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precision posted:Definitely rewatch Africa I definitely want to. I remember that season being brutal. Like they were skeletal and there was no good water source. There is a reason they never went back and have done tropical (mostly Islands) since.
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They actively got angry at one tribe for having really bad fortifications since it put the crew in danger. Season 2 extended the game by another three days and you can definitely see it during the final 3 segment, they all look like they are about to keel over at any second.
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Apr 15, 2020 05:25
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Season 3 is maybe the first moment where you see people kind of break from voting down tribal lines, but there isn't a lot of interesting game play since people were mostly worried about not being killed by the wildlife. I think no one really had a chance to leave camp to chat as much as in other locations.
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Apr 15, 2020 05:27
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Yeah, I think the modern strategy heavy version of the game is partly evolution but its also partly just that they're no longer scared of dying, starving to death, and afraid to leave their camps to go whisper with someone.
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Apr 15, 2020 05:29
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Plus with current seasons being so idol heavy, you just know if they tried to do a season like that today some poor idiot would get killed by a bear or something because they looked in the wrong cave for an advantage.
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Apr 15, 2020 05:31
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Raxivace posted:Plus with current seasons being so idol heavy, you just know if they tried to do a season like that today some poor idiot would get killed by a bear or something because they looked in the wrong cave for an advantage. Bug, feature, what's the difference? 
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Apr 15, 2020 05:33
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Huh, just watching AU Survivor and saw what sure looked like one of the most rigged challenges in Survivor history. It was one where Jonathan had to do a three count at the end, did a slow count for the first player and a super fast one for the second. Turns out it was one where the actual challenge was very different but they changed it around to make it more dramatic for TV. Pretty sure stuff like this happens on almost every episode. Spoilers in the linked article for Australian Survivor season 6: https://amp.news.com.au/entertainme...bf05b1c8c363ab2
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Apr 15, 2020 05:34
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STAC Goat posted:The flight/cab thing is weird to me because when I've watched it seems like a lot of noise and then they all end up at the same place at relatively the same time. It's partly about tradition, but also a large part of it is the reality of global travel and organizing events around the world, it's really hard to do if people are arriving on two or three days apart from each other, which would happen quite a bit more often if they didn't bunch them together before various legs. It does also stop the show from being a boat race. I do sometimes though think it's pretty unfair for people to finish first like 80% of the time and then lose to a team that was only in the finals because three teams have to be in the finals, which happens sometimes.
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Apr 15, 2020 05:52
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Tony would have either died in an early season in a way that got the show cancelled or gotten a good scare and spent the rest of the season with his rear end attached to the shelter.Rick posted:It's partly about tradition, but also a large part of it is the reality of global travel and organizing events around the world, it's really hard to do if people are arriving on two or three days apart from each other, which would happen quite a bit more often if they didn't bunch them together before various legs. It does also stop the show from being a boat race. I do sometimes though think it's pretty unfair for people to finish first like 80% of the time and then lose to a team that was only in the finals because three teams have to be in the finals, which happens sometimes. See before I watched it I kind of thought that was what it was. "A race around the world" and like if you got a lead you just kept it and I'm sure there'd be challenges and game mechanics designed to let people catch up and fall behind but if you were kicking rear end you just kept building a lead. Which seemed kind of curious but also potentially no fun. 50/50. But then when I finally tuned in and realized they basically reset a couple of times each round it was like "oh, ok... so its basically who can complete their challenge fastest and not get lost?" STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Apr 15, 2020 |
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Apr 15, 2020 05:52
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Max posted:Season 3 is maybe the first moment where you see people kind of break from voting down tribal lines, but there isn't a lot of interesting game play since people were mostly worried about not being killed by the wildlife. I think no one really had a chance to leave camp to chat as much as in other locations. The one scene I always remember from Africa is a post merge episode where Tom, Frank, Ethan and a few others went out to get water and they see this huge bison (?). As soon as they spot it the game immediately stopped. They froze in place and everyone went from Survivor contestants to human beings trying not to die.
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Apr 15, 2020 06:18
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It always seemed so lopsided that Amazing Race challenges take maybe a couple hours if you're really bad at them, while you can end up twelve hours behind if you miss the last ferry (which players may not even know is a thing until they arrive). Might be interesting if they flipped it, with some challenges keeping teams in one place for like two days. Could also bring some interesting interactions if they go to the same idk streetside pretzel vendor for four straight meals. I also find it impossible to play along with Amazing Race. And I don't need much, I'm not someone who presses pause and takes out a pencil and paper during each episode of The Genius (no judgement!). But the viewer is so unbelievably passive in AR. You can't play along with the challenges because they're either physical or you see the answer as part of the explanation. Gameplay seems to stop at "who should we u-turn?", which can be interesting but again we see the answer three seconds later with little explanation. There's nothing to talk about if you're watching together and nothing to think about if you're alone. I haven't watched in a few seasons so maybe it's changed, and I certainly don't begrudge anyone's enjoyment. Mostly I just get frustrated at what feels like a squandered premise.
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Apr 15, 2020 06:20
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Stokes posted:The one scene I always remember from Africa is a post merge episode where Tom, Frank, Ethan and a few others went out to get water and they see this huge bison (?). As soon as they spot it the game immediately stopped. They froze in place and everyone went from Survivor contestants to human beings trying not to die. That one and the iconic "Ethan has to stay awake all night and mind the shelter because they can hear a pack of hungry animals in the darkness" scene always gets to me.
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Apr 15, 2020 06:53
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i'm really curious to see how Ethan ranks being on EoE vs Africa. EoE must be a vacation relatively. except for the logs maybe.
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Late but I genuinely enjoyed Amazing Race for the stretches that I watched it for (I think I actively watched it for season 12-25, with some spotty seasons in the early ones). It was very good and then the later seasons got a bit formulaic. The Survivor vs. AR vs. Big Brother season was nice though. But like Survivor, what makes a season good is almost always gonna boil down to the cast. That said, it's a bit harder to rewatch AR seasons because a lot of the excitement gets taken away, and while that also applies to Survivor you can usually rewatch those as a 'how the winner won' journey.
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Apr 15, 2020 09:58
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I’ve changed my mind about Australian Survivor. It is a machine which manufactures only human misery and sadness. Australian Survivor is where hope goes to die. Never ever watch it. Ever. Seriously. Don’t do it.
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Apr 15, 2020 10:42
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CvC2, Final 4 is my guess?
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Apr 15, 2020 10:43
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ApplesandOranges posted:CvC2, Final 4 is my guess? You would be correct. Glad US Survivor learned to stop editing seasons like this.
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Apr 15, 2020 10:46
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Can you remind me what happened there? I’ve got a sneaking suspicion.
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Apr 15, 2020 11:44
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Luke loses the Immunity Challenge and there's no pretense it's going to be anyone but him. The rest of the episode is basically just a sad send-off to him.
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Apr 15, 2020 11:55
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Dugong posted:Can you remind me what happened there? I’ve got a sneaking suspicion. Luke lost the immunity challenge and got voted out in the final four. They really turned the knife with the episode around it too. I kind of resent the production team for how they present these seasons only to have them fall apart in the final couple episodes. I’m glad the US production team has learned to not do that anymore. I don’t know if I even want to watch the final episode after that. 
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Apr 15, 2020 11:58
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The finale is still very much worth watching. The FIC is honestly brutal and the FTC is decently entertaining. (At least, it's better than 2017 in my opinion. Great season, very dull F3.)
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Apr 15, 2020 11:59
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ApplesandOranges posted:The finale is still very much worth watching. The FIC is honestly brutal and the FTC is decently entertaining. Yeah, I’ll probably wake up and watch it in the morning. It’s been a really good season but goddamn that left me gutted. I guess the upside is I’m one episode away from All-Stars if I decide I’m willing to put myself through this one more time.
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Apr 15, 2020 12:03
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All-Stars is... a very different ball park from the other Australian seasons, in my opinion. But I'll have better comparisons when you're done.
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Apr 15, 2020 12:04
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BGrifter posted:Luke lost the immunity challenge and got voted out in the final four. They really turned the knife with the episode around it too. This is kind of one of the downsides to the way they air the late season episodes. Like US Survivor the final goes from like 6 players down to 3 in the 1st hour. Australian Survivor has entire 60 minute (without ads) for each elimination. The longer episodes are both a blessing and a curse. Also, if it makes you feel better they give Luke the All Stars Rupert treatment with a fan favorite vote to still get him $500k.
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Apr 15, 2020 12:38
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Oh jeez yeah that was heartbreaking when it aired but I kind of expected it to happen.
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Apr 15, 2020 13:05
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TAR Chat: I haven't watched it in probably 10 years, but isn't the reason they put in those catch-up mechanics because there were teams that were literally days & countries ahead of other teams? I seem to remember this being the case long ago, where some team got out ahead and just continued to utterly dominate because there wasn't even another team in the same country as them.
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Apr 15, 2020 13:37
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SweetJahasus posted:TAR Chat: Yeah it was likely to be a runaway in early seasons
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BGrifter posted:Jonathan is a better Jeff Probst than Jeff Probst is in 2020.
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Apr 15, 2020 17:36
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It would obviously end up being Boston Rob.
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Apr 15, 2020 17:49
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The Lord Bude posted:It would obviously end up being Boston Rob. No thanks.
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Apr 15, 2020 18:01
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Raxivace posted:Amazing Race just kind of bores me as a game, at least based on the four or so episodes I've seen. Sighence posted:Has AZ evolved past just being ten rounds of global taxi roulette? I watched some of the mid-30 seasons a year or so ago and it feels the same as it did watching season 7-9, for better and worse.
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Apr 15, 2020 19:16
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Kinda messed up that people with kids get the whole family, but people without kids don't at least get multiple people too in the form of parents, spouses, friends, etc.
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Apr 16, 2020 01:05
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Aw man no twinnie. Also this segment is interminable.
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Apr 16, 2020 01:08
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Finally made it to the episode on time and they're doing some snooze fest.
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Apr 16, 2020 01:08
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Apr 16, 2020 01:09
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Make Rob & Ambah's kids pick which parent they prefer
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Apr 16, 2020 01:10
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Clan Jeremy Lol at this Lion King rear end music
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Apr 16, 2020 01:13
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Well that was nice.
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It was nice... but it also robs us of a big moment of tension and resentment that often results in interesting moves or episodes.
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Khanstant posted:It was nice... but it also robs us of a big moment of tension and resentment that often results in interesting moves or episodes. They'll get a chance to trade their kids for fire tokens.
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