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I was re-reading one piece and this scene, in light of the most recent flashback, ooof:
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Apr 20, 2020 05:31
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My personal theory is that the genetic treatment on Sanji worked a little bit better than anyone noticed at the time. We know the drug his mother gave him to counter it out doesn't work 100% because she tried it on his brothers and it didn't take at all. It didn't totally prevent the changes in Sanji, it just meant that rather than gaining powers and losing his emotions, he gained powers he can only use when he's incredibly emotional. Literally every time we have seen Sanji use his fire powers, it's been associated with intense emotion. I don't think he's ever used Diable Jambe without being incredibly pissed off, and if he does that's only after he masters it. Hell Memories is explicitly about his anger setting him on fire. At first I thought this wasn't as cool as Sanji having those powers without the treatment, but then I realized, if the above is true then Judge is a loving retard because he didn't actually have to do that to his children at all, his wife was right from the start and he could have avoided emotionally mutilating his children if he'd trusted her and dosed her drug himself. He also would have had stronger kids this way. He hosed everything up for no reason.
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Apr 20, 2020 05:31
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I thought Zoro had cool weird multi-head powers because he is cursed 
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Apr 20, 2020 05:36
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Tolth posted:My personal theory is that the genetic treatment on Sanji worked a little bit better than anyone noticed at the time. We know the drug his mother gave him to counter it out doesn't work 100% because she tried it on his brothers and it didn't take at all. It didn't totally prevent the changes in Sanji, it just meant that rather than gaining powers and losing his emotions, he gained powers he can only use when he's incredibly emotional. I mean the guy who taught Sanji how to fight was "Red Leg" Zeff so I think it's likely Diable Jambe is a Zeff original technique.
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Apr 20, 2020 05:53
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My scientific & canonical explanation for every One Piece powerup: Don't worry about it, it's fun and cool
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Apr 20, 2020 06:16
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If you're wondering how that dude's leg loving caught on fire holy poo poo that owns and other science facts, just repeat to yourself it's just a comic, I should really just relax.
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Apr 20, 2020 06:32
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Funky Valentine posted:If you're wondering how that dude's leg loving caught on fire holy poo poo that owns and other science facts, just repeat to yourself it's just a comic, I should really just relax. I'm gonna post about One Piece in the One Piece thread. Sorry.
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Apr 20, 2020 08:06
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It's because his heart burns hotter than the flames.
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Apr 20, 2020 08:09
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alkanphel posted:Yeah I think that's probably because the Yonkou are more integral to the main plot line while the Shichibukai are just supplementary to the main plot. I do not think it was an accident that Alvida - the first named pirate Luffy faces off against - and Kaidou both wield a spiked club as their main weapon. It's a nice poetic bookend.
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Apr 20, 2020 10:36
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I don’t think Enies Lobby would have been better if there was some kind of training arc
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Apr 20, 2020 12:45
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I mean the guy who taught Sanji how to fight was "Red Leg" Zeff so I think it's likely Diable Jambe is a Zeff original technique. His name was because his shoes were permanently stained with the blood of his enemies officially.
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Apr 20, 2020 13:02
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Julias posted:He's good at settings and themes, and can definitely pull off great arcs like water 7, but his pacing can be kind of bad, he's bad at character development for most of the main cast, and especially post timeskip has made multiple really questionable writing choices (Birdcage, Big Mom Amnesia, Sabo Amnesia) big mom amnesia lasted like 4 chapters and was mostly just for comedic effect which I think is fine
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Apr 20, 2020 14:18
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Big mom amnesia played a big part in the prison break. Queen was effectively nullified by her
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Brother Entropy posted:also i'd argue that oda isn't 'bad' at character development so much as that the strawhats' time for character development ended with the timeskip and that that's fine. they're all who they need to be and they've conquered whatever internal doubts they might've faced up till then Usopp's whole goal is character development, and he actually seemed to regress a bit in Dressrosa. And Chopper and Zoro have both become actively worse characters after the time skip. (Sanji too at first, but he improved.)
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Apr 20, 2020 15:13
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Julias posted:He's good at settings and themes, and can definitely pull off great arcs like water 7, but his pacing can be kind of bad, he's bad at character development for most of the main cast, and especially post timeskip has made multiple really questionable writing choices (Birdcage, Big Mom Amnesia, Sabo Amnesia) Big Mom Amnesia was fantastic though
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Apr 20, 2020 15:39
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Silver2195 posted:Usopp's whole goal is character development, and he actually seemed to regress a bit in Dressrosa. And Chopper and Zoro have both become actively worse characters after the time skip. (Sanji too at first, but he improved.) Eh, I wouldn’t really say Usopp really regressed because he did come back for the Tontotta (?) without being bullied into it when he probably knew the outcome. And I don’t really see how Zoro became worse, because his character is still “stoic, really strong sometimes funny man” bit which hasn’t really changed since East Blue (and thank god for that), except that he gets barely any screen time now because he just kind of destroys everything that tries to stop or even slightly impede him now.
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Apr 20, 2020 16:13
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RuBisCO posted:I was re-reading one piece and this scene, in light of the most recent flashback, ooof: It's kinda funny that both Momonosuke and Oden existed as mysterious shadow figures for a while.
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Apr 20, 2020 16:18
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:I don’t think Enies Lobby would have been better if there was some kind of training arc To clarify: I agree with you, and didn't mean to say that my perspective of second/third gears being an rear end-pull was a bad thing. I think the occasional rear end-pull is fine, and as long as it fits the narrative and works for dramatic timing it doesn't matter. I totally believe Luffy coming up with the gears, so it wasn't really an "rear end-pull" but it did feel a bit like Oda hand-waving Luffy suddenly having these new powers, which is a minor critique at best and solving it may have damaged the series elsewhere, such as by adding a training arc to Enies Lobby. I will also concede I forgot that Luffy was inspired by the CP9 members.
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Apr 20, 2020 16:33
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It's weird they developed all new never before seen powers in the like 2 hour train ride to Enies Lobby but you can sort of wave that off and even understand how they'd develop such powers. Then Zoro grows 2 heads.
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Apr 20, 2020 16:39
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Ryaomon posted:It's weird they developed all new never before seen powers in the like 2 hour train ride to Enies Lobby but you can sort of wave that off and even understand how they'd develop such powers. Zoro's always had weird magic powers that come from being Good At Swords, like firing shockwaves and whatnot. It's just another one of those. What's he supposed to be learning? Some grounded like how to parry better? That whole fight with Kaku is actually about Kaku learning about his new devil fruit and developing the limitless destructive potential of the giraffe. He's secretly the underdog the whole time. The only question is how long he can hold out until Zoro pulls out some bullshit that will instantly wreck him, as has been the pattern with basically every Zoro fight since Mihawk.
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Apr 20, 2020 16:44
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rannum posted:Big Mom Amnesia was fantastic though It was one of the few times the Amnesia plot device worked out, a little surprised he didn't keep it running longer during the arc.
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Apr 20, 2020 17:30
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every time I come into this thread there's a brand new "actually I don't like One Piece" conversation and it baffles me
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Apr 20, 2020 18:23
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Bleck posted:every time I come into this thread there's a brand new "actually I don't like One Piece" conversation and it baffles me Break weeks are terrible.
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Apr 20, 2020 18:51
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I have paid exactly zero attention to Zoro's sword techniques and couldn't tell you what any of them are called, what they do or what they look like, beyond posing with a bunch of swords while people fall over in the background. This is probably why I have never cared about any fight he's been in, except for Pica because slicing a mountain apart looked cool as poo poo and was very unique.
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Apr 20, 2020 19:21
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https://www.polygon.com/2020/4/20/21227882/one-piece-digimon-adventure-my-hero-academia-pokemon-anime-delays-coronavirus Maybe now the One Piece anime can take a break.
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Apr 20, 2020 19:35
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I have paid exactly zero attention to Zoro's sword techniques and couldn't tell you what any of them are called, what they do or what they look like, beyond posing with a bunch of swords while people fall over in the background. part of the problem there is that a lot of zoro's sword techniques are japanese food puns that can't be easily translated, so they just stay japanese phrases that mean nothing to you if you don't know japanese
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Apr 20, 2020 20:12
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For his standard attacks I remember Oni giri (Demon Slash/Rice ball) and that there were various iterations on the canon attack as it got more powerful, but that's about it.
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Apr 20, 2020 20:19
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I think my brain just skips over Sabo whenever I see him. He’s just a revolutionary who works with Luffy’s dad and he gets on with Luffy. Wait where are you going, no no don’t look up his backstory.
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Apr 20, 2020 20:57
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I feel like Zoro's fights haven't been super interestinf to me since the Mr. 1 fight. The Kaku fight is cool though.
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Apr 20, 2020 21:12
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Mraagvpeine posted:https://www.polygon.com/2020/4/20/21227882/one-piece-digimon-adventure-my-hero-academia-pokemon-anime-delays-coronavirus So does that mean they lose that primetime slot or whatever the usual reason was to not let one piece turn into a seasonal show?
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Apr 20, 2020 21:17
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Raposa posted:So does that mean they lose that primetime slot or whatever the usual reason was to not let one piece turn into a seasonal show? No, they're doing reruns of older eps of One Piece.
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Apr 20, 2020 21:27
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im unironically convinced that one piece is at an all-series high rn, with the whitebeard war era and the enies lobby era shortly behind there are def criticisms to be had of one piece but its highs are ludicrously high and the lows are still easy reading so not a lot really to complaina bout
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Apr 20, 2020 21:45
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Brother Entropy posted:part of the problem there is that a lot of zoro's sword techniques are japanese food puns that can't be easily translated, so they just stay japanese phrases that mean nothing to you if you don't know japanese Eh, I barely remember technique names as it is, so that wouldn't help. I remember them entirely based on how they look, like Luffy has a straight punch and a rapid fire punch and a big fist punch and that one that looks like an organ. Brook has icy sword, the really fast one where he puts his sword away and the person falls over, and the Soul King attack from Whole Cake Island. Sanji has air walk, regular kick and fiery kick. So with Zoro in particular, all I see is Zoro posing with swords and they might as well be the same attack. My brain just completely glazes over the speech bubble announcing the names.
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Apr 20, 2020 21:49
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The best move Luffy made was gomu gomu no ufo
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Apr 20, 2020 21:56
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tbp posted:im unironically convinced that one piece is at an all-series high rn, with the whitebeard war era and the enies lobby era shortly behind agreed
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Begemot posted:Zoro's always had weird magic powers that come from being Good At Swords, like firing shockwaves and whatnot. It's just another one of those. What's he supposed to be learning? Some grounded like how to parry better? Haha this is a great way to view zoros fights. How long can the enemy hold up until zoro cuts em and beats em. 3 Slash-man
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Apr 20, 2020 22:48
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People can kick so fast they can fly and you're annoyed by someone moving his body parts so fast that it leaves after images?
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tbp posted:im unironically convinced that one piece is at an all-series high rn, with the whitebeard war era and the enies lobby era shortly behind We haven't quite reached the highest highs of Ennies Lobby but I cannot deny we're currently in the best run overall. Ever since the minks showed up, One Piece has been consistently good.
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Where is Caesar these days? I started to like having him around.
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