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Jarmak posted:Wait you think a the rich white son of the vice president of the United States who has served on multiple boards and in multiple senior exec positions in multiple large law firms, holding companies and lobbying firms (including founding a firm) couldn't get picked for a board seat because at one point he got caught doing cocaine? Hunter Biden has never had a job that wasn't a direct result of his father being one of the more powerful Senators in this country and then the Vice President. You can call it soft nepotism or whatever if that makes you feel better about it but it's not different than what Trump and his fail children are doing except that Trump is willing to be more blatant about it. Beau was supposed to be the heir apparent and the one who actually had a somewhat legit looking work record, too bad the brain cancer got him. Jarmak posted:Also cocaine can be picked up in urine for 3 days for normal users and up to 2 weeks for habitual users If privates in the Army can figure out how not to piss hot then the wealthy son of a Senator should be able to do it too. Officers know ahead of time when the drug test is coming, so that he couldn't even lay off for two weeks speaks volumes. The guy just didn't care and assumed his name would shield him from accountability. That it didn't is the real surprise. Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:it's a very good attack in the But Her Emails vein for precisely the reason it generates dumb defenses like this Bingo.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:why no! Yeah but have you considered that he got the experience necessary for that corruption job through getting a series of other corruption jobs throughout his life? This proves how not corrupt it was
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Gadfly posted:Do you have any concerns regarding the rape accusations made against Biden and how Trump will use that? Yes. But under the circumstances I haven’t researched it enough to discuss it intelligently and it’s certainly not a subject i want to be uninformed about when discussing. The one thing I’d note on the subject is there’s plenty of time to force him to withdraw if needed (preferably before but possibly after the convention) and replace him which is an option that seems not to get discussed at all and I’m not really sure why.
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evilweasel posted:Yes. But under the circumstances I haven’t researched it enough to discuss it intelligently and it’s certainly not a subject i want to be uninformed about when discussing. The one thing I’d note on the subject is there’s plenty of time to force him to withdraw if needed (preferably before but possibly after the convention) and replace him which is an option that seems not to get discussed at all and I’m not really sure why. mostly because people are petrified of who they replace at that point latest polling has it that most democrats would be in favor of ditching biden and replacing with Cuomo, so, lol
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Majorian posted:Well, the first "because" is debatable. The second has some truth in it, but you flat-out said, and I quote, a "socialist revolution that will never actually come to pass." That's a fundamentally different claim from "you shouldn't frame your movement in terms of full socialist revolution being the only hope." Are you talking about a socialist revolution, IE "the workers owning and controlling the means of production" or are you talking about the conservative definition of socialism, IE "The State Doing a Thing". I'm not a conservative so I don't consider the state to be doing a thing socialism and you talk to most "socialists" and what they want is a functioning capitalistic state like Denmark, Sweden, Norway or Minnesota.
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Mat Cauthon posted:Hunter Biden has never had a job that wasn't a direct result of his father being one of the more powerful Senators in this country and then the Vice President. You can call it soft nepotism or whatever if that makes you feel better about it but it's not different than what Trump and his fail children are doing except that Trump is willing to be more blatant about it. It literally isn't, though. Having an unfair economic advantage due to your parents' wealth and status isn't what "nepotism" is. You're getting to the point of just ignoring what concepts and words are. Trump is literally hiring his children into the administration, in violation of the law, putting them into important jobs that they're too incompetent to do and now it's killing people. You'd have to be insane to think that these things are remotely in the same wheelhouse. Hunter Biden having a cushy board position is on par with Ivanka Trump having a lovely fashion line. Not on par with Jared Kushner getting to supercede the Centers for Disease Control on policy for a worldwide pandemic.
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Apr 15, 2020 17:53
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This stupid Michigan protest succeeded in blocking an ambulance. https://twitter.com/kevinmkruse/status/1250459359471165440?s=21
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This is only going to get worse as places can no longer do tests, leading to morons continuously thinking "number's not going up so it must be over"  FlamingLiberal posted:This stupid Michigan protest succeeded in blocking an ambulance. I don't want to be on this show anymore. 
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Arglebargle III posted:This is a chapo take but there's nothing illegal or even stupid about a Ukrainian natural gas firm with zero name recognition paying a Biden just to have someone with the name Biden on their board. All they're doing is signaling to potential investors and clients that they are a real company. the real thing is hunter is absolutely a fuckup at best but people trying to smear Biden are generally hoping you’ll overlook that hunter Biden is not Joe Biden and theres zero evidence for (and immense evidence against) any wrongdoing by joe in the burisma poo poo.
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Mat Cauthon posted:Hunter Biden has never had a job that wasn't a direct result of his father being one of the more powerful Senators in this country and then the Vice President. You can call it soft nepotism or whatever if that makes you feel better about it but it's not different than what Trump and his fail children are doing except that Trump is willing to be more blatant about it. That's an unfalsifiable statement that just sounds right in your gut because it's convenient to your argument . He graduated from Georgetown and Yale Law and has a career trajectory not unusual for someone coming from that background. Also yeah, popping hot for cocaine is dumb, but to act like thats disqualifying to people in that world is just loving silly, also it was a gimmick Navy Reserve commission that occurred after he already had a substantial resume. And yeah, that's not what "buying influence" means, not even close.
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evilweasel posted:the real thing is hunter is absolutely a fuckup at best but people trying to smear Biden are generally hoping you’ll overlook that hunter Biden is not Joe Biden and theres zero evidence for (and immense evidence against) any wrongdoing by joe in the burisma poo poo. B-b-b-but he got a prosecutor general fired
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Apr 15, 2020 17:56
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Jarmak posted:That's an unfalsifiable statement that just sounds right in your gut because it's convenient to your argument . He graduated from Georgetown and Yale Law and has a career trajectory not unusual for someone coming from that background. Its also the reason why privatized education in all of its forms should be destroyed but good luck convincing the neoliberal "socialists" of that.
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Jarmak posted:Wait you think a the rich white son of the vice president of the United States who has served on multiple boards and in multiple senior exec positions in multiple large law firms, holding companies and lobbying firms (including founding a firm) couldn't get picked for a board seat because at one point he got caught doing cocaine? lmao are you trying to argue Hunter Biden was qualified? for fun, apply this same argument to Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, they've both served on multiple boards so thank god there's no nepotism involved in their appointments at all
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karthun posted:Are you talking about a socialist revolution, IE "the workers owning and controlling the means of production" or are you talking about the conservative definition of socialism, IE "The State Doing a Thing". I'm not a conservative so I don't consider the state to be doing a thing socialism and you talk to most "socialists" and what they want is a functioning capitalistic state like Denmark, Sweden, Norway or Minnesota. I mean, I'm a Marxist, so I'm for option A over option B as an endpoint (ie: communism over socialism). But we may have to try social democracy before we can get to communism, which was what the bet was with Sanders for a lot of us. On the other hand, this primary cycle may have shown us that the powers that be won't allow social democracy anymore, even at an FDR level, so they may be making an actual revolution more likely.
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VitalSigns posted:lmao are you trying to argue Hunter Biden was qualified? Your problem with Jared and Ivanka is that the private boards they served on?
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The worst thing about hunter biden's pathetic, run of the mill failson corruption is it runs cover for Don Jr., Ivanka, Eric, and Jared's real world, mind blowing grift and corruption. I assume Barron is running some WoW gold grift scheme or something.
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FlamingLiberal posted:This stupid Michigan protest succeeded in blocking an ambulance. https://twitter.com/balladreview/status/1250459865035739138?s=20
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Majorian posted:I mean, I'm a Marxist, so I'm for option A over option B as an endpoint (ie: communism over socialism). But we may have to try social democracy before we can get to communism, which was what the bet was with Sanders for a lot of us. Sorry, I like the existence of the State to provide me services like healthcare and education.
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FlamingLiberal posted:This stupid Michigan protest succeeded in blocking an ambulance. where is trauma team international when you need them. like we already live in hell world. where are my heavily armed paramedics.
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Xombie posted:Your problem with Jared and Ivanka is that the private boards they served on? ....no
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Xombie posted:It literally isn't, though. Having an unfair economic advantage due to your parents' wealth and status isn't what "nepotism" is. You're getting to the point of just ignoring what concepts and words are. Trump is literally hiring his children into the administration, in violation of the law, putting them into important jobs that they're too incompetent to do and now it's killing people. You'd have to be insane to think that these things are remotely in the same wheelhouse. if your sole objection to what Trump is doing is that he's not observing the proper forms, this is consistent. if you object to people using their positions of wealth and power to enrich friends and family over qualified candidates, on the grounds "gently caress you, i'm a better class of person than you," this is a weak dodge and immediately recognizable as such
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karthun posted:Sorry, I like the existence of the State to provide me services like healthcare and education.
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FizFashizzle posted:The worst thing about hunter biden's pathetic, run of the mill failson corruption is it runs cover for Don Jr., Ivanka, Eric, and Jared's real world, mind blowing grift and corruption. No, that was bannon. Won't fault you for getting them confused, though.
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Xombie posted:Did you use this page? Is there a fast and effortless way to change your dd information if they have one on file? I tried making an IRS online account but it's a massive pain in the rear end
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Apr 15, 2020 18:02
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VitalSigns posted:lmao are you trying to argue Hunter Biden was qualified? Neither Jared Kushner nor Ivanka Trump have had a substantial job in their entire lives that weren't working for their fathers' businesses.
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Jarmak posted:Neither Jared Kushner nor Ivanka Trump have had any substantial job in their entirely life that wasn't working for their father's business. why doesn't that make them qualified then? your argument that Hunter Biden was qualified was that his daddy's name had gotten him jobs before
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LorneReams posted:So that second amendment helped your protest...how? he's saying that because he's not able to protest the way he wants, he has the right to kill people
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VitalSigns posted:why doesn't that make them qualified then? Hunter Biden hasn’t been appointed to public office.
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ColonelMuttonchops posted:No, that was bannon. Won't fault you for getting them confused, though. dammit what is the hot new video game scam going on is diablo town kills too dated a suggestions
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VitalSigns posted:why doesn't that make them qualified then? pretty sure what he said was that if you think cocaine use disqualifies wealthy connected incompetent people from board seats unless their father pulls strings you have a very idealistic view of who occupies board seats
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evilweasel posted:pretty sure what he said was that if you think cocaine use disqualifies wealthy connected people from board seats unless their father pulls strings you have a very idealistic view of who occupies board seats Larry Summers da god.
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He is qualified to be on a board because boardmembers don't do anything. A potato is qualified.
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Jarmak posted:Neither Jared Kushner nor Ivanka Trump have had a substantial job in their entire lives that weren't working for their fathers' businesses. Republican voters don't view that as a bad thing. Democratic voters do. It's hypocritical, but hey, them's the breaks. Biden will be hurt among his base by his nepotism to a degree that Trump will not for his own.
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Apr 15, 2020 18:07
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Is there a toxx thread yet for people who think Biden is going to lose the election?
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:if your sole objection to what Trump is doing is that he's not observing the proper forms, this is consistent. Joe Biden has never hired Hunter for a job. Directly hiring someone is what makes it nepotism.
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FizFashizzle posted:dammit what is the hot new video game scam going on Turnip laundering
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DreamingofRoses posted:Hunter Biden hasn’t been appointed to public office. False https://www.businessinsider.com/hunter-biden-life-scandals-ukraine-involvement-with-trump-giuliani-2019-9 His daddy got him appointed to multiple public offices
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DreamingofRoses posted:Hunter Biden hasn’t been appointed to public office. Not true. He was appointed to the board of Amtrak by GWB.
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Framboise posted:he's saying that because he's not able to protest the way he wants, he has the right to kill people Yeah, it's always "you first rear end in a top hat". Try forcing the police away with your 2A rights, I'm sure it will go well.
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