posted:

China, with a poo poo ton more people than us pays 40 million and we've been paying 400 million. Consider what just happened. The WHO let us down. Screw 'em until they get their act together. Find another cash cow.

The USA contribution to the WHO is actually under $100million

https://www.who.int/about/finances-accountability/funding/assessed-contributions/en/

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Ailumao: Nov 4, 2004

Dont Touch ME posted:

Racism against Vietnamese is less of a race thing (North Vietnamese are Cantonese by a different name) and more of a historical thing. Stop looking at it teleologically, Vietnam has been China's kidnap and rape playground throughout history. The discrimination comes from a place of historical imperialism that predates Western colonialism.

Also, Chinese society probably met black Africans before they met white Europeans. There's a long history of Africans south of the Nile ending up in Western Oriental armies, armies that China has fought with many times over the centuries.

China is a colonial state. It was practicing imperialism when Europe was still a jungle full of apes that hadn't figured out agriculture. It's an amorphous blob that crawls across the landscape, assimilating and sinocizing everything unlucky enough to be nearby. It's been doing that for 6000 years. The idea thay it can't develop racism on its own is ludicrous, when it has demonstrably developed its own versions of everything short of the industrial revolution, independently of the west.

Yeah and there's a long history of discrimination even if you stay in the very wide net of what "Han" is. Ignoring how Beijing and Shanghai or other cities tend to act holier than thou and hate anyone from anywhere else (which isn't much different than people from major metropolitan cities in other countries), rn people from Hubei or with just with Hubei hukous are being kind of wildly discriminated against.

My company was planning an outdoor event to destress since we're back in the office and while a handful places wouldn't allow any foreigners in, every single place wouldn't allow anyone with a Hubei hukou in--no matter how long it'd been since they'd been away from Hubei. I've seen similar things on weibo and wechat about people with Hubei hukou's being pushed out of their apartments with landlords unwilling to extend leases and general mistreatment from neighbors or employers. Idk if this is just Shanghai which has a long history of making life harder for any Chinese person not from Shanghai, but I'd guess it's more widespread.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 03:18

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Great time to be from Henan.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 03:20

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Americans aren't the only ones pissed with the WHO. Basically the entire developed world is at the very least irritated with them because it's pretty much indisputable that treating the WHO as the chief authority on the pandemic ended up making the pandemic ten times worse.

Like, their guidelines in January were actively harmful to global health, and their guidelines were the way that they were because of excessive deference to China.

And of course there's the whole "when confronted on this the director of the WHO went on a long-winded rant about how racist Taiwan is"

The organization is broken at a fundamental level. Whether or not pulling funding is the best way to address that is another thing, but nobody is going to trust the WHO again for a long time.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 03:22

Ganguro King: Jul 26, 2007

golden bubble posted:

The dumbest RomCom for the dumbest timeline.

https://twitter.com/wilfredchan/status/1249813418640642048
https://twitter.com/wilfredchan/status/1249925614053834753

This is part of a larger Twitter war currently going between Thailand and China. It hasn't really worked out how the Chinese expected...

quote:

The quarrel revealed a previously unseen level of sympathy among younger Thais for the political causes of Hong Kong and Taiwan, as well as a distaste for the aggressive brand of nationalism sometimes seen from China.

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If the Thais� comments cut deep into �One-China� sensitivities, then the Chinese were left scrambling to find an effective counter-attack. Some took aim at Thailand�s eccentric and controversial King Vajiralongkorn, which would certainly have raised the hackles of more conservative Thais.

But Thai Twitter leans liberal and has been a hotbed of anti-establishment sentiment, often expressed with creative and irreverent humour. This has included unprecedented levels of public criticism of the monarchy, which not so long ago was considered untouchable. Instead of offence, the Chinese tweets mocking the Thai king were met with sarcasm and delight.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 03:32

Shrimp or Shrimps: Feb 14, 2012

Enjoying imagining a wumao army completely confounded when their precision a-HA this will show them! attack is met with the Thai equivalent of "lmao right on, bro"

# ? Apr 15, 2020 03:49

Akratic Method: Mar 9, 2013; It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

Nucken Futz posted:

There's another thing about this Covid Wuhan Winnie the Flu that really makes me salty. My favourite band's name and identity is being sullied by those incompetent twats.
There, I said it.

Well, maybe it's your fault for being in a band named "SARS-CoV-2".

# ? Apr 15, 2020 04:06

Ailumao: Nov 4, 2004

https://twitter.com/davidpaulk/status/1250254477195501568?s=20

In more china weirdness, an English language Chinese news site writes an article mostly about a grassroots push from everyday Chinese people in Guangzhou to combat racism and help displaced foreigners in Guangzhou and it's for some reason censored and not allowed to run.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 04:16

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

Magna Kaser posted:

In more china weirdness, an English language Chinese news site writes an article mostly about a grassroots push from everyday Chinese people in Guangzhou to combat racism and help displaced foreigners in Guangzhou and it's for some reason censored and not allowed to run.

Because there is no racism or foreigners in need :china:

Like that guy in r/China who posted pictures of all the homeless people near him and got banned.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 04:26

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Megillah Gorilla posted:

Like that guy in r/China who posted pictures of all the homeless people near him and got banned.

That was r/sino

# ? Apr 15, 2020 04:30

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Because there is no racism or foreigners in need

Yeah, it's this. Makes China look bad if you acknowledge reality.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 04:48

Cheesemaster200: Feb 11, 2004; Guard of the Citadel

The Chinese strategy, both in economics and foreign policy is to push their agenda by taking advantage of institutions previously established by western liberal democracies. The WHO, the WTO, the list goes on. They join these institutions, establish themselves and then play by their own rules. When other member states try to call them on it, they ignore it. That puts the liberal democracies that established the institutions in the first place in a bit of a bind. Do they kick China out and isolate them? Do they themselves leave the institution and start anew? In reality they just deal with it. This was especially true when China was less developed and less of an economic or political threat. China knows this. They know they can game the system and nobody is going to do anything. Countries like the US and western Europe have it in the head that they are the "stewards" of these organizations and aren't going to abandon them. They then tolerate the Chinese actions in the name of furthering the institution.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 04:50

Sten Freak: Sep 10, 2008; Despite all of these shortcomings, the Sten still has a long track record of shooting people right in the face.; College Slice

Cheesemaster200 posted:

The Chinese strategy, both in economics and foreign policy is to push their agenda by taking advantage of institutions previously established by western liberal democracies. The WHO, the WTO, the list goes on. They join these institutions, establish themselves and then play by their own rules. When other member states try to call them on it, they ignore it. That puts the liberal democracies that established the institutions in the first place in a bit of a bind. Do they kick China out and isolate them? Do they themselves leave the institution and start anew? In reality they just deal with it. This was especially true when China was less developed and less of an economic or political threat. China knows this. They know they can game the system and nobody is going to do anything. Countries like the US and western Europe have it in the head that they are the "stewards" of these organizations and aren't going to abandon them. They then tolerate the Chinese actions in the name of furthering the institution.

Goddamn this is spot on.

And not funding the WHO might enact change. They�re corrupt and have served up dangerous misinformation from the start of this.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 05:00

LimburgLimbo: Feb 10, 2008

Ganguro King posted:

quote:
The quarrel revealed a previously unseen level of sympathy among younger Thais for the political causes of Hong Kong and Taiwan, as well as a distaste for the aggressive brand of nationalism sometimes seen from China.

Lol at people in China thinking everyone doesn't hate them

# ? Apr 15, 2020 05:50

Vesi: Jan 12, 2005; pikachu looking at?

Magna Kaser posted:

https://twitter.com/davidpaulk/status/1250254477195501568?s=20

In more china weirdness, an English language Chinese news site writes an article mostly about a grassroots push from everyday Chinese people in Guangzhou to combat racism and help displaced foreigners in Guangzhou and it's for some reason censored and not allowed to run.

only The Party (or a single heroic individual) is permitted to do good things

# ? Apr 15, 2020 06:13

Slam Pajamas: May 21, 2007; ALL TEXT TITLE ALL-STARS

Start a rival WHO but name it World Health Agency (& Taiwan) or WHAT

# ? Apr 15, 2020 06:54

HerStuddMuffin: Aug 10, 2014; YOSPOS

Not sure what the �Y� would stand for but they should name the new agency the WHY, and not admit China in it. So they�ll be part of the no-WHY.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 07:41

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Cheesemaster200 posted:

The Chinese strategy, both in economics and foreign policy is to push their agenda by taking advantage of institutions previously established by western liberal democracies. The WHO, the WTO, the list goes on. They join these institutions, establish themselves and then play by their own rules. When other member states try to call them on it, they ignore it. That puts the liberal democracies that established the institutions in the first place in a bit of a bind. Do they kick China out and isolate them? Do they themselves leave the institution and start anew? In reality they just deal with it. This was especially true when China was less developed and less of an economic or political threat. China knows this. They know they can game the system and nobody is going to do anything. Countries like the US and western Europe have it in the head that they are the "stewards" of these organizations and aren't going to abandon them. They then tolerate the Chinese actions in the name of furthering the institution.

Yes, isolation. It has been more than clear engagement has utterly failed. If they want to save these institutions China needs to not only know it has to play by the rules breeches will be enforced. These institutions we need can be salvaged, made whole. The cancer needs to by cut out before than can happen. This would have been another prime opportunity if not for Trump.

I will say it again Trump is always right and wrong for all the wrong reasons. He pollutes what could normally be reasonable ideas he arrived at with a stopped clock by half assing, going too far, for completely the wrong reasons, inability to execute, perpetual communication breakdowns, utter lack of knowledge and wisdom all at the same time. He is Nixon's madman theory given form, it didn't work then and it hasn't worked with a real madman. If he drops dead I would be dancing on the street. It would be really helpful if :votegop:

would die also.

HerStuddMuffin posted:

Not sure what the ‘Y’ would stand for but they should name the new agency the WHY, and not admit China in it. So they’ll be part of the no-WHY.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 08:01

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

Magna Kaser posted:

https://twitter.com/davidpaulk/status/1250254477195501568?s=20

In more china weirdness, an English language Chinese news site writes an article mostly about a grassroots push from everyday Chinese people in Guangzhou to combat racism and help displaced foreigners in Guangzhou and it's for some reason censored and not allowed to run.

A grassroots push is civil society, not top down totalitarianism.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 08:05

Atopian: Sep 23, 2014; I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

oohhboy posted:

breeches will be enforced.

We tried enforcing breeches with you, but you wouldn't post them or the rest of the suit.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 09:09

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

HerStuddMuffin posted:

Not sure what the �Y� would stand for but they should name the new agency the WHY, and not admit China in it. So they�ll be part of the no-WHY.

World Health Yeet.

"Together we'll yeet disease"

# ? Apr 15, 2020 09:28

bring back old gbs: Feb 28, 2007; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

the US being part of the WHO gives it a legitimacy it clearly doesn't deserve after observing their absolute subservience to the chinese government during the COVID outbreak. gently caress the WHO. it's already beyond saving, let china have it.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 12:02

bring back old gbs: Feb 28, 2007; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

if the US wants to troll with the pros they should start a joint US/Taiwan/Hong Kong Health organization

# ? Apr 15, 2020 12:03

VikingSkull: Jan 23, 2017; Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

oohhboy posted:

Yes, isolation. It has been more than clear engagement has utterly failed. If they want to save these institutions China needs to not only know it has to play by the rules breeches will be enforced. These institutions we need can be salvaged, made whole. The cancer needs to by cut out before than can happen. This would have been another prime opportunity if not for Trump.

I will say it again Trump is always right and wrong for all the wrong reasons. He pollutes what could normally be reasonable ideas he arrived at with a stopped clock by half assing, going too far, for completely the wrong reasons, inability to execute, perpetual communication breakdowns, utter lack of knowledge and wisdom all at the same time. He is Nixon's madman theory given form, it didn't work then and it hasn't worked with a real madman. If he drops dead I would be dancing on the street. It would be really helpful if would die also.

he was the only one with an anti-China stance in the 2016 election from either party, and his opponent this time was on record mere weeks ago stating that China was cool and good

people are going to have to come to terms with that

# ? Apr 15, 2020 12:09

Shadow0: Jun 16, 2008; If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.; Grimey Drawer

Free Tibet

# ? Apr 15, 2020 12:16

SilkyP: Jul 21, 2004; The Boo-Box

Anybody white knighting Chine ITT? That is my favorite part of the China Threads along with pics of homeless ppl

# ? Apr 15, 2020 12:52

freeasinbeer: Mar 26, 2015; by Fluffdaddy

That�s the cspam thread. Usually. There is a decent amount of cross thread sniping and poo poo posting as well

# ? Apr 15, 2020 13:02

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die; Nap Ghost

if only Trump had access to some sort of intelligence briefings back in late November, December, and January that would have told him that the situation in China was more serious than was being admitted so he could have pressed the WHO to be more assertive and transparent.

instead all he did was praise Xi

but now of course all the WHO does is act as a pandemic early warning system. they have no other functions to fulfill, especially for poor and impoverished countries

and I'm also sure that if the US throws a temper tantrum and leaves, that China won't step up and become even more influential as we throw away all of ours. I'm sure Trump will be setting up a new international org any day now, instead of the US being out all alone while everyone else keeps with the WHO because we're in the middle of a crisis

https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1250207447404482565?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

but, you know, with your family guy joker avatar, sure, burn it all down and have your emotional fulfillment and little temper tantrum. congratulations, you entitled brat

bring back old gbs posted:

the US being part of the WHO gives it a legitimacy it clearly doesn't deserve after observing their absolute subservience to the chinese government during the COVID outbreak. gently caress the WHO. it's already beyond saving, let china have it.

this is such a loving stupid statement i'm not sure how you're able to breathe

# ? Apr 15, 2020 13:15

Rime: Nov 2, 2011; by Games Forum

SilkyP posted:

Anybody white knighting Chine ITT? That is my favorite part of the China Threads along with pics of homeless ppl

See:

Mozi posted:

Everything I have posted for three months is defending China.

# ? Apr 15, 2020 13:16

VikingSkull: Jan 23, 2017; Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

imagine if in December, before news of the outbreak had hit, Trump had come out and said "we have reason to believe a disease is spreading in China, based on intelligence, and as such we are restricting all travel to and from China"

he would have been 100% correct and everyone would have melted down over his tyranny and racism lmao

# ? Apr 15, 2020 13:23

SilkyP: Jul 21, 2004; The Boo-Box

Oh there it is

# ? Apr 15, 2020 13:25

LimburgLimbo: Feb 10, 2008

VikingSkull posted:

imagine if in December, before news of the outbreak had hit, Trump had come out and said "we have reason to believe a disease is spreading in China, based on intelligence, and as such we are restricting all travel to and from China"

he would have been 100% correct and everyone would have melted down over his tyranny and racism lmao

lol you actually believe this

# ? Apr 15, 2020 13:42

VikingSkull: Jan 23, 2017; Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

LimburgLimbo posted:

lol you actually believe this

you're right, I remember all those other times Trump did something right and everyone agreed with him and didn't melt down, like that one time he bombed Syria

# ? Apr 15, 2020 13:47

LimburgLimbo: Feb 10, 2008

VikingSkull posted:

you're right, I remember all those other times Trump did something right and everyone agreed with him and didn't melt down, like that one time he bombed Syria

uuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh man I got some bad news for you

# ? Apr 15, 2020 13:48

VikingSkull: Jan 23, 2017; Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

LimburgLimbo posted:

uuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh man I got some bad news for you

I'm pointing out that the only time the media ever unanimously agreed with Trump is when he bombed brown people

it's satire

# ? Apr 15, 2020 13:50

LimburgLimbo: Feb 10, 2008

VikingSkull posted:

I'm pointing out that the only time the media ever unanimously agreed with Trump is when he bombed brown people

it's satire

I'd otherwise assume you're just playing a bit but you probably are actually this dumb

# ? Apr 15, 2020 14:02

VikingSkull: Jan 23, 2017; Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.