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I set up a B+ I've had flapping around forever as a PiHole yesterday, and now that its always on and connected to the network I'm thinking of using it for networked storage using a pair of 1TB 2.5" external HDDs in RAID 1 for backing things up (though it occurs to me they're less reliable than everything they're backing up as all my computers are solid state now). Is a B+ going to be up to this or am I asking for pain?
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For a pure backup role the load isn't really significant, but with anything before a 3B+ you're going to be stuck with a 100mbit ethernet adapter sharing a single USB 2.0 channel with both of the hard drives. If all you need is to back up a few gigs a night it'll probably be perfectly fine, especially for the cost, but if you try to do almost anything more you're going to start running on to bottlenecks.
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Apr 14, 2020 22:38
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Not to say it's not slow, the slowness hasn't been a practical issue for me, and my two 1TB drives are mirrored through rsync rather than RAID, so it's even slower. You can manage if you kick off the backup with a lot of time to spare, and then use hardlinks and diffing to do incremental backups from there on. I really like this approach because the Pi becomes a disposable adapter between the storage devices and the network.
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Apr 14, 2020 22:52
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Not even a few gigs a night, just a place I toss miscellaneous files I'd rather not lose if the machine they're on decides to catch fire or something. Sounds like it will work fine, thanks. E: Actually, while I'm at it, any recommendations for a cheap powered USB hub? Fantastic Foreskin fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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Apr 14, 2020 23:43
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ItBreathes posted:Not even a few gigs a night, just a place I toss miscellaneous files I'd rather not lose if the machine they're on decides to catch fire or something. Sounds like it will work fine, thanks. I get mine from AmazonBasics, but I would also trust Monoprice/PrimeCables and they seem to be cheaper: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=21671
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Apr 15, 2020 00:14
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Eletriarnation posted:I tried to think of something else to run on it but I already have a quad-core Xeon doing most of that stuff, I just didn't want to make DHCP+DNS reliant on my VM sandbox. Only other thing I have running on mine is linux-kms-server for reasons
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Apr 15, 2020 00:49
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Has anyone built a print server with a pi? I finally came up with a use case where it would make more sense than a used corporate box, and it seems like it should work ok, although getting the snowflake Konica Minolta drivers could be a pain in the rear end. What's the oldest/cheapest model that would do the job reasonably? Some of the new ones are like a hundred bucks and definitely not worth it.
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Apr 16, 2020 16:10
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Klyith posted:Not great. Library organization is basic, the standard browser only presents things by artist/album/genre or folder structure. And I just tried to search for something I have with composer & performer tags, no dice.  there seems to be no decent music app that handles classical music correctly...
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Apr 16, 2020 16:17
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mobby_6kl posted:Has anyone built a print server with a pi? I finally came up with a use case where it would make more sense than a used corporate box, and it seems like it should work ok, although getting the snowflake Konica Minolta drivers could be a pain in the rear end. You’re getting ripped off if you pay $100 for a Pi. It’s probably a bundle with a bunch of stuff you don’t need. The newest Pi4 with extra ram is $50 at Microcenter. The Zero-W is $10 Any Pi will run CUPS. You could go zero-W but you’d need some dongles, and could have hiccups with large docs. 3B or 4 are safe choices.
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Apr 16, 2020 16:25
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Pi4 needs a decent power supply though, + case and an SD Card and you can get kinda close to $100 and not be too bad of a rip off, especially if you can get it from somewhere without tax. Agree that a Pi4 for a print server is way overkill though.
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Apr 16, 2020 16:44
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eddiewalker posted:Any Pi will run CUPS. You could go zero-W but you'd need some dongles, and could have hiccups with large docs. 3B or 4 are safe choices. Basically this I use a Pi Zero W with a microUSB-to-printer cable and it's adequate for two people's infrequent printing needs. It does take a while to get spun up on larger documents (especially image-based PDFs), and while it hasn't straight up choked yet, it probably would if I fed it a large scan. I'm only using it because it's what I had on hand, and sooner or later I'll drop $20 on a 3A+, or retire one of my 3B+ from BOINC duty after this CoViD stuff is over.
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Apr 16, 2020 17:08
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mobby_6kl posted:Has anyone built a print server with a pi? I finally came up with a use case where it would make more sense than a used corporate box, and it seems like it should work ok, although getting the snowflake Konica Minolta drivers could be a pain in the rear end. I would get an older Pi 3 B+--the last generation $35 model. It runs a lot, lot cooler at idle and still has wifi built-in. Sure the USB ports are slow and it has a little less speed, but for a print server no one cares or will know. Also it's powered by a regular usb micro power adapter so you don't have to give up a USB C cable or power supply.
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Apr 16, 2020 17:24
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Has anyone run Raspberry Pi Desktop on a really old and lovely computer? I have a 1.5ghz VIA C7 with 2gb ram which was a lovely computer when it was new back in 2008. If you can believe it, I upgraded the IGP with an old Voodoo 3. I would like to turn it into an offline learning toy for my niece and nephew running scratch and Minecraft type software. However, I'd like to have some idea of what the experience is going to be like before I dig it out of my parents' garage. Last time I tried to put lubuntu on it around 2012 it still sucked as a general purpose computer but I think as an offline machine it might be better since the web has become so much heavier since 2008.
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Apr 16, 2020 18:40
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Anyone have experience setting up a pi Zero W with connecting a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse on startup? Tried some stuff I found via googling, but not much success especially since the pi doesn’t want to detect the mouse. If I can also connect a 8bitdo controller that’s a nice bonus but I’m just happy if I can get those two things working first. I have VNC and SSH enabled so I can tweak it on my laptop, and if needed I can provide model/MAC addresses for what I’m trying to connect.
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Apr 16, 2020 19:12
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eddiewalker posted:You’re getting ripped off if you pay $100 for a Pi. It’s probably a bundle with a bunch of stuff you don’t need. The newest Pi4 with extra ram is $50 at Microcenter. The Zero-W is $10 There's some price-gouging going on with the Pi now because of COVID-19, due to an increase in demand for the Zero because of ventilators, and the Pi in general because of DIY projects. Every vendor on Newegg seems to have them marked up now. For example, the Pi Zero is a $5 motherboard, but I saw one vendor on Newegg selling it for $98.99 (73% off from $367).
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Apr 16, 2020 22:22
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Holy hell, do not build a ventilator from a Raspberry Pi--especially a zero. There are so many little things that can fail catastrophically, like powering down while writing to the SD card (boom, corrupt filesystem.. won't even reboot and everything is gone) to fork-bombing the single core processor and completely hosing the critical control loop of the ventilator. It is an exceptionally dumb idea to use a Pi in those cases without a very deep understanding of embedded Linux.
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yeah a literal arduino uno would be cheaper, more reliable and more suited to running a ventilator than a raspberry pi
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Apr 17, 2020 00:27
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Probably even better than anything more sophisticated, like an ESP32. Open source code running on RTOS-based platforms without an MMU are not very reliable because most random developers are morons, AMA The (hacky, quick) ventilators really aren't that complicated.
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Apr 17, 2020 00:39
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Sagebrush posted:yeah a literal arduino uno would be cheaper, more reliable and more suited to running a ventilator than a raspberry pi Yes but how will I implement my javascript based user interface on such a puny device
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bolind posted:There was some discussion upthread about what to use an OG Pi 1 for. I use it for RISC OS. Except I tend to flip flop between different rpi's with it. Primarily because I really like the case for my rpi1, but it was designed for education. The case is made to be screwed to the desk and hard to open so not much good for GPIO. But it looks nice. Anyway it runs RISC OS fine. Because RO doesn't support WiFi or BT it's a pretty good match. Some gotchas though like with partitions.
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I want to use a raspberry pi 4b to play some media using Kodi. I'd use an external hard drive plugged directly into the raspberry pi for the media and want to transfer files regularly from a windows pc. If some media I want to play is more than 4gb, what's the best way to get around the fat32 filesize limitation?
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Do you have to use fat32? If you’re not planning on plugging it into your windows box you can just use something else. NTFS would be worth looking into, but the folks in the NAS and/or Linux threads may have some ideas.
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A Bag of Milk posted:I want to use a raspberry pi 4b to play some media using Kodi. I'd use an external hard drive plugged directly into the raspberry pi for the media and want to transfer files regularly from a windows pc. If some media I want to play is more than 4gb, what's the best way to get around the fat32 filesize limitation? You can read NTFS from Linux but it eats CPU. I’d still prefer that to FAT32 though.
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Would FTP be an acceptable way for you to do transfers? Then you can set the filesystem to ext whatever and just use a program like PuTTY to SSH into your Pi and upload files.
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If you really want to have the drive be easily portable between windows PCs and the Pi I'd use exFAT. Kodi should be able to do that out of the box, though the whole first page of google is people having problems with it (apparently it broke on specific hardware). Alternately, format it in ext4 and turn on Windows Subsystem for Linux
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Thanks for the replies. I'm kind of a dummy so ftp/ext4/ntfs all seem to have their pros and cons. Another option would be to read files directly from the windows pc, is that generally ok? The pc and raspberry pi would be connected to the same router, both with ethernet cables. If kodi on raspberry pi just "streams" from the pc, is that functional and stable enough to be a primary option?
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A Bag of Milk posted:Thanks for the replies. I'm kind of a dummy so ftp/ext4/ntfs all seem to have their pros and cons. Another option would be to read files directly from the windows pc, is that generally ok? The pc and raspberry pi would be connected to the same router, both with ethernet cables. If kodi on raspberry pi just "streams" from the pc, is that functional and stable enough to be a primary option? That will work totally fine in terms of bandwidth for video. Seeking can be a bit slower over a network share, but if your router has gigabit ethernet even that should be minimal. The question is more about Kodi then, how does handle network shares in its library. (Does it have to re-index when the PC with the share is turned off?)
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Yeah streaming is usually great in my experience experience, especially for compressed stuff like movies you downloaded or ripped. I've only had trouble with DVD ISO images, but those are always a royal pain even locally (good grief VLC just straight up stopped supporting DVD menus, and god help you getting decss to work on modern Linux distros). It that fails I'd go the opposite way and format the drive ext4 and make it just a native part of your pi. Then setup ftp or samba to let you send files to it from your window machine. Trying to find a drive format and such that works great on Windows and Linux, and supports big files, is a big pain in my experience.
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I've been streaming video to my htpc (i5 windows box so YMMV) with Kodi with almost no issues over WiFi (mostly it's the router/wifi card glitching out). Seeking can indeed take a bit longer but not too bad. If you can have a gigabit link or even just decent AC (mine is through like 4 brick walls) it should work fine.Discussion Quorum posted:Basically this One thing I never tried is printing directly from a phone. Can Android use a network printer nowadays, or is the Cloud printing poo poo the only way to make that work? That would require running X and Chrome, right? That could be an issue on the Zero. mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Apr 18, 2020 |
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mobby_6kl posted:One thing I never tried is printing directly from a phone. Can Android use a network printer nowadays, or is the Cloud printing poo poo the only way to make that work? That would require running X and Chrome, right? That could be an issue on the Zero. If there's a manufacturer app that supports the printer, yes you can avoid cloud print. I've used this one for example to print directly to a networked brother printer. But whether those apps will support a non-networked printer that you've connected with a Pi is a good question. But also, you totally don't need to run X and chrome to use cloud print on a pi. This is linux, people write real software to do that type of thing.
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Klyith posted:Alternately, format it in ext4 and turn on Windows Subsystem for Linux WSL does not add the ability to read ext4.
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mobby_6kl posted:I've been streaming video to my htpc (i5 windows box so YMMV) with Kodi with almost no issues over WiFi (mostly it's the router/wifi card glitching out). Seeking can indeed take a bit longer but not too bad. If you can have a gigabit link or even just decent AC (mine is through like 4 brick walls) it should work fine. My Brother wifi laser printer actually has an amazing Android app and I can share any document from another app to it and pages fly right out of it. I didn't have to setup anything either, it found the printer on the network and configured itself. I was blown away--it just works, way way way better than any desktop printer setup. Sadly I think this only works for Brother printers.
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Whoa, that's cool. The last time I tired it, Cloud printing was pretty much the only way but now I can apparently install plugins for both Konica Minolta and Samsung printers. I'm not super optimistic about this working with my 10+ y.o. USB-only garbage but that's pretty neat anyway.
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I'd like to try to set up a 24/7 music stream on Youtube with my raspberry pi 4 4 gig ram. The easiest way I can see is for me to install windows on it - is there a good guide on how to do that?
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You can't install desktop windows on the Pi unfortunately. You can install a janky thing called 'Windows IoT core' that's meant to run a .NET app, but it has no desktop or interface you're used to using (and almost certainly won't run a regular windows app you downloaded somewhere). I have a strong feeling you could probably find a guide that shows you how to use FFmpeg to stream to youtube from Linux.
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clockworkjoe posted:I'd like to try to set up a 24/7 music stream on Youtube with my raspberry pi 4 4 gig ram. The easiest way I can see is for me to install windows on it - is there a good guide on how to do that? https://obsproject.com/wiki/install-instructions#linux Edit: Though I don't know if everything there supports arm, so maybe this is useless. But it's a better start than trying to install Windows on a Pi.
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There are several windows version that run on Arm at this point. There's that RT thing that I died a few years ago with the lovely tablets it came on, and now I think they made the full version run on Arm too for another go at this. The major change is that they're supposed to have an x86 emulator built in for everything not Arm native. Practically, I've no idea if either of these will work on a Pi but it could be worth looking into it further.
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If you wanna use windows don’t use an RPi. Buy a used laptop for <$100 and be done with it.
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If your solution to a problem is to run Windows on a Raspberry Pi you're probably approaching this from the wrong angle. Like ^^^, use commodity x86 hardware for Windows rather than ARM. But what is constraining you to Windows?
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Probably not a whole lot of use but I run miniDLNA on my OPi Zero "everything" server. It has an SMB and NFS share set up to it's media directories too so I can copy stuff over easily to it if I want. The PS4, phone and PCs can see the MiniDLNA uPnP server and access the video and audio on it. Not sure if BubbleuPnP on Android still has this feature, but it used to let me download stuff from my MiniDLNA server. I use it sometimes for music because Spotify doesn't have all my music.
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