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Tiggum posted:Oh wow, it's "what if Star Trek but everything all at once and twice as dramatic". That sums up the plot of the game - it's got Borg Invasion, Klingon Civil War, Sword of Kahless, Sela, Omega Particles, Time Travel, Time Loops, Loctucus, Baku Planet, and more!
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Tighclops posted:There's nothing wrong with a little gore or body horror now and then, the new stuff would probably feel less gratuitous if these shows were a tenth as deep as they sold themselves as Ok so there's nothing actually wrong with the thing being claimed to be a big bad thing except the show also wasn't as <subjective viewpoint about quality with no fixed definition> as it should have been. Agreed. Star POOP PRICKCARD was fine to have mean murders (:*() but it was also extremely poopy (lol) and did a big fart so it was bad.
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Thom12255 posted:That sums up the plot of the game - it's got Borg Invasion, Klingon Civil War, Sword of Kahless, Sela, Omega Particles, Time Travel, Time Loops, Loctucus, Baku Planet, and more! The first Borg mission is to assimilate a Dominion cloning station so that they can clone him. Which makes absolutely no sense since the Borg make it clear in BoBW that once they assimilated him they kept all of his knowledge. So it’s literally just to have a Borg drone that looks like Picard
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Look one time they phasered an evil mind-controlled admiral and he blew up so no one is allowed to say it's bad if they stab a recurring child guest star in the eye with a fork in extreme closeup.
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All that Armada trailer did was make me wish someone still made Star Trek video games in 2020.
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I was always sad the show never got the chance to do that bit where the defiant flies through the middle of a warbird and bombs it though.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Ok so there's nothing actually wrong with the thing being claimed to be a big bad thing except the show also wasn't as <subjective viewpoint about quality with no fixed definition> as it should have been. You're about as incoherent as the show ended up being, congratulations I guess
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Hed posted:All that Armada trailer did was make me wish someone still made Star Trek video games in 2020. One of these days some absolute madman is gonna put in the work to get Bridge Commander 2 greenlit and I hope I’m alive to see it.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:One of these days some absolute madman is gonna put in the work to get Bridge Commander 2 greenlit and I hope I’m alive to see it. Isn't this basically what that VR game is?
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Pastamania posted:Isn't this basically what that VR game is? The thing is that you don’t need several expensive VR systems to play bridge commander, though.
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The VR game can also be played normally.
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It's really crazy how badly CBS and Paramount dropped the ball on the brand in the last decade/decade and a half. You can count the number of actual Trek games on one hand (I'm not including the mobile poo poo). There was very little in the way of official merch outside of the very niche expensive crap until they started with the new CBS shows.
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MikeJF posted:Oh yeah let's throw that video in and I thought Elite Force II was stupid-fun I clearly missed out on a good fleet game
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I liked Elite Force 1 better to be honest They got the entire Voyager cast (eventually, Jeri Ryan was not in the original game but got patched in later with an expansion)
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FlamingLiberal posted:I liked Elite Force 1 better to be honest Yes EF1 was much, much better. There was a lot of jank in EF2, possibly due to the developer and engine switch.
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MikeJF posted:Oh yeah let's throw that video in You know, now that I think about it, I have to wonder if having done the rather corny dialogue and scenarios for these games made Patrick Stewart more receptive to mediocre material when it came time to do a TV show again. I gave up on Elite Force II somewhere around the First Contact-aping mission on the Enterprise hull.
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Timby posted:Yes EF1 was much, much better. There was a lot of jank in EF2, possibly due to the developer and engine switch. I also appreciated the level in EF1 where you go onto a ship that is several ships smashed together- a Klingon ship, a Terran Imperial ship, and I think a Hirogen one
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MikeJF posted:Oh yeah let's throw that video in Picard talking to...Picard out of 10.
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FlamingLiberal posted:EF1 actually used some species from Voyager to better effect, whereas in EF2 you mostly battle these aliens who were made for that game EF1 was developed by Raven, which made some legitimately great games before becoming a COD multiplayer factory for Activision. EF2 was developed by Ritual, whose pedigree is, uh ... not good.
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Armada 2's campaign is a bore to get through compared to Armada 1 which is insane but great fun.
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The best Armada level is the early Fed one where you have to build a fleet using scavenged ships hidden around the map and take on a Borg (?) base. I never played EF but Armada and the Bridge Commander demo were extremely my jam. I remember Legacy for the 360 being alright but I haven’t played it since just after it was released.
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Thom12255 posted:Armada 2's campaign is a bore to get through compared to Armada 1 which is insane but great fun. Armada 1 I played a ton of
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Klingon Academy is where it’s at. Bring on the ginsu system.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's really crazy how badly CBS and Paramount dropped the ball on the brand in the last decade/decade and a half. You can count the number of actual Trek games on one hand (I'm not including the mobile poo poo). It's the same everywhere - EA Games only just put out the first single-player Star Wars game since LucasArts shut down, and the only other SW games they've made are their two mediocre Battlefronts. They've completly failed to put out anything that ties into the new trilogy. Outside of mobile garbage, licensed games just don't get made anymore...
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Licenses used to get handed out like candy because you could pay a dozen guys for like 10 months for a combined salary under seven figures and still make a cool profit as a result. The rise of the AAA gaming scene and the massively ballooning production costs with no guarantee of break-even scared all the licensors off from the market.
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Also, the old genres it used to be easier and cheaper to develop for died. You won't see a Birth of the Federation or Armada these days, they're too niche. I still think Trek would've been ripe for some episodic telltale style adventures but that would be thinking too far out of the box for CBS.
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https://trekmovie.com/2020/04/15/rosario-dawson-wants-to-play-q-in-star-trek-picard-and-discovery-too/ absolutely not. i don't want someone who dragged a trans person of their house and beat them with their family
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Angry Salami posted:It's the same everywhere - EA Games only just put out the first single-player Star Wars game since LucasArts shut down, and the only other SW games they've made are their two mediocre Battlefronts. They've completly failed to put out anything that ties into the new trilogy. Star Trek games basically disappeared once Activision lost the rights to make licensed games (and this was like 2002). After that it’s just like Star Trek Legacy and that JJTrek 3rd person shooter.
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FlamingLiberal posted:There were a bunch of SW games getting made before EA got the exclusive rights Star Trek Legacy was so disappointing.
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Recasting Q is exactly the kind of mistake modern Star Trek would make. Yes, the fans love the character Q. They don't care who plays them at all.
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PostNouveau posted:Recasting Q is exactly the kind of mistake modern Star Trek would make. I've no time for new Trek at this point but I don't think this is fair. If there's one thing they do know it's big fan pleasing stunt casting, even to the point where it's been a detriment to the plot.
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multijoe posted:I've no time for new Trek at this point but I don't think this is fair. If there's one thing they do know it's big fan pleasing stunt casting, even to the point where it's been a detriment to the plot. I'm saying any stunt casting would be a bad idea. The fans love John de Lancie, not Q.
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De Lancie or no one. He wore a red uniform with 4 pips to mock Picard. His age can have the same explanation.
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PostNouveau posted:I'm saying any stunt casting would be a bad idea. The fans love John de Lancie, not Q. Yeah that's what I'm saying, they knew to bring back Brent Spiner for Data and Jonathan Frakes for Riker, they know the fans want to see John De Lancie as Q, that is like the one thing you can say in favour of the new Trek regime.
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multijoe posted:Yeah that's what I'm saying, they knew to bring back Brent Spiner for Data and Jonathan Frakes for Riker, they know the fans want to see John De Lancie as Q, that is like the one thing you can say in favour of the new Trek regime. Ohhhhhhh. I wouldn't call casting Brent Spiner as Data "stunt casting", but I see what you mean.
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Stunt casting can work in certain circumstances. Andy Dick, as annoying and horrible as he is, works at the EMH Mk 2. That said, he's not playing the same character as Robert Picardo, and that sort of re-casting doesn't work. Unless you're replacing Terrance Howard with Don Cheadle. John DeLancie is Q, and if they aren't bringing him back, they should bring Q back, especially as a foil to Picard.
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Q should have warned them about the Reapers, complete galactic genocide if someone pushes a button seems like a much bigger problem than the Borg's half-arsed civilisational attempted genocides
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Next season will end with RoboPicard dying, only to have Q bring him back to life in a human body.
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Retrowave Joe posted:Next season will end with RoboPicard dying, only to have Q bring him back to life as Tom Hardy. Corrected
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