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Dear lord. Unlocking fuel generators seems.... difficult. 100 heavy modular frames : Expensive but OK. 100 computers? Each computer needs 10 circuit boards? Each circuit board uses 4 plastic? I'll need 1000 circuit boards total, in addition to 5200 screws and 1800 plastic for the computers themselves? JEEZ GAME.
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Just do some exploring, you'll get 100 computers from crashed drop pods easily, that's what I did. Or use tickets.
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Apr 19, 2020 23:04
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Or set up production lines (even if they're not optimized) and go exploring for an hour.and come back later. Production is kind of the point of the game.
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Apr 19, 2020 23:08
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Yeah one of the weird things about that phase of the game is that it's very difficult to maintain two manufacturer factories on coal power. Once you have fuel up and running, maintaining your heavy modular frame and computer factories isn't that bad but the transition sucks.
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Apr 19, 2020 23:09
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Joda posted:Or set up production lines (even if they're not optimized) and go exploring for an hour.and come back later. Production is kind of the point of the game. Definitely. But sometimes it just makes sense to leapfrog the tech a little bit to get access to tools that'll help make the production line easier to build.
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Apr 19, 2020 23:30
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I built a self-contained computer building and fed it with entirely fresh resource nodes. Once my giant box of computers fills up I'll splice the ingots and such back into my main bus
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Apr 20, 2020 01:29
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cheetah7071 posted:Yeah one of the weird things about that phase of the game is that it's very difficult to maintain two manufacturer factories on coal power. Once you have fuel up and running, maintaining your heavy modular frame and computer factories isn't that bad but the transition sucks. I had to juggle but once I got my fuel up holy poo poo is it wonderful. But my factory is so massive and sprawls out over such a huge area I'm honestly starting to feel just a tiny bit overwhelmed with the amount of complexity going on here. Also I want to find crash sites without looking at a 3rd party map so I can explore myself, but it's frustrating as hell when the object scanner's range is pitifully tiny and also sites still show up once I loot them. But damnit I WANT COMPACTED COAL! khy fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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Apr 20, 2020 02:46
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khy posted:I had to juggle but once I got my fuel up holy poo poo is it wonderful. But my factory is so massive and sprawls out over such a huge area I'm honestly starting to feel just a tiny bit overwhelmed with the amount of complexity going on here. Also I want to find crash sites without looking at a 3rd party map so I can explore myself, but it's frustrating as hell when the object scanner's range is pitifully tiny and also sites still show up once I loot them. But damnit I WANT COMPACTED COAL! I use a 3rd party map and gotta say, even knowing where the crash sites are, they're challenging. A lot of em are in places that Really Suck and require climbing tall things, fighting powerful monsters, and/or dealing with poison gas (either from the flowers you can pipe bomb or the blob insect-den-looking-things that you can't pipe bomb away.) Nevermind some of em require ludicrous poo poo like turbo motors or being hooked up to hundreds of MW worth of power to open. It's actually made me come around on parachutes, cuz the easiest way to get to a lot of these is to plop down a couple biofuel gens, slam em full of leaves, and use em to power a hypertube cannon to just throw me high into the air in the general direction I wanna go. The parachute comes in when you wanna land without splattering into the terrain. Obviously you can use a jetpack instead but that's a lot further into the tech tree than parachutes. If you're really averse to using a third party map, try the parachutes + hypertube cannon method to get a nice Eye In The Sky view. Some tips I've picked up I wish I'd known earlier: * If you only need a LITTLE power somewhere (like to run a hypertube cannon or open a crashed ship that requires a reasonable amount of power) you can just slap down biofuel burners and shove leaves (or wood, or or or) in to get the required power for the necessary time period and hoover it all back up later. Or just leave it if you're a litterbug. * Similarly if you've just built a nice new coal power plant that your existing grid would fail to powerup (cuz of the draw of the miners and water pumps) you can just slap down biofuel burners full of leaves to kickstart the process. * You can drop more than one portable miner on a node, so that if you say find a sulfur node and wanna be able to pick up more than 100 sulfur per trip to the node, just throw down more portable miners on the same node. It's not like they're expensive or use power. * There's really no need to ever carry around portable miners. You can slap down an equipment workshop, make em on-site and hoover back up the equipment workshop when you're done. The workshop even requires the same poo poo as the miners, which is also the same poo poo (plates & rods!) the walkways need. * Walkways are faster and more convenient than foundations for trying to navigate problematically vertical terrain. And they're made from plates and rods that you already otherwise should be carrying around anyway. * Another option for dealing with problematically vertical terrain is to throw down those lookout towers and just make a series of foundations jutting out of rockfaces that ultimately support a lookout tower to "staircase" up that way. * Stackable conveyor poles and storage containers have ladders on the side and can similarly be used as "ladders" in a pinch. * If you've brought a vehicle along on an expedition out into the wilds, remember you can hoover it up too and slap it back down when/where convenient. That said, cars can survive some silly falls in this and if if rolls onto the roof just hoover it up and plop it back down. This also repairs it so that's how you "fix" a damaged car too. * Poison gas in your way? No gas mask? No problem just huff medicinal inhalers and tank it!
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Apr 20, 2020 03:33
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I always bring two stacks of iron rods and iron plates when exploring, being able to slap down a workshop anywhere means you can start out an outpost as long as you have resources nearby. I also bring six stacks of concrete, just to allow for wild bridges as required. Industrial storage containers have become my go-to for vertical ladders, they're much faster to build than stackable conveyor poles, and have a large platform on top so less risk of accidents. Even then, I enjoy trying out the jumping puzzles around the world occasionally.
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Apr 20, 2020 09:58
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chairface posted:dealing with poison gas (either from the flowers you can pipe bomb or the blob insect-den-looking-things that you can't pipe bomb away.)
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Apr 20, 2020 13:35
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The flowers that slowly stand up and once standing emit poison gas can be blown up to be removed. The gas emitters part of the terrain cannot.
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Apr 20, 2020 13:38
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... This doesn't change much but I'd given up when chainsaws didn't do the trick.
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Apr 20, 2020 13:41
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Those gas rocks are a buzz-killing gently caress and should be removable with upgraded explosives
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Apr 20, 2020 15:52
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I wouldn't mind if there were specific slots for the gas mask and radiation suit so you only needed to feed them filters. Take your pick of bladerunners or jetpack, fine, I can most deal with that and there's reasons and tradeoffs for both. Putting on a gas mask is just such pointless busywork I just ignore gassy areas.
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Apr 20, 2020 16:13
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zedprime posted:I wouldn't mind if there were specific slots for the gas mask and radiation suit so you only needed to feed them filters. Take your pick of bladerunners or jetpack, fine, I can most deal with that and there's reasons and tradeoffs for both. Putting on a gas mask is just such pointless busywork I just ignore gassy areas. saaame. the worst part is when you put on the gas mask, do your thing, head home - say, by yeet cannon - and oh forgot to re-equip my jetpack time to redo the last five minutes 
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Apr 20, 2020 16:21
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As for getting hard drives or climbing in general, don't overlook belts. They can be a really quick way to get up a hill.
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Apr 20, 2020 17:04
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No matter how much concrete I bring when exploring, it's never enough
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Apr 20, 2020 18:37
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Limestone is everywhere. Very little reason not to drop a biofuel gen and a miner and concrete maker everywhere. Top it up with biomass in exchange for concrete.
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Apr 20, 2020 18:48
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zedprime posted:Limestone is everywhere. Very little reason not to drop a biofuel gen and a miner and concrete maker everywhere. Top it up with biomass in exchange for concrete. You're like johnny appleseed with mining setups. I'd much rather have it all in one place, take a few trips if needed. But what I really want is delivery drones like factorio to keep me topped up with select items.
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Apr 20, 2020 18:51
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Fun fact the MAM is global. If you’re out exploring and have a drive just plop a second MAM down and shove it in. Disassemble the mam and keep exploring. Repeat every 10m so you don’t have to spend an extra couple of hours decrypting your drives when you get back to base.
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Apr 20, 2020 19:07
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TK-42-1 posted:Fun fact the MAM is global. If you’re out exploring and have a drive just plop a second MAM down and shove it in. Disassemble the mam and keep exploring. Repeat every 10m so you don’t have to spend an extra couple of hours decrypting your drives when you get back to base. This is also helpful for having the entire group decide on what to choose when playing multiplayer
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Apr 20, 2020 19:08
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chairface posted:That said, cars can survive some silly falls in this and if if rolls onto the roof just hoover it up and plop it back down. You can just press E to flip a vehicle that's on it's roof. My gasmask gripe is that they don't work when you're driving.
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Apr 20, 2020 19:27
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LifeSunDeath posted:You're like johnny appleseed with mining setups. I'd much rather have it all in one place, take a few trips if needed. But what I really want is delivery drones like factorio to keep me topped up with select items. But seriously 95% of what you want to build exploring (or even outposting) is mono raw material. Only getting concrete and plates from a home base but they are made of the most common bullshit on the map seems limiting. Plenty of reason to centralize building of stuff by the time you are making motors and turbomotors.
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Apr 20, 2020 19:39
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TK-42-1 posted:Fun fact the MAM is global. If you’re out exploring and have a drive just plop a second MAM down and shove it in. Disassemble the mam and keep exploring. Repeat every 10m so you don’t have to spend an extra couple of hours decrypting your drives when you get back to base. My doppelganger! Content: I'm also starting to pump oil and think about making the switch to fuel and it killed my momentum. I feel like I need a solid uninterrupted 3 or 4 hours to make time switch lest I forget everything I was working on if I leave it for a few days.
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Apr 20, 2020 22:33
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The radar tower is completely useless compared to cannon-yeeting isn't it
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Apr 21, 2020 19:32
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The radar tower would make sense if there were objects you had to track, or there was fog-of-war (exploitation?) on the map. As it is, it's mostly just a taller tower than the small one.
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Apr 21, 2020 19:37
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The radar tower should permanently mark all resources in its reach, including slugs and hard drives with an upgrade.
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Apr 21, 2020 21:37
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The radar tower should track spiders' movement so my satellite can laser strike them from orbit.
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Apr 21, 2020 21:50
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Have they said when this is coming to steam yet?
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Apr 21, 2020 21:58
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This is the latest I've heard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmKMv6SZJ5M TLDW: "Sometime in May, folks".
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Apr 21, 2020 23:38
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There’s something immensely satisfying about nailing one of those scuttly little fucks with a 2-foot long lance of superheated rebar. I love how they made even the ‘basic and lovely pistol’ gun utterly terrifying once you figure it out a bit.
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Apr 22, 2020 01:13
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https://www.eventproductions.london/360tours/SatisfactoryV1/
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Apr 22, 2020 05:49
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Is it worth building a main bus? I don't have a great deal of time to play, so I've been chipping away at this game very slowly, and finally reached the point where I'd want to make heavy modular frames. I'm thinking it's time to untangle all these noodles. Never played Factorio before so I'm not really well-versed, and I see a lot of people saying a main bus isn't really worth it, just build stuff on site instead.
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Hungry posted:Is it worth building a main bus? I don't have a great deal of time to play, so I've been chipping away at this game very slowly, and finally reached the point where I'd want to make heavy modular frames. I'm thinking it's time to untangle all these noodles. Never played Factorio before so I'm not really well-versed, and I see a lot of people saying a main bus isn't really worth it, just build stuff on site instead. You've never played factorio but you know about main buses? Yeah other than making a massive nuclear plant, I don't think you'd ever need a main bus. In factorio it was important cause resources ran out, so you needed a good way to pipe in new nodes when you got them. In satisfactory you never run out, so it's more about efficiency, which isn't super important as you can get all the research done without anything remotely like a main bus.
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At least the low tier products you definitely don't want to bus: Ores, plates, rods, screws, wire, and similar are needed in much larger quantities than belts can practically move long distances. It might work for middle tier products, i.e. you should have facilities that take raw materials in and spit middle tier products out.
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Apr 23, 2020 14:07
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LifeSunDeath posted:You've never played factorio but you know about main buses? I watched some youtube videos! Also, thank you.
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Apr 23, 2020 14:09
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Hungry posted:I watched some youtube videos! I'm just laughing cause I did a full playthrough of early access factorio, had no idea what I was doing, then came back years later and looked up tips and people were going on and on about main buses...my mind was blown. I still don't know how to fully utilize them, I built some but never got my splitters to work efficiently enough..it was just a mess, so I went back to spaghetti and drones.
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Apr 23, 2020 14:14
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I only bus raw ingredients, one per column. That way as I go I can upgrade belts and stack more. Under the factory floor is a sort of return bus that brings finished products back to my storage area.
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Apr 23, 2020 18:20
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Buses would useful if the amount of materials needed made absolutely any sense. But when something needs 2 plates and 20 boxes of screws, you're going to get backed up. I doubt this game will ever be advanced enough to make any other build style viable besides making a big sprawled out contraption that makes every single part needed for what you need in the end. There are lots of cool tools available in this game but they are absolutely worthless because the game is balanced to only work with one play style.
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Every time I think about how nice it would be to train in all my raw resources to a central location, I remember that connecting assemblers/refiners that need two different raw ingredients will still be a spaghettifest
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