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Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

Mak0rz posted:

So at what point did hard drive noise transition from charming chirps to obnoxious grinding and clicking because that's all I remember

Wait long enough and every spinning rust drive will eventually do this :dadjoke:

Buttcoin purse posted:

I wasn't so much a fan of Borland's attempt:



Took me a while to realize that every Windows 3.11 button you encountered in 98 was basically redrawn from scratch, line by line, by whatever compiler or framework you used, instead of native.

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barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


This was an illuminating watch, I was only familiar with Soyo Oka! This is some well deserved recognition.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4H8UdwaVJU

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

barbecue at the folks posted:

This was an illuminating watch, I was only familiar with Soyo Oka! This is some well deserved recognition.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4H8UdwaVJU

Smh if you've never heard of Michiru Yamane before now

Mak0rz has a new favorite as of 05:02 on Mar 23, 2020

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxSCNhblC3g

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Glad to see that device getting a more forgiving look these days so Quarex seems like less of an idiot for wanting one.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

Dr. Quarex posted:

Glad to see that device getting a more forgiving look these days so Quarex seems like less of an idiot for wanting one.

ayy

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEwXZPzm3es

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

With it being a wet cold weekend, gave me a bit of time to work on some of the old stuff.

First off was a G3 PowerMac 350MHz B&W model




First off I replaced the PRAM battery. The old one wasn't leaking or looking nasty, but I reckon it was the original so to be safe it got replaced. And look at that foretelling of macOS 10.10 :tinfoil:


All set up with the Extended Keyboard II, the last mechanical keyboard that Apple made. Works perfectly with the G3 as it still had an ADB port on it.


Wiped the hard drive as it still had the previous owner's stuff on it. Macintosh Repository had a copy of the original MacOS 8.5.1 restore CD


Updated it to MacOS 8.6 so I could install iMovie 1.0 on it. It then took 5 hours to get the USB storage driver to install, which in the end a faulty copy of StuffIt was the issue.


Seems to run most games well, including early 68k games

Next up was the Atari 800XL. I got the S Drive Max in for it, which allows you to run both disk and tape based games (but not cartridge)


It connects to the SIO port on the 800XL for both communication and power


This is the interface on the 800XL. The S Drive ATR file runs the menu


The unit has a touch screen on it, so you can load up the ATR files there as well. Selecting one of the 4 virtual drives and rebooting the 800XL will load up that file.


It works perfectly and pretty quickly as well, as it has a disk loading accelerator built into the software for the unit.

More information about the SDrive-MAX can be found here: https://atari8bit.net/everything-sdrive-max/

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


You Am I posted:


Mac stuff


Nice! That keyboard is really nice to use from memory.

I'm having issues with a mates Mid 2011 Air if you can help. She can't update it at all always fails out. Tried safe mode install etc, but haven't booted it from a USB yet. Is this something you are familiar with by any chance? I've got logs etc

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Humphreys posted:

Nice! That keyboard is really nice to use from memory.

I'm having issues with a mates Mid 2011 Air if you can help. She can't update it at all always fails out. Tried safe mode install etc, but haven't booted it from a USB yet. Is this something you are familiar with by any chance? I've got logs etc

You might try asking about it in the tech support forum - https://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=170

I was about to start asking you questions to start troubleshooting but this probably isn't the thread for it.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Humphreys posted:

Nice! That keyboard is really nice to use from memory.

I'm having issues with a mates Mid 2011 Air if you can help. She can't update it at all always fails out. Tried safe mode install etc, but haven't booted it from a USB yet. Is this something you are familiar with by any chance? I've got logs etc
Basic first steps like is there enough free hard drive space.

From my knowledge that model of MB Air can only run up to OSX 10.13, so if you are trying to install anything newer it won't happen. Since Apple only supports the latest version (10.15) and the version before it (10.14) there could be software that refuses to install due to the version of OSX on it

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


CaptainSarcastic posted:

You might try asking about it in the tech support forum - https://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=170

I was about to start asking you questions to start troubleshooting but this probably isn't the thread for it.

Thanks for that. Got a thread started now. If al lelse fails, this Macbook Air belongs here as a tech relic.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


New Techmoan. Of course theres some hiphop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYBv6KXSfGI

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Love the MIDI screaming.

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
And a new Tech Tangents (nee Akbkuku) with a charming little mechanical pong-like that seems very on-brand for the thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSvZbcwqlTw

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Have you posted Tech Tangent before?

Now I have another channnel to binge on! thanks!

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Modern Classic has a video on another cool handheld mechanical game like that (edit: also made by TOMY):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bvmIQ-pBVQ

If you're looking for another good channel to watch :)

wa27 has a new favorite as of 16:12 on Apr 19, 2020

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".

wa27 posted:

Modern Classic has a video on another cool handheld mechanical game like that (edit: also made by TOMY):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bvmIQ-pBVQ

If you're looking for another good channel to watch :)

Wow, I can’t watch the video right now but my brother used to play the crap out of that baseball game and it had the most distinctive sound. I can hear it now.

These vids are gold, thx!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


wa27 posted:

Modern Classic has a video on another cool handheld mechanical game like that (edit: also made by TOMY):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bvmIQ-pBVQ

If you're looking for another good channel to watch :)

Thankyou!

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvXXkB2jic0

Never heard of a great deal of this stuff, before.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Does anyone remember Techmoan/etc putting up a video on something that included an explanation of a company getting its start by one guy renting out speakers from his radio receiver? Like, very early days of radio in the UK (I think), guy had a radio and he would rent out speakers that he just connected up with a wire to his receiver and he eventually made a business out of it.

I vaguely remember watching something that included this but for the life of me, I don't remember what video it was.

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019
I can't find the video that has it, but I think you're thinking of Rediffusion.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

ishikabibble posted:

Does anyone remember Techmoan/etc putting up a video on something that included an explanation of a company getting its start by one guy renting out speakers from his radio receiver? Like, very early days of radio in the UK (I think), guy had a radio and he would rent out speakers that he just connected up with a wire to his receiver and he eventually made a business out of it.

I vaguely remember watching something that included this but for the life of me, I don't remember what video it was.

I remember that, what an interesting story.

He talks about it in the epilogue of this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_5DPvPiUMY&t=964s
http://www.rediffusion.info/1928-1978/

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



The name was then bought by Victor Lewis Smith for his TV production company. His work was comparable to Chris Morris’ and the two had a long running feud. TV Offal is on YouTube and it’s still mostly a good watch, he uses a lot of old TV logos and footage and outsourced all the jingles to that American house that did them for radio/TV all the time, so it’s fun to hear familiar sounds introducing his insanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6guw9sjg_E

EL BROMANCE has a new favorite as of 15:27 on Apr 21, 2020

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

That story reminded me of something I read in the 1897 Sears catalogue reprint I bought after getting too into Red Dead Redemption 2.

This is in the telegraphy section and makes me wonder how popular private lines really were.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

open24hours posted:

That story reminded me of something I read in the 1897 Sears catalogue reprint I bought after getting too into Red Dead Redemption 2.

This is in the telegraphy section and makes me wonder how popular private lines really were.


Wait until you realize that houses would share phone lines well into the 1970's. They were referred to as party lines, and you'd have several houses sharing a number. It's why if you watch older movies, you'll have some old biddy in a bonnet eavesdropping on one of the neighbor's conversations.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Watching this youtube DJ who uses old japanese ad clips for his videos....so this betamax was like 3000$ in 80's dollars

but peep that remote

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Iron Crowned posted:

Wait until you realize that houses would share phone lines well into the 1970's. They were referred to as party lines, and you'd have several houses sharing a number. It's why if you watch older movies, you'll have some old biddy in a bonnet eavesdropping on one of the neighbor's conversations.

When my dad was a kid, his phone "number" was two shorts and a long with the crank you use to ring every other house on the party line.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

LifeSunDeath posted:

Watching this youtube DJ who uses old japanese ad clips for his videos....so this betamax was like 3000$ in 80's dollars

but peep that remote


incredible

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Fuckin jog wheels.

More to the point, fuckin cargo cult remotes from the post-tape era that pointlessly used controls that LOOKED like jog wheels but were just weird finicky momentary buttons but that’s what :airquote: high end gear had so

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I never even thought about then being jog wheels. I just looked at them being giant dpads.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
In the late 90's I had a Sony Ericson cell phone with a jog wheel on the side. It was very useful.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

TotalLossBrain posted:

In the late 90's I had a Sony Ericson cell phone with a jog wheel on the side. It was very useful.

I may have had the same one. You could hold it one way or the other to scroll, then press in to click and select. It was actually a really terrific interface for the time.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Iron Crowned posted:

Wait until you realize that houses would share phone lines well into the 1970's. They were referred to as party lines, and you'd have several houses sharing a number. It's why if you watch older movies, you'll have some old biddy in a bonnet eavesdropping on one of the neighbor's conversations.

The rural area my childhood home is in has always been behind the times when it comes to phone service. It was party line and pulse dialing only until around 1994. Private line service was simply not available. We had our own number, but inbound calls rang with a different ring for each house. My grandparents shared the line with 2 neighbors. My parents didn't get a phone until 1994/1995 when GTE converted all lines on the road to private line service. I vaguely remember my grandparents having trouble once as they tried to get a new fangled cordless phone, and it wouldn't ring correctly... They couldn't tell their ring from the neighbors ring.

Also, 5 digit dialing continued to work until sometime in the late 2000s if you were dialing a local number.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Whoever made the cordless phone had probably never even heard of having different rings for different numbers and the phone just checked for the ringer voltage coming through and then did its own thing.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Cojawfee posted:

Whoever made the cordless phone had probably never even heard of having different rings for different numbers and the phone just checked for the ringer voltage coming through and then did its own thing.

That was likely the case.

The wired phones they had where some GE branded rotary. I remember this because my aunt who lived across the street from my grandparents, kept using this phone all the way until 2001, until the day pulse dialing stopped working. I remember this day fondly, as it was also the day 56k modem connections started working! (would only get 19.2k prior to this)

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

I may have had the same one. You could hold it one way or the other to scroll, then press in to click and select. It was actually a really terrific interface for the time.

Yeah, a rotary control for scrolling or volume (see OG iPod for example) is a wonderful thing. Jog wheels for controlling tapes and turntables though, that's a different beast. They're for moving at precisely controlled speeds backward or forward through audio or video, like for editing or DJ'ing.

VCRs in the late 90s (and DVD players too) decided that what they needed was a wheel-shaped control that you would rotate left for "rewind" and right for "fast forward", and they would spring back to center. But since there is only one speed in either direction, MAYBE two if it's a gimmicky model, it's entirely dumb and less ergonomic than just having a button for those functions — especially because the mechanism took a second or two to clunk into gear and get moving in the direction you selected. The whole "precisely scrub back and forth" concept was missing. But at least it looked like it COULD do that if you wanted to make like you were Mike Jittlov in your spare time

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

I have a nice Hitachi VCR that has a real jog wheel and when I first used it, I couldn't believe I was using a VCR that could go frame-by-frame forward and backwards. Like, all my previous VCRs couldn't even pause a frame on the screen and have it look good.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

i had a vcr where the remote had a jog wheel. i manually recorded every seinfeld without commercials in syndication (im insane) and it was very helpful. i still have the tapes!

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Depending on when you recorded them, they are worthless. Syndicated episodes of Seinfeld at one point were sped up and cut to fit in more commercials.

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