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goddamnedtwisto posted:Don't forget most of the Traveler community in the UK aren't Roma (and there are historic tensions that lead Irish Travelers and other non-Roma European Traveler communities to dislike being bundled in with the Roma).
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It's communal tensions all the way down.  I heard Gypsies being commonly and, let's say, not intentionally pejoratively, being called Zigeuner and tzigane when I was a kid. Rom is definitely the preferred name these days though.
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Angepain posted:the clapping is okay in Leith because i don't think many people voted tory around here. i may court the ire of the thread here but i did a bit of clapping myself tbh just because it seemed nicer than just sitting by the window not doing anything Haven't heard poo poo at any point in my place in a quiet back street in Barking.
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So has anyone else noticed how Peston and Laura K aren't getting their little "exclusives" around 11pm since Big Brain Dommy had it on his toes from Downing Street?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:So has anyone else noticed how Peston and Laura K aren't getting their little "exclusives" around 11pm since Big Brain Dommy had it on his toes from Downing Street? I completely missed this: https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-14/dominic-cummings-coronavirus/ quote:The prime minister's top aide Dominic Cummings has returned to work in 10 Downing Street following a period of self-isolation.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I completely missed this: Huh, I assume that Boris left his mobile at Downing Street then.
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Munin posted:It's communal tensions all the way down. In Belgium, 'zigeuner' is still the commonly used term even though 'Roma-zigeuner' is the one accepted as correct. All my comic books also used to call all of them zigeuners, but fortunately did not all treat them as all being thieves and criminals.
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Pennfalath posted:In Belgium, 'zigeuner' is still the commonly used term even though 'Roma-zigeuner' is the one accepted as correct. All my comic books also used to call all of them zigeuners, but fortunately did not all treat them as all being thieves and criminals. Yeah, French wise I mostly saw Roma in bande dessinée (classic French style comics) and there while they were treated as exotic it was mostly in a favorable light. Same with most of the children's literature I read in German.
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Shame about actual France. (Not that the UK has any moral high ground on that one, now we elected an explicitly anti-Traveller government.)
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Guavanaut posted:Shame about actual France. Yeah. To me the funny thing is that it's not something that was propagandized from childhood and I feel that attitudes have definitely hardened as capitalist and property first thinking have become more and more prominent. Then again it's probably just me becoming more aware of these things over time rather than being an oblivious kid.
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Total Meatlove posted:And everything surrounding Dale Farm... But yeah we've not had an very good record with Travelling people since that whole enclosure of the Commons thing.
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okay i'm ok with the clapping in general in most situations but which care worker is looking at this and saying, yes, this is helping, this helps me https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1250986608842674177
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OK confess - who's in the whatsapp group for this band?quote:“Sometimes you’ll open your phone and there’ll be 2,000 messages, and they’re all bickering for 45 minutes about vegetable crisps,” https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/dec/27/sports-team-the-indie-stars-romanticising-middle-england Some really boring and tedious sounding band.
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p sure they've just wanted to do doughnuts with the ferry for years and now they've finally got an excuse ...but it's for the NHS!
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Yeah I mean if I operated a ferry and suddenly had an excuse to go hog wild I definitely would
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XMNN posted:p sure they've just wanted to do doughnuts with the ferry for years and now they've finally got an excuse Lol yes it's this. You can't just sneak off to a country park forest in the early hours and pull donuts with the sirens on like the police do. You volunteer to do the late shift so you finally have your chance  Looks like there are cars on the deck so you'd hope the passengers had forewarning, especially if they were elderly :/
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So the updated lockdown advice that lets you drive places to go for a walk as long as you walk more than you drive also says if you're about to throttle the missus you can go stay with a friend for a few days. But it has to be a few days. Does this mean the kids can be packed off to the grandparents down the road for a few days? For parental well being?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/dec/27/sports-team-the-indie-stars-romanticising-middle-england i'm glad to see that bands can still rise from nothing, mere humble origins of all going to cambridge. "These are the middle-class kids who might have turned to rap, but now have, in Sports Team, a band singing about their lives." is a hell of a sentence
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:OK confess - who's in the whatsapp group for this band?  Aren't they the lads that grew weed in Lock Stock? Curtains boy stole my workshirts. Angepain posted:i'm glad to see that bands can still rise from nothing, mere humble origins of all going to cambridge. "These are the middle-class kids who might have turned to rap, but now have, in Sports Team, a band singing about their lives." is a hell of a sentence
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Surely that's a stock photo for "wellness gurus". Someone will swipe that and use it to flog jade eggs before the day is out.
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Rice says “we’re all pretty Labour”, but “not tribal ... that Idles record, just coming out with a ‘gently caress Boris’ attitude, it’s the tritest, cheapest form of politics. We’ve got this opportunity to be really subtle and actually engage people, rather than just trotting out talking points.” A union-jack-wearing character in their song The Races appears to be your typical side of Tory gammon – “He’ll never buy you a drink / But he’ll let you know he can” – but Rice says “there’s always an empathetic take. Even Kutcher, about a guy who’s frustrated with his haircut, is quite an empathetic portrayal.”
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Angepain posted:Rice says “we’re all pretty Labour”, but “not tribal ... that Idles record, just coming out with a ‘gently caress Boris’ attitude, it’s the tritest, cheapest form of politics. We’ve got this opportunity to be really subtle and actually engage people, rather than just trotting out talking points.” A union-jack-wearing character in their song The Races appears to be your typical side of Tory gammon – “He’ll never buy you a drink / But he’ll let you know he can” – but Rice says “there’s always an empathetic take. Even Kutcher, about a guy who’s frustrated with his haircut, is quite an empathetic portrayal.” Are these loving limp-dicked tosswipes badmouthing IDLES?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:OK confess - who's in the whatsapp group for this band? quote:Cambridge graduates Imagine my shock
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crispix posted:Lol yes it's this. You can't just sneak off to a country park forest in the early hours and pull donuts with the sirens on like the police do. You volunteer to do the late shift so you finally have your chance That's about as fast as the ferry turns when docking, they tell you to stay in your car (or sit down if a foot passenger) for a reason. Admittedly it's only normally a 90 degree turn, (sometimes it's a 270 when the current is loving around), but those ferries can loving *shift*.
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I figure as a river ferry it's probably 90% maneuvering thrusters but it's still impressive. Guess shallow draft helps too.
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Guavanaut posted:There's a fair amount of date around whether that should be the term, because it was borrowed from the German 'Antiziganismus', which was treated as a good thing by Nazis and proto-Nazis (but so was anti-Semitism, so https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people posted:English tzigane ... from Greek ἀθίγγανος athínganos (corrupted form: τσιγγάνος tsingános), "untouchable" "Zigeuner" is considered a slur in German but is also still a pretty common term - there was some uproar about Baden-Württemberg banning restaurants referring to a dish as Zigeunerschnitzel (now Balkanschnitzel).
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), but also because 'zigan' and 'zig' are deemed slurs (at least in Eastern Europe, but they don't sound like nice words even in English).
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https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1251103002703925248?s=21 JLM doing great work promoting their anti-racist bona fides.
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