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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

He talked about his new life as a furry, Bernie Panthers

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dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


felix's quarantine is upping his game, hell yeah

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

GANDHITRON posted:

No wonder why everyone hates him now

Virgil is the t-man of chapo, because he’s the worst mic and I have to look at replies to see what he’s crying about now, because I have him on block

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.
It really does feel good to let all of this election poo poo go. There is absolutely nothing I or any of us can do to beat back the tide of boomers who insisted on only giving us a choice between two rapist ghouls. I've :sever:ed with the people in my life who contributed to this and I've taken the grillpill.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

T-man posted:

Matt is the T-man of chapo trap house

you know how ironic bigotry can easily turn into actual bigotry
well ironic narcissism is the same

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
Bernie panders

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

you know the chapos are all soft pampered boys when their idea of slumming it is the guy with years long employment at bestbuy with lovely furniture in his lousy apartment

after what i've been through these past weeks the hot couch life seems like a soft pillowed dream

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


hot couch life is the millennial proletarian dream

fr0id
Jul 27, 2016

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
the call of Cthulhu system is poo poo garbage from the 1980s and Matt, as always, quickly figured out that making an interesting and “real” character actually leads to boring gameplay. He figured out what sucks about old school RPGs very quickly (you get limited points for your character and it’s always better to optimize them for combat than anything else because all interesting adventures have combat). they are playing 30-40 year old game design rules when they could be playing poo poo actually designed to make fun stories and gameplay. YES I am mad about RPGs and NO I won’t be quiet. have them play trail of Cthulhu or something.

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

if i don't die of coronavirus working for bezos i'd like to move somewhere with less daylight shootings and no junkies slamming doors all night because they're jonesing

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Percelus posted:

if i don't die of coronavirus working for bezos i'd like to move somewhere with less daylight shootings and no junkies slamming doors all night because they're jonesing

Your boss (call him Jeff, please) is working on housing options for people like you

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Percelus posted:

you know the chapos are all soft pampered boys when their idea of slumming it is the guy with years long employment at bestbuy with lovely furniture in his lousy apartment

after what i've been through these past weeks the hot couch life seems like a soft pillowed dream

What an absolutely bizarre take

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Crane Fist posted:

What an absolutely bizarre take

this

to be in the left and to begrudge people on our side is literally the peak liberal/conservative galaxy brain take of "communists are just envious of success", like, what the gently caress, there are actual real complete useless rich fucks whose idea of hard times is at least 100x times better than the vast majority of people in the left that can be considered "successful" in material terms, jfc

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

I love to pamper the boys, and Amber. :shrug:

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
as someone from indiana, i...

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

dead gay comedy forums posted:

this

to be in the left and to begrudge people on our side is literally the peak liberal/conservative galaxy brain take of "communists are just envious of success", like, what the gently caress, there are actual real complete useless rich fucks whose idea of hard times is at least 100x times better than the vast majority of people in the left that can be considered "successful" in material terms, jfc

i don't begrudge them. i'm just pointing out they are soft boys when it comes to experiencing the underside of american capitalism. no one should willingly subject themselves to true destitution in this evil empire

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Everyone who doesn't like my favorite podcast has bad mental illnesses. All of the people who do like my favorite podcast have good mental illnesses, which are the same mental illnesses that I have.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Oops, wrong thread!

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

i want us all to be soft pampered boys for the record but for many that is a far away dream especially with coronavirus and the expected socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor response

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

fr0id posted:

the call of Cthulhu system is poo poo garbage from the 1980s and Matt, as always, quickly figured out that making an interesting and “real” character actually leads to boring gameplay. He figured out what sucks about old school RPGs very quickly (you get limited points for your character and it’s always better to optimize them for combat than anything else because all interesting adventures have combat). they are playing 30-40 year old game design rules when they could be playing poo poo actually designed to make fun stories and gameplay. YES I am mad about RPGs and NO I won’t be quiet. have them play trail of Cthulhu or something.

How do modern rpgs resolve this?

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

fr0id posted:

the call of Cthulhu system is poo poo garbage from the 1980s and Matt, as always, quickly figured out that making an interesting and “real” character actually leads to boring gameplay. He figured out what sucks about old school RPGs very quickly (you get limited points for your character and it’s always better to optimize them for combat than anything else because all interesting adventures have combat). they are playing 30-40 year old game design rules when they could be playing poo poo actually designed to make fun stories and gameplay. YES I am mad about RPGs and NO I won’t be quiet. have them play trail of Cthulhu or something.

they should really be playing Delta Green imho

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

Mantis42 posted:

How do modern rpgs resolve this?

if you don't have trap choices in character creation you cant make a character as hilariously useless as dr farnsworth was

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

they should really be playing Delta Green imho

i saw they kickstartered a new edition, how did that turn out?

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Mantis42 posted:

How do modern rpgs resolve this?

generally by making it easier to have a thing you are good at that is applicable both to in-fighting and out-of-fighting abilities

in some extreme cases, like Lancer, a giant robots RPG, giant robot fights and out-of-giant-robot-interactions use two completely distinct sets of stats

in some less extreme cases, like the FFG Star Wars RPG, and to a lesser extent 5th edition D+D, there's always a way to use your best stats in combat, even if they're not the traditional combat stats. give anyone a choice between yelling "your whole style is chump" at an enemy for 1d4 damage if they fail a wisdom saving throw, and just putting an arrow into their head for 1d8+4 and they pick option 2, but option 1's existence does a lot to keep the bard's player from completely tuning out once things get fighty

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


the correct rpg for our time remains Apocalypse World

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

seriously though things are real hosed, only getting worse and with no end in sight. when people yearn for the days when they could get by paycheck to paycheck at their deadend job you know capitalism is reaching it's breaking point. people are dying in the thousands daily and when food banks and homeless shelters are no longer functioning expect people to start really getting nutty with it

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Percelus posted:

seriously though things are real hosed, only getting worse and with no end in sight. when people yearn for the days when they could get by paycheck to paycheck at their deadend job you know capitalism is reaching it's breaking point. people are dying in the thousands daily and when food banks and homeless shelters are no longer functioning expect people to start really getting nutty with it

it makes the whole tabletop rpg renaissance a lot funnier, tbh

say what you like about getting together to play pretend with your friends: it's a lot loving cheaper than anything else

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

I've been running ffg star wars over discord and its actually a really good fit for online play

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
Tabletop games are the best way to let out things you want to do in the game

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

it makes the whole tabletop rpg renaissance a lot funnier, tbh

say what you like about getting together to play pretend with your friends: it's a lot loving cheaper than anything else

*when you steal the rules PDFs and print them at work

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

it makes the whole tabletop rpg renaissance a lot funnier, tbh

say what you like about getting together to play pretend with your friends: it's a lot loving cheaper than anything else

There is nothing cheap about tabletop gaming and even if you torrent the $150 books or whatever its still a huge pain because you then have to print like 200 pages of poo poo at a minimum versus just torrenting PC games or whatever

Also you can't actually get together with your friends right now

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

Wolfsheim posted:

There is nothing cheap about tabletop gaming and even if you torrent the $150 books or whatever its still a huge pain because you then have to print like 200 pages of poo poo at a minimum versus just torrenting PC games or whatever

Also you can't actually get together with your friends right now

its literally never been easier to play them online! and in a lot of cases, playing over discord and roll20 or w/e is actually way less of a hassle than playing in person, exactly because everyone can just be sent PDFs

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

the chapo guys have never been actually starving afaik but they've never presented themselves as truly desperate either

what they have felt is the shame and inadequacy of doing the stuff they were told would get them ahead and ending up regressing instead - they haven't been at risk of dying from external circumstances, but tons of guys in that situation kill themselves and calling it soft is pretty hosed up

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

Algund Eenboom posted:

Everyone who doesn't like my favorite podcast has bad mental illnesses. All of the people who do like my favorite podcast have good mental illnesses, which are the same mental illnesses that I have.

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

V. Illych L. posted:

the chapo guys have never been actually starving afaik but they've never presented themselves as truly desperate either

what they have felt is the shame and inadequacy of doing the stuff they were told would get them ahead and ending up regressing instead - they haven't been at risk of dying from external circumstances, but tons of guys in that situation kill themselves and calling it soft is pretty hosed up

the 'soft' take is worth a lmao but this is the truly bizarre take

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

V. Illych L. posted:

the chapo guys have never been actually starving afaik but they've never presented themselves as truly desperate either

what they have felt is the shame and inadequacy of doing the stuff they were told would get them ahead and ending up regressing instead - they haven't been at risk of dying from external circumstances, but tons of guys in that situation kill themselves and calling it soft is pretty hosed up

ah the timeless "if you're not a desperate starving person in the global south you have nothing to feel down or critical about"

i actually think it's good when people who come from well-off upbringings advocate things that would cost them but for the greater good.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

V. Illych L. posted:

the chapo guys have never been actually starving afaik but they've never presented themselves as truly desperate either

what they have felt is the shame and inadequacy of doing the stuff they were told would get them ahead and ending up regressing instead - they haven't been at risk of dying from external circumstances, but tons of guys in that situation kill themselves and calling it soft is pretty hosed up

I agree actually. Every human judges terror and horror and badness by their own scale formed through their lives. I've had a pretty lovely life myself, and I think it's usually an emotional response to erase other's suffering that isn't healthy nor helpful. I'm trying to do better on this, anyway.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

fr0id posted:

the call of Cthulhu system is poo poo garbage from the 1980s and Matt, as always, quickly figured out that making an interesting and “real” character actually leads to boring gameplay. He figured out what sucks about old school RPGs very quickly (you get limited points for your character and it’s always better to optimize them for combat than anything else because all interesting adventures have combat). they are playing 30-40 year old game design rules when they could be playing poo poo actually designed to make fun stories and gameplay. YES I am mad about RPGs and NO I won’t be quiet. have them play trail of Cthulhu or something.

Excuse me? Min-Maxing CoC is all about that Spot Hidden and Library Use.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Who the gently caress sees a skill called "library use" and goes I will put points in that. I want to be good at reading books and never going outside. I wish to roleplay as a big ol' nerd. My character is already wearing a fedora and I'm going to max out Forbidden Lore: Anime

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thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
It's probably the second most used skill in the game, but arguably the most important. Spot hidden probably gets more use but so many adventure outcomes relies almost entirely on finding the vital clue with library use. Going to the library used to be a good way for the GM to drop hints and exposition before the "idea check" became popular as well.

In general CoC is not a well designed mystery game, as progress requires you to succeed with these clue-finding rolls. However, in all but the more pulpy scenarios you can avoid fights if you get the right clues.

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