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Halloween Jack posted:If the Brawl for All taught us anything, it's that guys who had a reputation for being tough bar fighters and guys who'd been athletes when they were younger were not necessarily much good in a shootfight. Everyone thought Dr. Death was going to win it, then he tore his hamstring just circling around and got his clock cleaned. You never know what age and injury has done to people who haven't been competing for years. considering Bart Gunn won the actual Brawl 4 All and he had experience in Toughman Contests, for all we know the winner of the WCW Brawl 4 All would have been Hardbody Harrison with his patented Biscuit Cutter and Porkchop
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Halloween Jack posted:I forgot to add: It would be very bad optics for WCW to do a quasi-MMA tournament with Goldberg mysteriously absent. He was supposed to be part of the Toughman division WCW kept alluding to on air at the end of 1997!
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Before we poo poo on the brawl for all too much, remember that the entire reason it existed is because Vince Russo wanted to see Bradshaw get the poo poo kicked out of him. Truly, proof that good and evil reside in all of us.
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Alaois posted:considering Bart Gunn won the actual Brawl 4 All and he had experience in Toughman Contests, for all we know the winner of the WCW Brawl 4 All would have been Hardbody Harrison with his patented Biscuit Cutter and Porkchop
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Hellblazer187 posted:Before we poo poo on the brawl for all too much, remember that the entire reason it existed is because Vince Russo wanted to see Bradshaw get the poo poo kicked out of him. Truly, proof that good and evil reside in all of us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9JOEYxwwbk&t=116s
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Ref: "Are you Ok?" JBL: *stares into space with glazed expression* Ref: "Let's fight!"
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Hellblazer187 posted:Before we poo poo on the brawl for all too much, remember that the entire reason it existed is because Vince Russo wanted to see Bradshaw get the poo poo kicked out of him. Truly, proof that good and evil reside in all of us. ...really? I've always believed it was a way to bring Dr Death in and get him over as a legit tough guy
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Gaz-L posted:Ref: "Are you Ok?"
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Julio Cruz posted:...really? I've always believed it was a way to bring Dr Death in and get him over as a legit tough guy I don't remember where I heard this but apparently Bradshaw was talking poo poo about how he would win in a shoot against anyone and it pissed Russo off. I think they wanted Dr. Death to win, but the original idea was because Russo wanted to to see Bradshaw get beaten up and embarrassed.
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Hellblazer187 posted:I don't remember where I heard this but apparently Bradshaw was talking poo poo about how he would win in a shoot against anyone and it pissed Russo off. I think they wanted Dr. Death to win, but the original idea was because Russo wanted to to see Bradshaw get beaten up and embarrassed.
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When, how and why did new WWE workers start getting given really loving dumb names? I was just looking through the rosters and most of them are lame as hell, but it feels like it’s been this way for... at least a decade? They’re not even fun dumb, it’s like they’re caught in a middle ground where they’ve tried to give people ‘real’ names but still make them unique, so they’ve ended up with a roster full of Bobson Dugnetts. I hate them all. Also, how come some indie stars get to keep their names and others don’t? I get way control freak Vince would want to make sure WWE can keep the IP of their biggest stars, but they seem to have relented on that for a few people. Answers Me fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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Butterbean won a shoot with a kimura or americana. I do not know what my point is.
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Answers Me posted:When, how and why did new WWE workers start getting given really loving dumb names? Hulk Hogan
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Answers Me posted:When, how and why did new WWE workers start getting given really loving dumb names? I was just looking through the rosters and most of them are lame as hell, but it feels like it’s been this way for... at least a decade? Cam-ron Grimes Jor-dan Myles Bron-son Reed Joa-quin Wylde
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Answers Me posted:When, how and why did new WWE workers start getting given really loving dumb names? I was just looking through the rosters and most of them are lame as hell, but it feels like it’s been this way for... at least a decade? The "indie/international talent keeps their name" trend started with Samoa Joe and Shinsuke Nakamura I believe. Generico, Steen, Devitt, KENTA, and Kana were the biggest acquisitions around that time and that was about the breaking point where it stopped being worth it to rename them, so for about 2-3 years most guys kept their identities. I think in late 2018/early 2019 when they really ramped up signing EVERYBODY they could get their hands on, that's when the old practice came back and you started getting Cameron Grimeses and Dexter Lumises and poo poo like that. For every Keith Lee and Kushida now there's two or three Damian Priests or Bronson Reeds.
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I remember reading an NXT results post and thinking "what the gently caress is a Joaquin Wilde" and it was the first time I learned that they signed DZJ Something about the name generator just sucks all the personality out of these guys
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Benne posted:I remember reading an NXT results post and thinking "what the gently caress is a Joaquin Wilde" and it was the first time I learned that they signed DZJ That's almost certainly intentional. "Nobody gets more over than the product" etc etc.
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I always wondered how CM Punk got away with keeping his own name.
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Nystral posted:I always wondered how CM Punk got away with keeping his own name. They weren't really doing a lot of indie star signings at that point, most of the new talent was coming out of OVW or FCW I think. Occasionally you'd get guys like James Gibson or Brian Kendrick but I think Punk was the first real person to come in and make a splash as a guy with "indie cred" that everybody knew. He was the first and only one to manage it in that era, though MVP managed to keep getting booked as MVP, as long as he didn't use the full name.
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TriffTshngo posted:They weren't really doing a lot of indie star signings at that point, most of the new talent was coming out of OVW or FCW I think. Occasionally you'd get guys like James Gibson or Brian Kendrick but I think Punk was the first real person to come in and make a splash as a guy with "indie cred" that everybody knew. He was the first and only one to manage it in that era, though MVP managed to keep getting booked as MVP, as long as he didn't use the full name. I think Heyman also went to bat for Punk keeping his identity.
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TriffTshngo posted:They weren't really doing a lot of indie star signings at that point, most of the new talent was coming out of OVW or FCW I think. Occasionally you'd get guys like James Gibson or Brian Kendrick but I think Punk was the first real person to come in and make a splash as a guy with "indie cred" that everybody knew. He was the first and only one to manage it in that era, though MVP managed to keep getting booked as MVP, as long as he didn't use the full name. MVP owned the rights to MVP since he created it and pitched it to WWE prior to signing.
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It always seemed like such a waste to me when WWE changed the names of established wrestlers. Because half the reason of bringing them in was to capitalize on their already established fanbase, and hopefully bring them to WWE. So by changing their names, (especially to the stupid names that they give "newcomers"), it seems like they killed most of the momentum getting signed by the WWE is supposed to add to ones career. I suppose if your fanbase is savvy enough to the industry, they know you and a name change isn't going to make that much of a difference. But isn't part of WWE's stated business model bringing in new casual fans? These people wouldn't know the difference between the guy they enjoyed watching in their local bingo hall that time and Bazooka Kaboom the new NXT firebrand.
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They’re less than a year out from introducing Sleve McDichael.
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I want my Danhausen shirt, but my PWT order has been processing since the ninth Is that normal?
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Gambit from the X-Men posted:I want my Danhausen shirt, but my PWT order has been processing since the ninth Just a shot in the dark, but have you considered that there is a global pandemic currently going on?
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Contact them here (as in click here) and say that you would bashfully like to inquire about the status of your t-shirt order, but don't want people to get the wrong idea, such as that you are a heartless malcontent. tell them that you understand and even expect an order delay, but your neuroses require that you check in on things regardless, so that they might reassure you that things are as "normal" as they can be at the moment and nothing about your order was lost. you've been passed over a lot in your life and it's left you with this kind of scar that's often harmless but is working against you a little bit right now. another option would be to send an email to shipping[at]prowrestlingtees.com
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BrigadierSensible posted:It always seemed like such a waste to me when WWE changed the names of established wrestlers. I always assumed that, in typical scorched earth fashion, they did it so they would own the name/gimmick so the worker couldn't profit off it in the indies when they're released. I know that's not a new practice, but still...
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Also, if you manage to get over using your indie name instead of one given to you by WWE, that's a clear sign of disrespect and you obviously don't understand the business.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Also, if you manage to get over [...] instead of [...] WWE, that's a clear sign of disrespect and you obviously don't understand the business.
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bartok posted:Just a shot in the dark, but have you considered that there is a global pandemic currently going on? That is what I had thought, but I wanted to ask the howling void Since I think of processing as the payment going through and imagine a subsequent step called "hold up"
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Answers Me posted:When, how and why did new WWE workers start getting given really loving dumb names? I was just looking through the rosters and most of them are lame as hell, but it feels like it’s been this way for... at least a decade? It's probably been a problem forever, but I feel like the weird generic names started being A Thing back in the first season of NXT. I seem to recall them announcing the original roster for NXT and everyone making jokes about names like Heath Slater and Wade Barrett.
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Schlitzkrieg Bop posted:It's probably been a problem forever, but I feel like the weird generic names started being A Thing back in the first season of NXT. I seem to recall them announcing the original roster for NXT and everyone making jokes about names like Heath Slater and Wade Barrett. Didn't HUSKY HARRIS pause for a second during his confessional like it was the first time he'd heard his name?
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Who are some of the others that came in with their Indie/tna/roh/whatever names? Was he ever Finn Balor before, or always King Devitt or whatever. Only one I can think of off the top of my head AJ Styles... and Ricochet 
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Schlitzkrieg Bop posted:It's probably been a problem forever, but I feel like the weird generic names started being A Thing back in the first season of NXT. I seem to recall them announcing the original roster for NXT and everyone making jokes about names like Heath Slater and Wade Barrett. I feel like WWECW had bad names before NXT, such as BRADEN WALKER. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOt6kIMCRJc
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I feel like WWECW had bad names before NXT, such as BRADEN WALKER. Even before that, I think. Remember Gunner Scott on Smackdown?
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I mean, you can go back a lot further than that. Sid Vicious became Sid Justice. Unabomb became Isaac Yankem, DDS.
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What's weird about the first couple of seasons of NXT is that in many cases they went from Indie Name ---> FCW Name --> NXT name PJ Black became Justin Angel became Justin Gabriel Stu Sanders became Lawrence Knight became Wade Barrett Tyrone Evans became Tyrone Jones became Tyson Tarver became Michael Tarver Johnny Emminger became Johnny Prime became Lucky Cannon Low Ki became Kawal became Kaval I know most of them didn't have big indie careers before going to developmental but it just seemed like a multi-level power-play to make them change their names when they sign, then change it again as soon as they get promoted. The only other Punk-era wrestlers that got to basically keep their names when they came into WWE that I can think of were Sheamus and Kofi Kingston. The real prequel to all of the Developmental Names was the period in the late 1980s/early 1990s where they'd take established wrestlers and give them a goofy rear end gimmick that would essentially replace their names. Sometimes they'd still acknowledge (sometimes) that it's THE DRAGON ricky steamboat or EL MATADOR tito santana or THE MODEL rick martel but just as often "Mister Perfect" or "The Repo Man" or "I.R.S." or ""Skinner" or "Texas Tornado" or "Red Rooster" would effectively replace the name they used elsewhere. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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Every era had bad names, some worked and some didn't.
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BT Sport’s WWE Twitter account is running a World Cup for best WWE theme. Group stage voting is just going up. Some real tough choices in there. Look at Group D:  
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