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Rigged Death Trap posted:Jagganoth is the primary instigator of this scheme. He called the meeting, he's the shadow looming over the rest of the demiurges, and the most capable of toppling any portion of them (but not the whole). As well as the phrasing above of "Then well see if you deserve the master key or not" implies a much stronger hand in the events and their planning, and incubus being dragged along. https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/wielder-of-names-3-42-to-3-44/ "The other six still think it's that boy." Incubus saw the potential before Jagganoth, until there's an explicit statement in the text to the contrary.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:If anyone could claim that single drop of blood, it's actually probably her. Don't forget she's an Emissary of Jagganoth and spoiling for a shot of her own at Incubus. Emissaries are people like the bondage nun who have been lent a portion of a Key. Maya isn't anyone's Emissary. She's also not part of the order of knights who follow Jag. She's a Mendicant Knight.
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Jesus Cryophage. That's amazing.Dr Subterfuge posted:Emissaries are people like the bondage nun who have been lent a portion of a Key. Maya isn't anyone's Emissary. She's also not part of the order of knights who follow Jag. She's a Mendicant Knight. Yeah, that's my take. I'm not even sure if she entered the competition, and if she did she's doing the bare minimum at every step to get through each round.
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Hostile V posted:KARAMEL. SIX. BILLION. DANCENS. OMG
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Cowcaster posted:i will say the moment solomon grundy decides to ki rata jagganoth to show his martial superiority and his kick just stops dead against one of his magnificent pecs will be a tasty moment indeed *seeing Anderson Silva's leg injury again* Yo trigger warning that poo poo
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Mr. Lobe posted:If there's anything I don't like about k6bd, it's that it's hard to imagine communism happening in a world with great man metaphysics
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Dr Subterfuge posted:Emissaries are people like the bondage nun who have been lent a portion of a Key. Maya isn't anyone's Emissary. She's also not part of the order of knights who follow Jag. She's a Mendicant Knight. Have you not noticed that red gem embedded in her forehead? Remember her entire drive is that she's out to kill Incubus. edit: I fully admit I might be wrong, but it looks an awful lot like what the other emissaries have had.
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pretty good but I feel like maybe all the blood and gore should be flashing various colors to really match the Caramelldansen aesthetic, as so: https://twitter.com/lilnasx/status/1239658468132315136
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Have you not noticed that red gem embedded in her forehead? Remember her entire drive is that she's out to kill Incubus. Lots of people have those without their being Emissaries that get their juice straight from a Demiurge's key. Some of them have fakes, just as fashion, some are just personally powerful enough that they have a real diminutive version, much like the (many) Demiurges of old had before they all got whittled down and condensed into the 7 of today. Maya is likely in that 'just personally powerful enough to have one of her own' crowd. Can't remember what they're called, off-hand, but they're a thing outside of the Demiurge keys. edit: Ley-Stones. That's what they're called. https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/wielder-of-names-1-16/ Anybody can have one, they're separate from actual Keys to gates, and the ones that aren't fakes (to look more powerful/important than you actually are) get bigger and more impressive the more powerful you are. Naturally, demiurges can pump some of their power into someone, and their Ley-Stone would become more impressive as a result, so it's the natural assumption one would make for most people meeting someone with one like that (you know, impressive). Maya has a pretty dang big one...because she's Maya, end of story. Most people would probably assume she's wearing a fake...because what would a drunken noodle-glutton possibly be doing with an actual Ley-Stone that size and luster? Aoi fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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EimiYoshikawa posted:Lots of people have those without their being Emissaries that get their juice straight from a Demiurge's key. Ahh, I got them confused. I think I misread that page during my recent re-read, because I guess I got Ley-stone == Emissary out of it.
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Flesnolk posted:She couldn't even make it a couple rounds into the tournament, against normal (by KSBD standards) kung fu dudes, without fusing with Cio. I think they were pretty hardcore Kung Fu dudes, although obviously nowhere near Solomon's level and your overall point still stands. Looking back though, Gog saying she would rig the matches to give Allison easy fights and then Allison getting matched up against a load of heavyweight/super heavyweights some of who looked tough as poo poo compared to generic axe man or whatever makes me think Gog actually put Allison against the toughest dudes in the tournament from the get go.
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Instead of stopping time, I prefer the more bad-rear end explanation that Solomon is just moving extremely fast, to the point that he has jet-like contrails streaming from his limbs. The key is probably giving him his purple aura which protects him from the effects of having a velocity that can be expressed in multiple Machs. A brutal, kung-fu speedster... with the perfect beard.
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K Prime posted:There's also a fascinating historical undercurrent that the Chancellor of Qin, Zhao Gao, may have been deliberately making the laws absurd in an attempt to wreak vengeance on Qin from within. I think the worst thing is that Legalism kind of won. I read somewhere that a lot of Chinese empires were basically a thing Confucian covering over a very legalist structure.
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Shake, shake, shake, Paternum Shake your arena Work, work, work, Paternum Work your arena Paternum does Ki-rata Slaughter all the pretenders And when he gets the sensation Bracelets in the air, then a blood ocean
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What Solly D thinks it looks like: https://youtu.be/dNQs_Bef_V8 What it would actually look like if you perceived it fast enough: 
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Cat Mattress posted:Shake, shake, shake, Paternum david uses five fingers a moment passes and lingers and diamond runs into balsa- the challengers are all chunky salsa sol-dave's the one, life obliteration okay! i believe you! sol-dave's the one, life obliteration okay! i believe you!
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EimiYoshikawa posted:Lots of people have those without their being Emissaries that get their juice straight from a Demiurge's key. I forgot how utterly fantastic that chapter was. https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/wielder-of-names-2-34/ Combat power and gate use might not even be the greatest, most important power of the master key. The yellow devils in this chapter recognized Allison's apparently-effortless, intuitive binding of an ebon demon as something that requires a Key of Kings, straight up. It seems to me like all of this politicking between the demiurges is really only kind of a subplot - the most minor, recent history - of the creation story in K6BD. The course of history of the K6BD universe probably more largely concerns Zoss and the bindings he made with who-knows-how-many demons before or during his conquest of heaven. The taming of some (or a large part) of Yis's creation fire invested in demons/devils is probably a critical item in the How To Successfully Conquer The Universe checklist. I'm only a recent K6BD reader. Has the possibility that most of the devils in the universe are bound to Zoss come up? That the old ebon demon who lost the drinking contest completely lost his form because he broke not just his most recent binding to Allison, but also his original binding to Zoss? Tangent: https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/wielder-of-names-2-35/ Royalty is a continuous drinking motion.
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I love the drinking contest . Has anyone ever actually put that to music?
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Sadly no, but someone did a really cool rendition of Oscar's song from when he was assembling the crew for the heist. https://youtu.be/9u8fR6Q1oU0
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SniperWoreConverse posted:yeah he's not stopping time he's just that fast and strong Counts as speed hax, then. Same frustration after my spirit leaves my body. I'm not gonna fuss over what that type of movement would do to the air around him, though. I don't think the sides of the arena are gonna get hit with sonic booms- his martial arts breathing bullshit is way too precise for even a blade of grass to get rustled if he didn't want it to.
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Josef bugman posted:I think the worst thing is that Legalism kind of won. Ehhhh Sorry for the derail but this is something I really love. "Officially" speaking, Legalism was totally and utterly defeated with the rise of the Han dynasty. And, indeed, many of the principles laid out by Shang Yang and Han Feizi were never used by government again. Like, how the gently caress are you supposed to govern by this Book of Lord Shang posted:If in a country there are the following ten evils: rites, music, odes, history, virtue, moral culture, filial piety, brotherly duty, integrity and sophistry, the ruler cannot make the people fight and dismemberment is inevitable; and this brings extinction in its train. If the country has not these ten things and the ruler can make the people fight, he will be so prosperous that he will attain supremacy. A country where the virtuous govern the wicked, will suffer from disorder, so that it will be dismembered; but a country where the wicked govern the virtuous, will be orderly, so that it will become strong. That said, the issue with pure Confucian governance is that in practice, the Confucians didn't really have much to say about the day-to-day. Mengzi was the most preferred of the Confucians during the Han dynasty and for much of the Imperial period, and Mengzi's theory of government is that the emperor should just "be virtuous" (which, despite having re-read it just last week, is really vague), and then everybody in the kingdom will just spontaneously follow his example. There are some policy prescriptions that are straightforward (Mengzi endorses a Georgist single land value tax, which is just really funny to me for some reason), but for the most part it's an extremely weird libertarianism, almost anarcho-monarchism. If you were to ask an expert on the Mengzi how to handle corruption or a disease outbreak or a public works project, you'd get advice ranging from 'completely evasive' to 'impossible to implement.' The Legalists were, ultimately, the people around at the start of the Han who both had thought about and had actually practiced the nitty-gritty of stuff like 'taxes' and 'criminal justice.' So they were quietly hired into the Han government. Legalism stopped being a distinct school of thought and became a tendency within both Confucianism and Taoism, mostly to describe ministers who were bluntly pragmatic or favored punitive measures. But it would be inaccurate to describe it as either an independent school of thought or something that completely ate Confucianism from within - debates about state monopolies on salt (Han), currency printing (Tang), and penal enforcement (Ming) make it clear that neither the most hardline Confucians and Taoists nor the most flexible Legalists ever completely won.
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I was under the impression that Maya was, at one point, one of the demiurges. Others have belittled Incubus, essentially saying that the throne he claims isn't actually his. Incubus has also stated that whoever the other Gods believe owns Incubus's throne is a washed up old drunk.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Allison rides the lightning but Swolemon Reigns in Blood
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Which Metallica Album bset matches each Demiurge? Kill 'Em All: Allison, who will Kill Six Billion Demons! Ride the Lightning: Mottom, whose palace appears in a burst of lightning! Master of Puppets: The Grand Dragon, Mammon, uses his wealth to secure his power. ....And Justice for All: Solomon David, of course. Metallica: Nothing appeals to the masses like Gog-Agog or the black album Load: Gog-Agog sells out Reload: Gog-Agog also heard about selling out, and decided to do the same, but was sad that Gog-Agog did it first. St. Anger: I can think of no better album to represent Incubus, who is simultaneously the worst demiurge and pissed off about it. Death Magnetic: Jaggonath, dealer of death and destruction! Hardwired... to Self-Destruct: It's gotta be Jadis, who just wants to die!
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