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Pistol_Pete posted:Til that Luxembourg has it's own language. I'd always assumed they just spoke German or Flemish or whatever. Unlike the Dutch, the Luxembourgers are mostly at ease with the fact that their language is very similar to German, and embrace German as a useful second language, followed by French and then English at school. Flemish is a common misconception, as Luxembourg doesn't actually border any Flemish or Dutch speaking regions, and the languages aren't quite mutually intelligible, so a Luxembourger would normally speak English with a Dutch speaker. OwlFancier posted:The majority of the european continent speaks some mutant variant of italian or german or both. Except for a few places and people that have their own entirely different language group. But it's mostly either german noises and/or roman noises with a silly accent. English more silly than most. Yeah this forms the basis of my in-progress European language learning effortpost, but in short it's much less impressive that I speak(ish) 6 languages when you consider it's actually only 2.5 (Germanic, Romance and English).
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It's weird how if not for how ubiquitous it is, english would just be insane island german. I like some things about it, like the lack of gendered words that got dropped at some point in the transition to middle english (I think) but the spelling is horrific and it can't stick to a bloody language group. My favourite european word, on that note, is still tankodesantniki. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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Yeah when I hear people speaking italian or german I feel like I can pick up words here and there despite never having studied them. When I hear people speaking polish its 0% understanding.
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Boots Online just cancelled my prescription delivery after being 2 weeks late with it, so now my meds run out in 4 days yay!
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DesperateDan posted:I have enough flour for a dozen good loaves but only about 3 packs of easy yeast left, haven't seen any in months and I'm not about to go pissing about with making raisin yeast juice yet I would kill everyone in this thread for just one pack of that easy yeast. poo poo's like gold dust. Morrisons had flour yesterday, but they had literally stuck it in the thick paper bags they put pasties and stuff in and put a label on it, so I'm guessing they just used the flour they get in bulk for their bakers and decided to sell it in lieu of having any of their regular stock.
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OwlFancier posted:My favourite european word, on that note, is still tankodesantniki. 
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I would kill everyone in this thread for just one pack of that easy yeast. poo poo's like gold dust. Morrisons had flour yesterday, but they had literally stuck it in the thick paper bags they put pasties and stuff in and put a label on it, so I'm guessing they just used the flour they get in bulk for their bakers and decided to sell it in lieu of having any of their regular stock. This leads into my theory/random guessing about the flour shortage. With bakers and restaurants who would normally use flour closed down, there is possibly a lot of flour in huge sacks going unused. As people are at home and at least thinking they will get into baking, all of the small bags have disappeared, and we have a wait while the flour is repackaged.
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Red Oktober posted:This leads into my theory/random guessing about the flour shortage. With bakers and restaurants who would normally use flour closed down, there is possibly a lot of flour in huge sacks going unused. As people are at home and at least thinking they will get into baking, all of the small bags have disappeared, and we have a wait while the flour is repackaged. ISTR a Twitter thread with someone in the know saying exactly that.
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Same as eggs the bottleneck is the containers and capability to put it into them not any actual lack of flour.
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Also based on this map, you can see who got tea over land from traders in China, and who got it by sea from the Southern ports. And who was just boiling random plants. 
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^^^ Wow the North African word for tea is a mouthful  Isomermaid posted:ISTR a Twitter thread with someone in the know saying exactly that. At the rate people (including me) seem to be baking, they should just sell the huge sacks in the supermarkets Bobstar fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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I enjoy cooking, the only issue I have is that with a massive hernia, standing in the kitchen doing cooking makes my back really hurt after a while, that spoils it a bit. I also have a garlic press and find it very easy to clean. I have also resigned from the Labour Party and joined the Co-operative Party and signed up with my local Co-op, so while not completely abandoning Labour, I felt it was time to move on from the current PLP bullshit. This has been an update from forum user Dead Goon.
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If your supermarket is still selling its in house baked bread they have pallets and pallets of giant flour sacks in the warehouse.
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https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1252521094529064960OwlFancier posted:If your supermarket is still selling its in house baked bread they have pallets and pallets of giant flour sacks in the warehouse. So you're saying seize the means of production?
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I have two almost full bags of flour in the cupboard, the newest has a best before date of January 2019. Accepting £50 for each.
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Bobstar posted:Yep, the PM's text, and the blue jumper lady's speaking is Luxembourgish, my awesome and totally useless second language. Your description is pretty much bang on. Bobstar posted:Yeah this forms the basis of my in-progress European language learning effortpost, but in short it's much less impressive that I speak(ish) 6 languages when you consider it's actually only 2.5 (Germanic, Romance and English). e: Jippa posted:Yeah when I hear people speaking italian or german I feel like I can pick up words here and there despite never having studied them. When I hear people speaking polish its 0% understanding. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:Maybe, though I'd also say a key element is that they almost always hinge on there being a plan, it might be an evil plan, but it's all planned out, someone's in control, someone's in a big evil office somewhere pulling all the levers to make the bad things happen, rather than them being emergent behaviour from a bunch of other stuff. In my experience, it's generally this. Particularly when it is something that comes out of tragedy. As humans we are prepared to believe any narrative, even an illogical or hurtful one over the idea "bad stuff happens. No moral. " When my daughter died my first thought wasnt that it had happened due to bad luck or negligence by the doctors. It had happened because I hadn't read my parenting book cover to cover. Because doing that would have somehow stopped her heart from failing. I think that's why individuals fall into conspiracy theories. The people who push those theories (and they add the caveat that the evil Illuminati types who are in control are all powerful. But they have to willingly make you do these things and have to put clues out there. Like it's a game with rules.) Do so to seek fame and fortune but they are exploiting the grief of others to do so. With Deus Ex, when it came out the mainstream media's view of conspiracy theories were that they were so whacky and harmless fun so let's indulge them. As opposed to seeing that they were symptoms of a much bigger problem. In media depictions they run into the problem that these conspiracies are all powerful and can do and kill whom they like and can't be stopped, except by the enlightened heroes. Don't get me wrong, I used to watch them all the time. But in recent years Designated Survivor and (especially) Mr. Robot ran into this major problem around 2016 where their plots about an evil cabal of super competent leaders ran afoul of the real world which had Trump and Brexit unfolding.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/coronavirus-matt-hancock-ventilators-ppe-nhs-government-tom-moore-a9468826.html lmao quote:In any case, the government can’t be doing anything wrong, because they’re “being led by the science”. quote:Similarly, no one seems to ask why didn’t we take part in the EU scheme to distribute ventilators. The government said it’s because we “didn’t get the email” and that was accepted.
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Jippa posted:I know "kurwa". I think you could hold a pretty long phone conversation in Polish with only "kurwa", "tak", "no tak" and "nie teraz".
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Imagine getting flour and using it to bake bread. I've gone fully Marie Antoinette and any flour I get is becoming cakes
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endlessmonotony posted:So has the Brexit situation gone from "they will buy our cakes" to "there will be adequate food" to "if you find food for sale you're still legally allowed to buy it"? Crankit posted:Imagine getting flour and using it to bake bread.
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The Question IRL posted:In media depictions they run into the problem that these conspiracies are all powerful and can do and kill whom they like and can't be stopped, except by the enlightened heroes. Yeah I enjoy watching these shows (Designated Survivor was fun, or 24 - oh look Rocket Romano from ER is a sneaky conspiracy dude!) because they're a fun alternative universe where there are strong good guys, and shadowy bad guys who, if only they could be exposed, would be seen by the public as very very bad. Reading the Shock Doctrine and the like is an antidote to that - there is a "conspiracy" to do lots of terrible things, but it's multifaceted, chaotic, and they're not really bothering to keep it a secret (at least not in the TV way) - and when you do "expose" them, people go "meh, that's normal" or "what are you, some kind of communist?"
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Northern European language chat: I lived in Germany for a while in the 70s so I could muddle my way round in German. Then I did Norwegian evening classes for 3 years so every time I went to try and speak German, Norwegian came out. I also did French at school for O-level so could muddle my way through French to some extent. Now, every time I try to speak French, Arabic comes out (because I lived in the Middle East for several years I can muddle my way round in Arabic). I found a few things: if I am in the Netherlands /Belgium/Lux, I can sort of muddle my way through Dutch or Flemish or Luxembourgish newspapers if they are at roughly equivalent to Uk Red Tops language level by thinking of the German word and 'saying' it in my head with Norwegian pronunciation. Norwegian gives me a bit of a headstart on Swedish. About 25 years ago I went to Brussels with a friend and we had a day apart to ourselves and I determined not to speak any English at all that day. I found the Flemish came more naturally to me than the French. But my accent was terrible. However, I got by and by the afternoon, shopkeepers were saying Varsågod to me - I concluded that as Sweden had just joined the EU and as I look somewhat scandanavian they had decided I was Swedish and that was probably their one Swedish word. I went to Norway a few times. The first time, every time I tried to speak Norwegian, I would be answered in English. The second time I went, they would look at me quizzically and say 'Er du dansk?' (Are you Danish), which my Norwegian friend said 'Shows how poo poo your accent is' but for me was wonderful that they didn't immediately guess I was English. When I did a tour 5 years ago from Paris to Luxembourg to Brussels to Amsterdam, in Paris I couldn't stop speaking Arabic every time I tried French. By the time I got to Brussels my French had improved dramatically having de-rusted all the cogs in my head. Then I got to Amsterdam and for the life of me couldn't stop speaking French every time I tried some extremely rusty Dutch. So, tl:dr, my conclusion is: learn some German, some French and one Scandanavian language and with your English, you're covered to muddle your way linguistically round a large part of Northern Europe.
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Crankit posted:Imagine getting flour and using it to bake bread. I've gone fully Marie Antoinette and any flour I get is becoming cakes 
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I think if a norwegian accuses you of being danish that's about as harsh a criticism you can get lanugage wise
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I went to Norway a few times. The first time, every time I tried to speak Norwegian, I would be answered in English. The second time I went, they would look at me quizzically and say 'Er du dansk?' (Are you Danish), which my Norwegian friend said 'Shows how poo poo your accent is' but for me was wonderful that they didn't immediately guess I was English.
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big scary monsters posted:I think you could hold a pretty long phone conversation in Polish with only "kurwa", "tak", "no tak" and "nie teraz". A friend of mine who spoke no Arabic was parked with her husband's female relatives who spoke no English for a day. She got through 8 hours by judging from the tone of the conversation whether she should say 'hamdulilah' or 'inshallah'. By the end of the day, they loved her to pieces and thought she spoke wonderful arabic though she was pretty clueless as to what they had been saying all day. (You can say 'hamdulilah' for just about everything using different tones. Win the new car in the supermarket raffle? Hamdulilah in a happy voice. Lose your home and all your belongings in a building collapse? Hamdulilah in a sad voice). Said friend also tried her Arabic out in a supermarket. She wanted 1kg of olives. All she could remember was that it was a word beginning with Z. So she asked for a kilo of Zebb instead of zeitoon. She was standing by the olives so the shopkeeper with his eyes goggling out of his head and his face going purple gave her the olives. Half an hour later, he turned up on her doorstep and said "Excuse me, I must speak with your husband". I leave it as an exercise for the reader to guess what she had in fact asked for! (Ed: upon request for explanation, zebb = penis) Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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big scary monsters posted:This is extremely relatable to me - my happiest moment living in the Netherlands was when someone mistook me for a Belgian.  The joys of having a Luxembourgish accent when speaking non-English languages. French guy: "Are you Belgian?" Dutch guy: [literally pointing and laughing] "Haha you sound like a German!" I wouldn't be surprised if I sound French when I speak Spanish. E: just remembered the time I had a whole conversation with a Dutch car park attendant, entirely in Dutch, she want away to check something, came back and resumed the conversation in German, presumably based off an unconscious mental pigeonholing of my accent. Bobstar fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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Amazon finally had clippers that could go past a 4 in stock for cheap although it's not the guards that are adjustable. Anyway gonna give my head a 3 all over tomorrow for the first time and see how it is
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Red Oktober posted:This leads into my theory/random guessing about the flour shortage. With bakers and restaurants who would normally use flour closed down, there is possibly a lot of flour in huge sacks going unused. As people are at home and at least thinking they will get into baking, all of the small bags have disappeared, and we have a wait while the flour is repackaged. My boss ordered a 32kg sack of flour from some place online. It's around, as long as you want a lot of it.
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Do it while rear end blasting on your bidet for the maximum quarantine lush experience.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:A friend of mine who spoke no Arabic was parked with her husband's female relatives who spoke no English for a day. She got through 8 hours by judging from the tone of the conversation whether she should say 'hamdulilah' or 'inshallah'. By the end of the day, they loved her to pieces and thought she spoke wonderful arabic though she was pretty clueless as to what they had been saying all day. (You can say 'hamdulilah' for just about everything using different tones. Win the new car in the supermarket raffle? Hamdulilah in a happy voice. Lose your home and all your belongings in a building collapse? Hamdulilah in a sad voice). I'm pretty sure this is a universal communication technique.
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Aphex- posted:Anyone who hates spending too much time cooking should really invest in a slow cooker. They're cheap (i got mine for like £25) and you just chuck in all the ingredients in it in the morning and it's done by dinner time. Sometimes you should brown the meat before putting it in but apart from that, that's all there is to it. I've made some really tasty curries, goulash, pulled pork and loads more in it.
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Apropos of nothing except recent conversations, the fact that I just came across it, and possibly the thread title, I present for the thread's consideration, a new possibility for why you would go around calling people cucks. Specifically, you could be re-enacting the english civil war: http://wiki.bcw-project.org/royalist/horse-regiments/sir-horatio-cary
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Bardeh posted:https://twitter.com/openDemocracy/status/1252356116496871424 Jaeluni Asjil posted:I suppose technically they could go after you for breach of copyright though I include a reference, if you don't have permission, the owner can come after you and at the very least insist you include a reference, perhaps insist you remove it, or go after you for copyright breach. If you use a photo off the web on your blog, there's no fair use argument, you've literally reproduced it in full, and they can (& will) demand payment. Even if the photo in question is that famous one of Safiyah Khan (I think her name is?) standing up to the EDL & you're using it to encourage standing up to the EDL. So I've heard. Unrelated, imo cooking nice meals to enjoy with your loved ones is a really nice way to feel at least a bit normal, & I really want a haircut.
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Lol imagine being able to be in the same room as your loved ones. I haven't been in the same room as another human for 7 weeks
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endlessmonotony posted:Where are all the cool cyborgs? I mean, other than me, I guess. Heavy prosthetics exist. Even thought-controlled ones. But they're expensive still, so they're not deployed often. This is presumption, though, based on few few videos that randomly cropped up, Bloodly fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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