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Craptacular! posted:February: Fact is, Bernie has consistently supported preogressive ideas and fought for oppressed people’s since before I was born. now that bernie isn't up for running everyone is fine with taking a vague 'interview' at face value; one that ditches a direct transcript in favor of attaching its own context to everything. the guy's statement is easily read the other way as "she's not under my payroll, [so she doesn't have to answer to me]" in response to the question, and we don't actually know if he had more to say on the subject or not. then the interview is written to wrap that statement in between "OPPOSING BIDEN IS IRRESPONSIBLE" there's no reason to fall for that kind of reporting
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The same shitlibs who are praising Bernie's leadership and urging everyone to listen to him are the same ones who were telling him to gently caress off forever just a few days ago.
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Apr 15, 2020 11:32
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It's okay to be disappointed in Bernie because he is, ultimately, endorsing a rapist for political reasons.
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Apr 15, 2020 11:40
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Pleasant Friend posted:It's okay to be disappointed in Bernie because he is, ultimately, endorsing a rapist for political reasons.
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Apr 15, 2020 11:46
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Glass of Milk posted:As opposed to say, Barr, Pruitt or DeVos, who have been stellar. If Obama had made good appointments and properly reacted to the recession Donald Trump would not be president.
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Apr 15, 2020 12:05
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Pleasant Friend posted:It's okay to be disappointed in Bernie because he is, ultimately, endorsing a rapist for political reasons. no you see I've been casting you as a bernie cultist for the entire primary how hypocritical of you to not live up to the caricature i've constructed in my head
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Apr 15, 2020 12:07
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Condiv posted:no you see I've been casting you as a bernie cultist for the entire primary It's not just Bernie supporters. Pretty much the whole liberal worldview is based around a set of caricatures they've constructed in their head from The West Wing with no real relation to reality, the Baileys only being the start of it. Their idea of what Republicans are, what swing voters are, and what Bernie supporters are have little to no relation to the real thing, and so they continue to be blindsided by reality not conforming to their expectations.
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Apr 15, 2020 12:10
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Biden ultimately winning the primary is pretty disappointing, here's hoping that at least some of Bernie's platform will rub off on his campaign by the time the convention rolls around. I'm really curious as to who his VP pick will be.
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Apr 15, 2020 12:16
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Isn’t the Obama administration responsible for the charter school boom? I finally caught up to this page, but it was something that drove me crazy about ImpAtom’s justification. ImpAtom: national Democrats have been working to destroy public schooling, why are you so ardently supporting them? I think people keep forgetting that Obama was doing a lot of the same stuff as Trump, he just didn’t say the quiet part loud.
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Apr 15, 2020 12:47
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Yeah people forget that Obama oversaw the mass killing of the Ferguson protest movement and the assasination of its leadership lol he easily could’ve ended the drug war and saved millions of black people from prison but chose not to lol
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Apr 15, 2020 12:50
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Al-Saqr posted:Yeah people forget that Obama oversaw the mass killing of the Ferguson protest movement and the assasination of its leadership lol he easily could’ve ended the drug war and saved millions of black people from prison but chose not to lol evilweasel posted:Obama was a great president and hating Obama is generally a sign of terminal brain worms. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 15, 2020 12:51
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the_steve posted:The same shitlibs who are praising Bernie's leadership and urging everyone to listen to him are the same ones who were telling him to gently caress off forever just a few days ago. Its cute that they're even doing this, they can't seriously believe that'll work. They didn't even bother deleting their old tweets like they did with their #metoo stuff.
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Apr 15, 2020 14:42
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Vichan posted:Biden ultimately winning the primary is pretty disappointing, here's hoping that at least some of Bernie's platform will rub off on his campaign by the time the convention rolls around. I'm really curious as to who his VP pick will be. “Hopefully will rub off on his campaign” is the reason so many leftists are upset. You don’t declare fealty to the man and then hope he’ll help you out, he has no reason to,you just swore to help him no matter what. You become an undecided voter, there’s nothing the dems love more than catering to undecided voters
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Apr 15, 2020 14:43
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Boywhiz88 posted:Isn’t the Obama administration responsible for the charter school boom? Not solely responsible but his Secretary of Education did a whole lot to exacerbate it.
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Apr 15, 2020 14:58
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ColonelMuttonchops posted:Its cute that they're even doing this, they can't seriously believe that'll work. They didn't even bother deleting their old tweets like they did with their #metoo stuff. At the very least this makes it seem like they're not 100% confident they can win with the entire left sitting this one out. They're not forced to even do this much pretending, yet for some reason they are
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Apr 15, 2020 15:07
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Groovelord Neato posted:If Obama had made good appointments and properly reacted to the recession Donald Trump would not be president. Trump is Obama's legacy. They should put a Trump Wing in that museum he's crushing a poor community to build.
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Apr 15, 2020 15:11
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the_steve posted:The same shitlibs who are praising Bernie's leadership and urging everyone to listen to him are the same ones who were telling him to gently caress off forever just a few days ago. Really makes you wonder who the true Bernie Bros are
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Apr 15, 2020 15:12
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RBA Starblade posted:Really makes you wonder who the true Bernie Bros are Bernie has proven himself undeserving of his horde or bros, so now we leave to bro it up with someone else.
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Apr 15, 2020 15:15
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The NYT article being the one about Joe's doing some rape?
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Apr 15, 2020 15:27
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That's a great move for her. Wicked Them Beats posted:Trump is Obama's legacy. They should put a Trump Wing in that museum he's crushing a poor community to build. 
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best part of obamas legacy was never fixing flints water and proving it by drinking bottled water he said was from flint that or gitmo and the drones i guess
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Apr 15, 2020 15:52
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:The NYT article being the one about Joe's doing some rape? This one, about how she plans to support Biden but wants him to support more progressive policies: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/us/politics/aoc-progressives-joe-biden.html
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Craptacular! posted:February: Fact is, Bernie has consistently supported preogressive ideas and fought for oppressed people’s since before I was born. My dude, please reread this post again: Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:the idea of believing in ideas, and not in personalities, is fundamentally anathema to the liberal The fact Bernie is getting savaged by his supporters now completely shatters the juvenile MSNBC/Joy Reid myth of a Bernie personality cult. If Bernie is going to campaign for a rightwing, segregationist rapist instead of policies like Medicare For All, then gently caress him forever.
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imagine a world where I wasn’t kind and perma”d him instead of making his rich rear end pay $10 to post again
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Terror Sweat posted:“Hopefully will rub off on his campaign” is the reason so many leftists are upset. You don’t declare fealty to the man and then hope he’ll help you out, he has no reason to,you just swore to help him no matter what. You become an undecided voter, there’s nothing the dems love more than catering to undecided voters Good point, I definitely understand the anger. I would probably be seething if I was American.
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Don't forget Obama's legacy of enriching not only himself but all the ghouls that worked for him. Jay Carney helping amazon slander the worker they fired because he dared complain about work safety. Gina McCarthy, the last EPA administrator, joining Pegasus Capital Advisors Eric Holder joining Convington and Burling, which represents most of the banks he never prosecuted Dan Pfeiffer, VP at gofundme Josh Earnest, VP at united airlines Tim Geithner, VP at a private equity fund that does predatory loans and on and on and on....
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Apr 15, 2020 16:21
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The Dark Project posted:Nah, not going to happen. we already have total conservative control of the government because both parties are conservative.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:imagine a world where I wasn’t kind and perma”d him instead of making his rich rear end pay $10 to post again It would've just gotten reversed like leons.
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Apr 15, 2020 16:32
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Not that it should be newsworthy, but Warren endorsed Biden lol.
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It isn't revisionism to say that Warren never mattered, right? Like that is an accurate historical analysis of her role in American politics?
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Groovelord Neato posted:If Obama had made good appointments and properly reacted to the recession Donald Trump would not be president. I don't disagree. But there's poo poo choices that perpetuate the in-place economic and societal inequity, and then there's actively deleterious ones who exacerbate it. That's all my point is. Obama's appointments let the building burn, but Trump's are throwing fuel on the fire.
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Vichan posted:Biden ultimately winning the primary is pretty disappointing, here's hoping that at least some of Bernie's platform will rub off on his campaign by the time the convention rolls around. I'm really curious as to who his VP pick will be. You must not be this naive. Biden is wholly owned by his donors and the donors to the democratic party. They don't want progressive policies. Therefore we will not get them. Its why I'm not voting for Biden. His policies are republican lite. I just don't vote for republicans or rapists.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It isn't revisionism to say that Warren never mattered, right? Like that is an accurate historical analysis of her role in American politics? Most of the things people know her for are theatrics. cool lines and moments where she looked good. so I guess perpetuating the idea that politics is like the West Wing is her biggest achievement
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ManBoyChef posted:You must not be this naive. Biden is wholly owned by his donors and the donors to the democratic party. They don't want progressive policies. Therefore we will not get them. Its why I'm not voting for Biden. His policies are republican lite. I just don't vote for republicans or rapists. Nah its fine, Bernie just needs to be the last man in the room every single time, so he can mold joes mushy brain like a fine clay. Pretty cool that so many of our political leaders are gullible, thoughtless dipshits, on top of being evil.
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Lol @ Elizabeth Warren's entire life and career which has been a seemingly endless stream of dishonesty and walking back everything she's ever claimed to believe, ever Just... Lol
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It isn't revisionism to say that Warren never mattered, right? Like that is an accurate historical analysis of her role in American politics? She mattered insofar as her various petty betrayals probably contributed to Bernie losing the nomination, though now it’s clear that she shouldn’t have bothered since the DNC was going to make him lose anyway. That’s basically it though, unless someone wants to seriously claim the CFPB has been a meaningful force in American life. Her entire career has led up to eating poo poo in a presidential primary to prevent any of the policies she ran on to ever come to pass.
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I dunno about you guys, but I'm looking forward to the elizabeth warren branded Warren Democrats becoming a major force for change in this country.
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ColonelMuttonchops posted:Its cute that they're even doing this, they can't seriously believe that'll work. They didn't even bother deleting their old tweets like they did with their #metoo stuff. They honestly remind me of, well I keep wanting to say Angelica from that old Rugrats cartoon, but really any screaming toddler. Libs: *want something, are told no because it's a rapist* I HATE YOU, I HATE YOU FOREVER, BERNIE IS SO MEAN TO ME AND I HATE HIM AND I HOPE HE DIES Libs: *in the same breath after being capitulated to once again* I love you! You've always been my favorite! You're the best! Flying-PCP posted:At the very least this makes it seem like they're not 100% confident they can win with the entire left sitting this one out. They're not forced to even do this much pretending, yet for some reason they are They know they can't. They knew it in 16 as well. We all already know the playbook though. They're not going to offer leftists anything, instead, it's going to be a massive gaslighting campaign to guilt us into holding our nose and voting Joe. They will never adopt any progressive policies, all they're going to offer us is "gently caress you, vote for Joe or else you're a goddamn Nazi Trump lover." A4R8 posted:The fact Bernie is getting savaged by his supporters now completely shatters the juvenile MSNBC/Joy Reid myth of a Bernie personality cult. If Bernie is going to campaign for a rightwing, segregationist rapist instead of policies like Medicare For All, then gently caress him forever. In a world where people actually retain information and use previous experience to notice present behaviors, yes, this would be true. What's actually going to happen is that MSNBC and the like are going to immediately pivot and retcon. BernieBros will be rebranded as some new name, but will still be slandered the same way as spoiled children and angry wannabe socialists who won't be happy no matter how many olive branches the poor Dem Party sends our way. Antifa Turkeesian posted:It isn't revisionism to say that Warren never mattered, right? Like that is an accurate historical analysis of her role in American politics? Yes and no. She definitely helped play the part of a spoiler to try to undercut Bernie, but she definitely wasn't the biggest knife in his back, just one of many. When future historians sift through the wreckage and attempt to reconstruct history, she will just be another bullet point in a list of things that were done in the greater goal of stopping progress. If this were a movie, she'd be the dupe who betrays the heroes because she was promised wealth and power for herself if she did so, only to be discarded as soon as the bad guys get what they wanted. "But you promised me the VP spot!" "And you were dumb enough to believe it. Now you know how regular voters feel."
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