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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Angry_Ed posted:

Nice job doing a 180 on your position that Trump should be impeached.

I did think Trump should be impeached, and I still do. I really, really wish the Democratic leadership hadn't botched it as badly as they did.

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marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

I was sick of looking
at your stupid avatar
so
have a cool cat instead.

:v:
Switchblade Switcharoo
Should we all take turns announcing how we plan to vote

Maybe we can put up a poll so the nojoe crowd can feel represented

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Majorian posted:

Yes, I'm sure Hunter Biden will never be used as a cudgel against his dad again in this election. Well done, Pelosi. Slay kween, etc.

look I’m not shocked this went over your head but the point is that you claimed trump has barely started to attack Biden and that is obviously not true given the incredibly visible impeachment of which you were aware triggered by his attempts to manufacture a scandal re: Biden. you were factually wrong in a way that should be obvious. I could address the obvious flaws with the enthusiasm point (hint: the results of the primaries) but given that just points re: basic timelines seem complex it seems not worth the time

skeleton warrior
Nov 12, 2016


Al-Saqr posted:

Wow dude better get phone banking and start hitting the pavement for Biden then since Biden obviously doesnt need any socialists or leftists at all and will clearly go against what his corporate backers and means-testing consultants and what the DNC orders him to do as he slowly forgets his daughters name while slurping on porridge and remembering the good old days when he could scream at blacks for riding the wrong bus to school.

Also Biden wont ever do anything anywhere near what's needed to stave off climate catastrophe so it's mostly choosing between crashing at a different speed than trump is.

So, "making the world a better place" doesn't actually matter to you? It's either all of the progress immediately or it's okay to just let it all rot? Good to see you're a real socialist, then.

Me, I've got kids, so I'd kind of like to see them have a better world.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Majorian posted:

I did think Trump should be impeached, and I still do. I really, really wish the Democratic leadership hadn't botched it as badly as they did.

Botched how? Did you really think there was any way the GOP was going to finally turn on him?

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

skeleton warrior posted:

That's just a start, but I'm sure your response will be "Biden won't do any of that" because actually admitting that Democrats are different from Republicans is anathema to your brain worms

a Joe Biden who arose fully formed from the aether about fifteen seconds ago might be believable! the one whose legislative history is an unbroken string of cruelties committed by the powerful against the weak, on the grounds that because their suffering might enrich Joe Biden's good friends, and therefore they must be crushed?

for some reason there's a credibility gap when he says "yeah sure I'll try to undo some of the awful poo poo I've done, also I marched with Nelson Mandela"

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

marshmonkey posted:

Should we all take turns announcing how we plan to vote

I'm going to vote by filling out a form with a pencil, probably at my desk if I can vote by mail or at the nearest public school if I have to go in person.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

mycomancy posted:

Who gives a gently caress? Trump is a crime elemental and should have been impeached for a thousand other reasons.

when you claim that trump hasn’t even attacked Biden it is rather relevant in making clear that’s a hilariously wrong argument. he’s been doing it for over a year and been using the power of the presidency to try to blackmail countries into helping him. this is not some “you have not even seen my final form!” thing.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Angry_Ed posted:

Botched how? Did you really think there was any way the GOP was going to finally turn on him?

it could have been on something literally anyone cared about, as opposed to "how -DARE- you go after one of our fuckup kids' no-show jobs"

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Angry_Ed posted:

Lol you think Trump's investigation was on the level.
It wasn't. It was a squabble among politicians who are all hopelessly corrupt.

Gadfly
Dec 21, 2018

"It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact."

evilweasel posted:

when you claim that trump hasn’t even attacked Biden it is rather relevant in making clear that’s a hilariously wrong argument. he’s been doing it for over a year and been using the power of the presidency to try to blackmail countries into helping him. this is not some “you have not even seen my final form!” thing.

Do you have any concerns regarding the rape accusations made against Biden and how Trump will use that?

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Halloween Jack posted:

It wasn't. It was a squabble among politicians who are all hopelessly corrupt.

Ah yes the hopeless corruption of *checks notes* getting a corrupt prosecutor general fired for not investigating Burisma.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

evilweasel posted:

look I’m not shocked this went over your head but the point is that you claimed trump has barely started to attack Biden and that is obviously not true

It actually really, really is. Hunter's the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what Trump is going to bring down on Biden.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

evilweasel posted:

when you claim that trump hasn’t even attacked Biden it is rather relevant in making clear that’s a hilariously wrong argument. he’s been doing it for over a year and been using the power of the presidency to try to blackmail countries into helping him. this is not some “you have not even seen my final form!” thing.

the idea you have seen everything you are going to see from Trump re: the senile, corrupt rapist who has been set against him is possibly the most naive thing I have seen yet

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
Who was the goon that said this place was toxic and goons started saying it was him, not them?

Yeah, those that yanked on him for it, read the last two pages of this thread, there's some serious need of probes to calm people the gently caress down

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Lol

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1250448803565580288

How many other names on the list are just like this?

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Mat Cauthon posted:

You can check the status of your corona bux here: https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/get-my-payment

The site is understandably getting slammed right now, so don't expect it to work on the first try.

Really hoping "Can't determine eligibility" is it not working.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Angry_Ed posted:

Ah yes the hopeless corruption of *checks notes* getting a corrupt prosecutor general fired for not investigating Burisma.

are you under the impression that a crackhead who washed out of the navy by pissing hot for cocaine got a Ukranian oil company board seat legitimately

is this an argument you are going to make, and expect to be treated as a good faith interlocutor

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

skeleton warrior posted:

So, "making the world a better place" doesn't actually matter to you? It's either all of the progress immediately or it's okay to just let it all rot? Good to see you're a real socialist, then.

Me, I've got kids, so I'd kind of like to see them have a better world.

I love this rapist hostage situation you've got going on where you actively deny people the opportunity to have a better world and actively fight progressives tooth and nail and undermine them and slander them and cheat against them all in order to protect the interests of people WHO HAVE A COMPLETE OPPOSITE INTEREST TO THAT BETTER WORLD and then you gaslight them with your little act of 'I just want progress man' when you and I both know that Biden and Obama have worked overtime to prevent that better world from coming and wont even concede anything of real value. You've had eight years of Obama proving beyond a shadow of a doubt who he works for and how little of a poo poo he gives about you and you. Bidens entire life and career was dedicated to everything wrong in this country, you're asking me to believe people who have decades of evil and cruelty under their belts and ignore everything they've ever done in their lives. I'm sure Obama "I made America Oil Independent and literally saved wall street" gives a flying gently caress about the environment and your kids dude.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Xombie posted:

Did you owe taxes last year too? We owed this year but not last year and I got my DD today.

I owed last year and I owe this year and have not paid/finished filing. Does this mean I won't get it? :/

Eminai
Apr 29, 2013

I agree with Dante, that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Lol

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1250448803565580288

How many other names on the list are just like this?

drat, Pete changed teams fast.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

Al-Saqr posted:

I love this rapist hostage situation you've got going on where you actively deny people the opportunity to have a better world and actively fight progressives tooth and nail and undermine them and slander them and cheat against them all in order to protect the interests of people WHO HAVE A COMPLETE OPPOSITE INTEREST TO THAT BETTER WORLD and then you gaslight them with your little act of 'I just want progress man' when you and I both know that Biden and Obama have worked overtime to prevent that better world from coming and wont even concede anything of real value. You've had eight years of Obama proving beyond a shadow of a doubt who he works for and how little of a poo poo he gives about you and you. I'm sure Obama "I made America Oil Independent and literally saved wall street" gives a flying gently caress about the environment and your kids dude.

Perhaps the whole thing has to burn to the ground before we'll have a chance to actually improve anything....

The above sounds like a prelude to accelerationism.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Lol

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1250448803565580288

How many other names on the list are just like this?

My guess is most of them. Cuban sucks but I doubt he is joining trumps open early club. Same with a lot of the others.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

mycomancy posted:

pro-birth Democrat
Is that a new term I need to learn or just a very odd slip of the tongue?

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Framboise posted:

I owed last year and I owe this year and have not paid/finished filing. Does this mean I won't get it? :/

Check the website. I owed last year and that meant, for some reason, that they didn't have my direct deposit information even though I had money deposited from the 2018 return before that AND I paid what I owed through my checking account directly with IRS website.

The website asked me to enter my Direct Deposit info. I don't believe anything will hold it up except for time.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Dapper_Swindler posted:

My guess is most of them. Cuban sucks but I doubt he is joining trumps open early club. Same with a lot of the others.

:lol:

Who wants to bet Vince McMahon is the only one on the "Council" who even wants to be? :allears:

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

DandyLion posted:

Perhaps the whole thing has to burn to the ground before we'll have a chance to actually improve anything....

The above sounds like a prelude to accelerationism.

I'm not accelerating anything I'm just pointing out who's doing what, you want to believe barack obama and biden? go ahead, but PLEASE dont get shocked when 6 months into Bidens presidency none of his promises materialize and the kinds are still in concentration camps and people have to pick between having health or money to feed themselves, and please dont be shocked when tom cotton or another psycho fascist wins in 2024. It's the DNC who are accelerating the death spiral not me.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

STAC Goat posted:

Is that a new term I need to learn or just a very odd slip of the tongue?

It's been around for a few years IIRC. Not SUPER common, but it is a pretty fair distinction to make - "pro-life" isn't actually pro-life, etc.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Al-Saqr posted:

I love this rapist hostage situation you've got going on where you actively deny people the opportunity to have a better world and actively fight progressives tooth and nail and undermine them and slander them and cheat against them all in order to protect the interests of people WHO HAVE A COMPLETE OPPOSITE INTEREST TO THAT BETTER WORLD and then you gaslight them with your little act of 'I just want progress man' when you and I both know that Biden and Obama have worked overtime to prevent that better world from coming and wont even concede anything of real value. You've had eight years of Obama proving beyond a shadow of a doubt who he works for and how little of a poo poo he gives about you and you. Bidens entire life and career was dedicated to everything wrong in this country, you're asking me to believe people who have decades of evil and cruelty under their belts and ignore everything they've ever done in their lives. I'm sure Obama "I made America Oil Independent and literally saved wall street" gives a flying gently caress about the environment and your kids dude.

Obama-era changes to student loans are the only way that I am able to pay them currently. Without the IDR cap I would be literally broke.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Oh Snapple! posted:

Really hoping "Can't determine eligibility" is it not working.


Doctor Butts posted:

Check the website. I owed last year and that meant, for some reason, that they didn't have my direct deposit information even though I had money deposited from the 2018 return before that.

In my case, I just had to enter my Direct Deposit information.

quote:

Payment Status Not Available
According to information that we have on file, we cannot determine your eligibility for a payment at this time.

For more information on the eligibility rules, see our Frequently Asked Questions page.

It's not even letting me give any additional information.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

STAC Goat posted:

Is that a new term I need to learn or just a very odd slip of the tongue?

it's one of those occasional rebrand-from-the-left attempts you get

they're pro-birth. as you could learn from asking Joe Biden whether you should die on his behalf in Illinois, and Florida, and Wisconsin, they have a very different stance on life.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Framboise posted:

I owed last year and I owe this year and have not paid/finished filing. Does this mean I won't get it? :/

They're using last year's and this years info for testing them, but have you ever had your direct deposit info on file? They may use that, but if they don't I imagine you'll have to be one of the people to input it.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Dapper_Swindler posted:

My guess is most of them. Cuban sucks but I doubt he is joining trumps open early club. Same with a lot of the others.

Cuban confirmed he is in an advisory role and despite my recalling he didn't like Trump he apparently at one point earlier this year he idly said he wouldn't mind being his VP so :barf:

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



Oh Snapple! posted:

Really hoping "Can't determine eligibility" is it not working.

Been getting the same message all morning. I think my wife and I will still get it regardless of if they use the return from 2018 (when I was working a handful of poo poo jobs) or 2019 (when I was a student) but who knows.

We're okay for right now, I'm not sweating it.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Majorian posted:

It's been around for a few years IIRC. Not SUPER common, but it is a pretty fair distinction to make - "pro-life" isn't actually pro-life, etc.

I don't disagree that "pro-life" is a pretty intellectually dishonest spin label. But I'm not sure "pro-birth" is much clearer or gets across the message most want to be going for.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Framboise posted:

It's not even letting me give any additional information.

Sorry. How long ago did you submit your 2019 return and was it done electronically?

I'm not sure I can really help but it may just be a timing thing.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

Al-Saqr posted:

Wow dude better get phone banking and start hitting the pavement for Biden then since Biden obviously doesnt need any socialists or leftists at all and will clearly go against what his corporate backers and means-testing consultants and what the DNC orders him to do as he slowly forgets his daughters name while slurping on porridge and remembering the good old days when he could scream at blacks for riding the wrong bus to school.

Also Biden wont ever do anything anywhere near what's needed to stave off climate catastrophe so it's mostly choosing between crashing at a different speed than trump is.

Alright you know what, gently caress you.

You think anybody in this forum is happy Biden won? That Sanders and his ideas for a brighter future were rejected by an electorate more concerned about who pays for what and who deserves things like income and healthcare? It loving sucks! It all loving sucks! We're all trapped inside with a goddamn pandemic raging across the globe, many with jobs lost or delayed in part because the current administration is so incompetent and malicious it would rather have each and every one of us die than see the dow go down a single point. We're living on a dying planet where natural beauties and wonders are wiped out every day over human greed and stupidity, and there may not even be a planet worth living on in the next century. And you think nobody knows this?!

Biden loving sucks, the party loving sucks, for a variety of reasons we can argue about until we all die from lead poisoning. Nobody in the Democratic Party is going to save this country, and this includes Sanders. But you know what loving sucks more? When assholes like you shout from your righteous soapbox that the very real differences between them and the Republicans don't matter. You loving rear end in a top hat, I know people who were put at risk over this crisis because Trump's corrupt Secretary of the Interior wouldn't shut down National Parks. Everyone knows someone or were themselves effected in some way by the callous and cruel acts of this administration. And you have the loving gall to sit there and tell me that the health and safety of my coworkers doesn't loving matter? Telling people who are reluctantly voting for Biden that they're dogshit or worse for wanting something better than what we have now, as weak as that improvement may be?

You don't have a monopoly on anger. Nobody does. We're all angry and we're all disappointed. So get off your goddamn high horse and don't take it out on people who want to make the best of the poo poo we've got.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Doctor Butts posted:

Sorry. How long ago did you submit your 2019 return and was it done electronically?

I'm not sure I can really help but it may just be a timing.

I haven't submitted my 2019 return yet because I owe and hell if I'm letting them have my money until absolutely necessary.

I did submit my 2018 return last year though. I have never not submitted electronically, and I have the documents to back it up.

I just can't help but feel like I'm getting screwed here.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Framboise posted:

It's not even letting me give any additional information.

Yup that's the message I'm getting :/

Mat Cauthon posted:

Been getting the same message all morning. I think my wife and I will still get it regardless of if they use the return from 2018 (when I was working a handful of poo poo jobs) or 2019 (when I was a student) but who knows.

We're okay for right now, I'm not sweating it.

Yeah I'm trying to take care of this for my mom who is not working and really needs the money so this is a hiccup we didn't need.

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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Alright you know what, gently caress you.

You don't have a monopoly on anger. Nobody does. We're all angry and we're all disappointed. So get off your goddamn high horse and don't take it out on people who want to make the best of the poo poo we've got.

You know what? Ok. You're right. I'll go cool off.

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