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Krazyface posted:sus is a normal word you dipshit. i know old people that have been saying sus for decades lowkey lol
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V. Illych L. posted:yeah the weird griping about the american left following sanders' concession seems odd to me. it is stronger than it has been at any time since eugene debbs' runs, possibly ever, and is well positioned to capitalise on the dog's dinner being made of everything by the bourgeois governments of the world This is powerfully stupid.
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Early 20th century you had a communist party at the height of its power, mid-20th century you had the civil rights movement, the anti-war movement and the Panthers. The fall of the socialist governments in Eastern Europe disemboweled the US left and we're right now, maybe, seeing a tiny resurgence.
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MizPiz posted:I appreciate Amber calling out people who praise Occupy Wall Street because "it started a conversation" wonder why she won't call out Bernie '16 and '20 for the same thing 
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GANDHITRON posted:
other than ironically unironic kill your landlord stuff, same
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Xaris posted:i'm not even sure why that comparison is considered bad. tds isues (mostly bush to early obama era was the only time i watched it) was that yeah it was general daily mockery of media pundits and like lmao john ashcroft wants to cover up boobs on a statue, and this talking head said a dumb thing, insert smirking funny face. the thing is it never actually went anything deeper of actual people and societal issues, conveniently ignored all the idiot libs, and the only time it tried to do any advocation was ~rally to restore sanity~ garbage because it wanted to do ~we're a both-sides indenpedent centrism comedy show~
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V. Illych L. posted:i don't understand this mentality tbh. biden's done much worse than personally committing sexual assault, the guy's ruined thousands of lives and probably caused a number of suicides through his politics, as has almost every big-time machine democrat
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Halloween Jack posted:I was thinking about what you said about how many American leftists come to class consciousness backwards, through idpol stuff, and it's like...maybe this isn't idpol, but it's really frustrating to me that "I won't vote for a rapist" is effective in shutting people down in a way that "I won't vote for a war criminal," "I won't vote for the architect of the carceral state," etc. is not. if they considered foreigners and prisoners human they wouldn’t be liberals in the first place.
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THS posted:if they considered foreigners and prisoners human they wouldn’t be Americans in the first place.
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i say swears online posted:Speaking of virgil for msnbc, where has sam seder been Majority Report and AM Quickies are still coming out on schedule. I think he still pops in to Chris Hayes show in the middle of the night every so often but he gets bumped off often still.
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Did Virgil lose his mind after Bernie lost and put himself in isolation?
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T-man posted:Class consciousness is just idpol for class that is one way to conceptualise it, but it's very much a controversial way
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Raccooon posted:Did Virgil lose his mind after Bernie lost and put himself in isolation? Dunno, he was MIA before Bernie dropped out too. I just hope hes doing ok. Stay safe juul wonk
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papa horny michael posted:many people who forgot the rally for sanity here.
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i say swears online posted:Speaking of virgil for msnbc, where has sam seder been He's going to spend the next year shaming Green Party voters like he did last time, gently caress him
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lancemantis posted:I don’t he’s boring as gently caress 98% of the time he's a really funny guy but for some reason decided to be the pod's Nate Silver
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Trabisnikof posted:surprised there’s not more indignation of Will walking back “Bernie would have won.” honestly before the covid stuff i could absolutely see bernie losing to trump. so in a way the worst outcome might have been avoided 
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Maya Fey posted:he's a really funny guy but for some reason decided to be the pod's Nate Silver the difference is that Virgil is usually correct to a degree and I don’t think it’s a coincidence he hasn’t been seen since Super Tuesday which was the beginning of the end
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Autism Sneaks posted:everyone saying Virgil isn't the funniest have clearly never listened to a Beltway Garage ep he can’t riff like Felix but who can, and his scripted bits are great
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:amber's position about how most people are instinctively distrustful of the mainstream media was dumb as hell imo, glad matt pushed back I think most people think they're distrustful of the media, but lack the media literacy to perceive the ways they're being influenced. In my anecdotal experience, many liberals generally have a certain understanding of what "propaganda/bias" is that is centered around the sort of flashy/"un-serious" presentation you see in places like Fox News or tabloid newspapers. But they don't really understand that propaganda can also use a serious tone and include facts in it. For example, I consider my dad to be a sort of template of a certain subset of boomer liberals, and I'm pretty confident that a serious-sounding documentary could persuade him to believe just about anything. Xaris posted:i'm not even sure why that comparison is considered bad. tds isues (mostly bush to early obama era was the only time i watched it) was that yeah it was general daily mockery of media pundits and like lmao john ashcroft wants to cover up boobs on a statue, and this talking head said a dumb thing, insert smirking funny face. the thing is it never actually went anything deeper of actual people and societal issues, conveniently ignored all the idiot libs, and the only time it tried to do any advocation was ~rally to restore sanity~ garbage because it wanted to do ~we're a both-sides indenpedent centrism comedy show~ Yeah, "The Daily Show, except with good politics and actual funny jokes" would be fine Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 21:54 on Apr 15, 2020 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I was thinking about what you said about how many American leftists come to class consciousness backwards, through idpol stuff, and it's like...maybe this isn't idpol, but it's really frustrating to me that "I won't vote for a rapist" is effective in shutting people down in a way that "I won't vote for a war criminal," "I won't vote for the architect of the carceral state," etc. is not. Yes, while it's convenient in this specific election, it's concerning in the sense that it's very easy to imagine the Democrats running "Elizabeth Warren, except competent" and pulling in all of these people (plus a significant portion of people like the Warren supporters who switched to Bernie later in this primary after she did too many bad things*). * this was actually better than I expected, though; I did not expect a non-trivial amount of Warren supporters to actually abandon her once she walked back MfA or made that false accusation against Bernie
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AnEdgelord posted:Guessing people here didnt listen to Amber's Teamster interview I haven't but why?
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Ytlaya posted:Yes, while it's convenient in this specific election, it's concerning in the sense that it's very easy to imagine the Democrats running "Elizabeth Warren, except competent" and pulling in all of these people (plus a significant portion of people like the Warren supporters who switched to Bernie later in this primary after she did too many bad things*). Obama was basically "Warren but competent".
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MizPiz posted:I haven't but why? Its good, lots of talk about what Teamsters are doing to protect people during the pandemic as well as ways to support them. Also some discussions of their internal politics including the possibility of more hardcore trade unionists taking control of the organization through their internal elections. It was very interesting and its clear that part of the point of the interview was to show where the left can put their energies in a post-bernie coronavirus-current world.
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Halloween Jack posted:I was thinking about what you said about how many American leftists come to class consciousness backwards, through idpol stuff, and it's like...maybe this isn't idpol, but it's really frustrating to me that "I won't vote for a rapist" is effective in shutting people down in a way that "I won't vote for a war criminal," "I won't vote for the architect of the carceral state," etc. is not. Nobody who votes suffers from those things really, no visceral element Homeless Friend has issued a correction as of 23:28 on Apr 15, 2020 |
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