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I'm playing through the demo and DQXI seems like the video game equivalent of pizza rolls: not necessarily amazing, but extremely familiar and comfort. Is this a good synopsis of the game's feel?
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# ? Apr 19, 2020 14:38 |
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It might be low-hanging fruit, but I love that Hendrik shows moments of just being a weirdo like everybody else when they let their guard down.
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# ? Apr 19, 2020 14:40 |
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Rhadamanthus posted:I'm playing through the demo and DQXI seems like the video game equivalent of pizza rolls: not necessarily amazing, but extremely familiar and comfort. It's been often described as comfort food for the JRPG fan so, yes. It's pretty much dead-on. DQXI is a game that feels like it was made in 1996 and 2018 simultaneously, somehow.
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# ? Apr 19, 2020 14:45 |
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Heithinn Grasida posted:I just started act 2 and while I absolutely loved the starting part with Sylvando, in fact I love pretty much everything about Sylvando. The part directly following that definitely grossed me out and left a bad taste in my mouth. yeah that is the low point of the game by far everything after it is great, at least
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# ? Apr 19, 2020 15:32 |
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Rhadamanthus posted:I'm playing through the demo and DQXI seems like the video game equivalent of pizza rolls: not necessarily amazing, but extremely familiar and comfort. It's a gourmet pizza roll
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# ? Apr 19, 2020 19:40 |
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It's a calzone, freshly baked by your Italian grandmother.
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# ? Apr 19, 2020 20:26 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:It's a calzone, freshly baked by your Italian grandmother. Yeah this. DQ games are great like that. 11 is probably the best one ever although my heart still belongs to 8.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 13:53 |
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Just finished up Erik's personal quest in Act 2. That was loving great. I love this game.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 14:11 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:It's a calzone, freshly baked by your Italian grandmother. Elephant Ambush posted:Yeah this. DQ games are great like that. 11 is probably the best one ever although my heart still belongs to 8. Thought you were the same person for a second.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 16:23 |
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Orange Crush Rush posted:It's been often described as comfort food for the JRPG fan so, yes. It's pretty much dead-on. I haven’t been a JRPG fan in a long time, but I’m really enjoying this game. It doesn’t try to do anything particularly new or unique at all, in fact, except for very slightly with Sylvando, it feels like it sets out to avoid doing anything that hasn’t been done before. But each individual (extremely generic) aspect of the game is so masterfully executed that the whole thing hangs together remarkably well. It’s not just a salty, gooey pizza roll, it’s also the glass of cool, clear water that comes with it and washes things down. Hendrick finally smiled at me and I, the player, smiled right back. Heithinn Grasida fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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I've been making every recipe as I find them. Even if I don't have the mats. I just spend the gold to buy what is missing. So far I haven't seen an item that was more than a small upgrade over what I am making. Am I screwing up by wasting gold when I could just farm the items? It seems that farming gold is easier, though slower for the pricier stuff.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 20:10 |
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Heithinn Grasida posted:I haven’t been a JRPG fan in a long time, but I’m really enjoying this game. It doesn’t try to do anything particularly new or unique at all, in fact, except for very slightly with Sylvando, it feels like it sets out to avoid doing anything that hasn’t been done before. But each individual (extremely generic) aspect of the game is so masterfully executed that the whole thing hangs together remarkably well. It’s not just a salty, gooey pizza roll, it’s also the glass of cool, clear water that comes with it and washes things down. To be honest, having an RPG game that is this "traditional" in almost everything it does is kind of a breath of fresh air these days, like it's so old it's new. I've said it earlier in the thread, but sometimes you just want a game where the Knight slays the Dragon to save the Princess, y'know?
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# ? Apr 21, 2020 00:16 |
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For as much as current DQs feel like classic throwbacks, it's worth mentioning that their story and gameplay beats have historically been fairly groundbreaking and emblematic in a number of ways. DQ4 had what I'm pretty sure was the first transforming final boss in a console RPG. You chopped its arms off and it lost its punch attacks and just did breath weapons until eventually growing a new, bigger pair of arms as you did more damage. You chopped its legs off and it grew bigger ones. You chopped its head off and it did a whole animated evolution sequence of growing a new head and forming a secondary face in its torso. For an NES game that was metal as hell. DQ5 set you up to think you were the hero, but then when you get the cool hero sword, you can't even equip it. But if you try to have your later son equip it, it works! They don't spell this out in game (IIRC). It's a plot twist told purely through gameplay mechanics.
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# ? Apr 21, 2020 01:32 |
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Hokuto posted:DQ5 set you up to think you were the hero, but then when you get the cool hero sword, you can't even equip it. But if you try to have your later son equip it, it works! They don't spell this out in game (IIRC). It's a plot twist told purely through gameplay mechanics. It's stated outright when you're broken out of the stone curse. IIRC your son tells you he was able to wear one of the pieces of Zenithian equipment (helm, I think). At least it was in the SFC version, maybe the DS/mobile remakes removed that though. I think the Zoma reveal in DQ3 was the first RPG to do a "surprise, there's a bigger bad behind the curtain." PC RPGs were pretty straightforward in who their big bads were and the closest thing I can think of is Chaos in FF1, and that's not so much a "mastermind behind everything" as a "this is why you don't try to do time travel as an 11th hour plot device." Plus you already met the final boss right after starting the game.
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# ? Apr 21, 2020 04:10 |
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Waltzing Along posted:I've been making every recipe as I find them. Even if I don't have the mats. I just spend the gold to buy what is missing. So far I haven't seen an item that was more than a small upgrade over what I am making. Am I screwing up by wasting gold when I could just farm the items? It seems that farming gold is easier, though slower for the pricier stuff. Eventually you'll be able to farm gold very easily so don't worry about it too much. Everything respawns so you can eventually get the materials again. Keep in mind that you can't buy every material. Some materials cannot be bought and must be found.
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# ? Apr 21, 2020 04:50 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:It's stated outright when you're broken out of the stone curse. IIRC your son tells you he was able to wear one of the pieces of Zenithian equipment (helm, I think). At least it was in the SFC version, maybe the DS/mobile remakes removed that though. Thanks for the correction, it's been ages for me. Chaos in FF1 was a good twist at the time too, actually. "Hey remember me, the first boss? HEH JOKE'S ON YOU." But the Alefgard twist in DQ3 was also huge at the time.
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# ? Apr 21, 2020 05:59 |
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Hokuto posted:For as much as current DQs feel like classic throwbacks, it's worth mentioning that their story and gameplay beats have historically been fairly groundbreaking and emblematic in a number of ways. The absolute flood of DLC for DQIX was ahead of the curve. I can't think of many games of that period that had that. OhFunny fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Apr 21, 2020 |
# ? Apr 21, 2020 08:09 |
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I got Serena back! Only one to go and I've got the band back toget- On the plus side, I have a sky whale now Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Apr 22, 2020 |
# ? Apr 22, 2020 10:11 |
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Well, I did NOT see that twist coming. 37 hours in and said done for the day. We'll see how things shake out tomorrow. Get it, tree fall = shake. Oh ho ho ho.
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# ? Apr 25, 2020 05:00 |
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I've reached a point where I'm supposedly assailing the final fortress for the final confrontation with the final bad guy but you're not gonna fool me again, game!
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# ? Apr 25, 2020 05:36 |
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Jerusalem posted:I've reached a point where I'm supposedly assailing the final fortress for the final confrontation with the final bad guy but you're not gonna fool me again, game!
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# ? Apr 25, 2020 15:19 |
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I defeated Mordegon, then went back in time and defeated him again and saved Veronica and all is good and great and I'm so happWHAT THE gently caress IS THAT THING THAT JUST COMBINED OUTSIDE GALLOPOLIS!?! This game is so loving good.
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# ? Apr 26, 2020 11:25 |
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Told you there weren't any bad guys left! I do have some complaints about how they handled time travel but it's good enough for the plot.
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# ? Apr 26, 2020 11:44 |
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are act 2 sidequests still doable in act 3 or should i go ahead and try to do them all now?
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 16:25 |
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you can do all of them in act 3 but drat that would probably be really tedious
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 16:32 |
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It's generally best to do them in the same act that you unlock them, though not strictly necessary.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 16:45 |
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Once I got through the awful Sylvando section I've been really enjoying this second part of the game. Except I am very sick of being put on rails from location to location. I'd like to be able to wander around a bit or at least choose my path. I'm about to Octagonia.
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 09:32 |
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What? That Sylvando section rules
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 13:07 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:What? That Sylvando section rules My son has been playing it and he was asking me how long it was going to take and I sat there and had to think and was like "I don't remember that!" since I played it on PC. I think those sections kind of break up the flow of the game in a negative way but I also like them at the same time. I wish instead of playing them between acts you got to play them out after you reclaim that character.
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 13:30 |
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I didn't like Sylvando all that much when he first showed up but he quickly legit became my favorite character.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 04:26 |
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I didn't like the Sylvando section for two main reason. The first is that it took me out of the game completely. It is on rails and I felt like an observer and not an active participant. The second is I find the flaming homosexual stereotype to be overdone. I like how Mass Effect 3 handled a gay character. He was just a normal person, like most gay folks. I can see how some people would like it. It just wasn't for me and I couldn't wait for it to end.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 05:55 |
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sylvando is the only person who joins the party because it is the right thing to do. everyone else felt obligated. he's a super campy gay man who also lowkey lives by the code of knighthood, and that's rad.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 12:27 |
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The best thing about Sylvando is that even if he's gay (they never say) he's not that annoying stereotypical gay man who says nothing but catty flirtatious stuff and is always hitting on everyone. He calls everyone Darling regardless of gender and most of his dialogue is expressing how much he genuinely cares for other people and how he wants a better world for everyone.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 15:18 |
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My wife was like "Why is his assistant a gimp?" And I was like "Oh no that's not what you think. In dragon quest every tradesman is a gimp" Edit: to be clear this had nothing to do with gayness. A gimp can be any gender or sexuality John Wick of Dogs fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Apr 29, 2020 |
# ? Apr 29, 2020 15:27 |
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Please stop posting bizarre things about gay people, thank you.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 15:42 |
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Waltzing Along posted:I like how Mass Effect 3 handled a gay character. He was just a normal person, like most gay folks. See, that's what I said, but no, the most common complaint I hear about gay representation is "They just said he was gay and that's it? If he could be straight and it wouldn't have any effect on his character or plot, then it's not representation!" Sylvando is campy, but whether he's gay or not ultimately makes no difference - he never (despite what you may have heard in this thread) stops and goes "Okay, time to go suck dicks, because I'm so gay!" He's just out-there and, like Elephant Ambush said, is completely positive-energy. He's always friendly and his entire life is laser-focused around two things, honor and happiness. The worst he ever gets up to is being a bit troll-y to the Prince of Gallopolis, but that's moderate chiding to try and make the Prince uphold the honor he already swore to. That's what makes Sylvando great, he's effusive to the extreme, but never saccharine.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 17:06 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:My wife was like "Why is his assistant a gimp?" And I was like "Oh no that's not what you think. In dragon quest every tradesman is a gimp"
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 19:10 |
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I for one enjoyed my time with Sylvando and his bara boyfreind.
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 19:19 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Yeah, establishing that as a series tradition made it as minimally weird as possible that his assistant was a shirtless gimp-masked burly man. It was a good choice. Dave owns. Why is this a series tradition by the way. Is there something culturally about craftsmen that Akira Toriyama would say "All craftsman are burly as gently caress and wear leather masks btw"
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# ? Apr 29, 2020 19:26 |
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# ? May 14, 2024 03:47 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:My wife was like "Why is his assistant a gimp?" And I was like "Oh no that's not what you think. In dragon quest every tradesman is a gimp" You should've just gone to Any Town and showed them that they reuse NPCs a lot.
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