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Can antibodies be synthesized? I know they've shown some promising results in NY but are limited by donor supply and apheresis machines. I'm guessing "no" bc they've been relying on plasma donors all this time but maybe somebody knows more?
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Cacafuego posted:Yep, 12 months seems a bit too short, and 18 months sounds possible from what I'm hearing, however, there's no long term info on the effects. If it's approved, will it stop you from getting COVID in the next 2 years, maybe. Will you have chronic <fill in the blank> disease 10 years from now due to the vaccine, likely not, but also maybe. We won't know until enough time passes. Exactly. Skipping steps in trials could very well screw us over even more. Even a non 0 chance of that is risky as hell to me personally, but that's one of those calls you'd have to make if and when we get to that point. Same with testing, the other bastion of resuming normalcy. No one really talks about logistics when you'd need daily testing. I take the test monday, I'm clear, but if I get it tuesday and am asymptomatic what was the point of testing me monday and going about like all is fine. I have yet to hear anyone address this in any of the daily press conferences...but you can't avoid it, it's a pretty big lynchpin in testing people...something we already have an issue with before implementing a large scale daily version en masse at low or no cost. I'm not trying to be a doom and gloomer whatsoever seriously, I'm just trying to be realistic while still staying optimistic.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Can antibodies be synthesized? I know they've shown some promising results in NY but are limited by donor supply and apheresis machines. Maybe, but it in high-concentration places like NY it would be futile since there are increasing amount of naturally available antibodies. And in the rest of the places the antibodies are the last line of defense because they can carry a wealth of other problems with them.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Can antibodies be synthesized? I know they've shown some promising results in NY but are limited by donor supply and apheresis machines. What’s wrong with drinking cure blood?
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Donal Trumo gave you shitbags the greatest economy the world has ever seen and you want to destroy it by sitting at home playing Animal Crossing and getting Cheeto dust all over your tiny greasy dicks because you’re afraid of a little flu you people make me sick
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Can antibodies be synthesized? I know they've shown some promising results in NY but are limited by donor supply and apheresis machines. They can be and it's the basis for lots of cancer treatments but for a brand new emergent disease it's a treatment that's years off
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Xenocides posted:Just-World Fallacy. The worst and even just the bad case scenarios are unthinkable and unfair and therefore they will not happen. LOl we are just at the beginning of this thing, if we are really lucky, as in winning lottery lucky, we have at least 8 months left of this poo poo. If everything goes well, about 14 months. After that it's playing Nostradamus, of course there can be drugs found that help fight this, but so far they are high risk that can also give permanent organ damage on top of the covid at best, and not efficient at all that also give permanent damage to the organs at worst. Also there is the fact that you could, could, as it's not sure if it's an actual thing or just bad testing that still detect neutralized RNA strand and not the actual virus, catch the roni a second time, which is scary and neutralize herd immunity. Bleusilences fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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Bleusilences posted:LOl we are just at the beginning of this thing, if we are really lucky, as in winning lottery lucky, we have at least 8 months left of this poo poo. If everything goes well, about 14 months. After that it's playing Nostradamus, of course there can be drugs found that help fight this, but so far they are high risk that can also give permanent organ damage on top of the covid at best, and not efficient at all that also give permanent damage to the organs at worst. Also there is the fact that you could catch the roni a second time, which is scary and neutralize herd immunity. I don't think the person you quoted is saying what you think they're saying. Also it is not a "fact" that you can get it a second time. Don't spread misinformation to satiate your doomer fantasies
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goethe.cx posted:I don't think the person you quoted is saying what you think they're saying. Also it is not a "fact" that you can get it a second time. Don't spread misinformation to satiate your doomer fantasies I know, I also corrected myself and explain what I mean by could.
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it really sucks this was a virus and not something bacterial the world is ready to start phage therapy for bacterial infections and it would have led to a huge global scientific boom if we could turn efforts in that direction elimination of antibiotics, healthier livestock, better food, etc oh well
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you gotta respect a virus as an organism...they are clever lil fuckers that aren't even technically "alive" just in an in-between state with a mission e: and could very well predate almost everything else on this planet to boot quote:According to Caetano-Anolles’s microbial family tree, viruses are ancient – but they were not the first form of life. In fact, his family tree suggests viruses and bacteria share a common ancestor – a fully functioning, self-replicating cell that lived around 3.4 billion years ago, shortly after life first emerged on the planet. From this cell, bacteria have evolved in the direction of increasing complexity, while viruses have gradually shed genes they found they didn’t need – until they could no longer even reproduce on their own. zer0spunk fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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I like when people argue over definitions of life. I'm just like "sure whatever, a prion is life too"
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bird with big dick posted:Donal Trumo gave you shitbags the greatest economy the world has ever seen and you want to destroy it by sitting at home playing Animal Crossing and getting Cheeto dust all over your tiny greasy dicks because you’re afraid of a little flu you people make me sick umm excuse me, this is a Doritos Cool Ranch household
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bird with big dick posted:your tiny greasy dicks You're one to talk, mushroom man
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zer0spunk posted:you gotta respect a virus as an organism...they are clever lil fuckers that aren't even technically "alive" just in an in-between state with a mission vanmpire
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naem posted:vanmpire  xxxXdeathflowerXxxx
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GolfHole posted:it really sucks this was a virus and not something bacterial Aren't virophages a thing?
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i'm just going to hope that covid-19 mutates into a much more contagious but much less harmful-to-humans version of itself it's a win win virus, let's negotiate
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wyoak posted:i'm just going to hope that covid-19 mutates into a much more contagious but much less harmful-to-humans version of itself 
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wyoak posted:i'm just going to hope that covid-19 mutates into a much more contagious but much less harmful-to-humans version of itself https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080771/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study Coronavirus’s ability to mutate has been vastly underestimated, and mutations affect deadliness of strains, Chinese study finds The most aggressive strains of Sars-CoV-2 could generate 270 times as much viral load as the least potent type New York may have a deadlier strain imported from Europe, compared to less deadly viruses elsewhere in the United States
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Looks like Georgia is going to shoot for the moon. Highlights of the Governor's press conference: - Elective medical procedures are being allowed again, since the Governor thinks hospitals are losing too much money - Gyms, Barbers, Massage Parlors (lol), and other businesses that are losing too much money can reopen on the 24th. - Professionals told him to do all of this so it's not his fault if this goes bad since "healthcare professionals" are involved at every step - Georgians need to get back to work - Shelter in Place will not be extended and will expire in 10 days
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^^^^ sorry about your dumbass governorLotti Fuehrscheim posted:https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080771/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study that would certainly explain the huge variation in symptom severity. but i've also seen studies saying that it mutates very slowly and there's really only one "strain"
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Lotti Fuehrscheim posted:https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080771/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study Are the strains mutually exclusive in the same person?
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goethe.cx posted:I don't think the person you quoted is saying what you think they're saying. Also it is not a "fact" that you can get it a second time. Don't spread misinformation to satiate your doomer fantasies Let's just be clear here; temporary immunity is not well enough understood to to conclude either way on "getting it a second time". It would be unusual for a coronavirus to produce long term immunity; take that as you will..
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Looks like Georgia is going to shoot for the moon. My only hope here is that other governors will wait and watch this to see how catastrophic this gets in a month or so, but lol that ain't gonna happen and we are all just going to be turbo hosed and back to square one by june
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Lotti Fuehrscheim posted:https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080771/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study quote:The researchers also found three consecutive changes – known as tri-nucleotide mutations – in a 60-year-old patient, which was a rare event. Usually the genes mutated at one site at a time. This patient spent more than 50 days in hospital, much longer than other Covid-19 patients, and even his faeces were infectious with living viral strains.
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GolfHole posted:every single instance of outbreak in history suggests not only will we be socially distancing until 2022, we'll be doing it again in 2024-25, 2030, and then once more in 2045 The only thing I've actually seen on this is 2022 and that's from that write up. Do you have any sources for this?
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Looks like Georgia is going to shoot for the moon. What did I loving say earlier today. I knew it. Thread title is 100% accurate.
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The Devil went down to Georgia and THIS is what he said...Rectal Death Adept posted:- Elective medical procedures are being allowed again, since the Governor thinks hospitals are losing too much money
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Lotti Fuehrscheim posted:https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080771/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study
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when viruses do mutate, they tend to become less deadly. the strains that become more deadly don't spread very far
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tyrelhill posted:i have done extensive research on the internet, therefore...
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I'm looking over this CARES act stuff because I'm an unfortunate full time essential worker in one of the highest rate areas of PA and probably doomed. If/when I get Coronavirus I'll have to quarantine for two weeks and my employer (less than 500 people) will have to pay me for the 80 hours. Are they allowed to use my normally earned vacation/sick time before the CARES act time off? It doesn't seem clear to me from anything I've read. Any good read the specifically explains this?
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Looks like Georgia is going to shoot for the moon. Looks like georgia is gonna end it all with a happy ending.
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Chomp8645 posted:The Devil went down to Georgia and THIS is what he said... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnZXdlIXXfE next up...
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Niwrad posted:Question on re-using masks. I have a few old N95 masks I had bought for home improvement years ago. Could I rotate them out if I'm only going shopping once a week? One week is generally considered to be enough, two weeks should be plenty.
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