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Pablo Bluth posted:Daily chart update This looks weirdly optimistic and idgi, tbh.
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Guavanaut posted:The real problem with them is that they looked like bad boy revolvers and so scrotes would use them to mug people or rob newsagents, and that'd be better solved with some kind of DBS check on purchase to create a minor bar to entry rather than arbitrarily making some novelty airguns in the same category as surface to air missiles.. See now it's actually easier to get a licence for rockets and explosives in this country than it is to get a license for a Section 5 firearm (in that you can easily get a license to store and sell quite large explosive devices from your local authority as long as they're display fireworks, and even the most extravagantly bangy stuff can be licensed and bought if you're a quarry or something, but it's impossible to legally own one of those airguns), so I'd say a surface-to-air-missile is actually in a lesser category. Probably won't be browsing for MANPADS* on ebay any time soon, though. *Do your own jokes.
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ThomasPaine posted:This looks weirdly optimistic and idgi, tbh.
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1252931128375336960?s=19 Finally decorum has returned to the house of Parliament
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/LabourList/status/1252955842736869377?s=19 To be fair, even when supporting Labour, it's not like we've ever shied away from hating the bland centrist melt sections. Even before we knew the full documented extent of their sabotage.
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The article is rather more... nothing than it first appears.quote:The new Labour leadership has rejected the idea of introducing a universal basic income during the Covid-19 crisis, Keir Starmer’s spokesperson confirmed today. Basically the current system is bad, it should be easier, but nothing too bold. Wouldn't want to get people too enthusiastic. Can't even make bad suggestions with conviction, apparently.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I'm aware that I'm probably gonna get a chorus of "Well DUH" to the realisation I've just had, but the harping on about the exit strategy is appealing directly to his base, who care only about things going "back to normal" - Fubpees, melts who wank to the 2012 Olympics, big brains who believe a million dead Iraqis is a small price to pay for Sure Start, they all just want to go back to not even having to pretend to care about politics apart from putting the tick in the box once every few years without the effects of that tick being thrown in their face and making them feel bad. The fact that History is happening is antithetical to their core belief that History has Ended, and they don't know how to compute that
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Josef bugman posted:I suspect that a lot of it is "I don't want to win, I want to be right". But when I do it it's a virtue. See also the countless articles that pour out of the centrist nest titled "we lost the election, but we won the argument"
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:See also the countless articles that pour out of the centrist nest titled "we lost the election, but we won the argument" The Guardian was the worst for this. https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1205963738681090048
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/LabourList/status/1252955842736869377?s=19 Ahh, back to the good old days of 2010-2015 where any criticism of the Tories from the left was met with "but your beloved Labour..."
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ThomasPaine posted:This looks weirdly optimistic and idgi, tbh. It represents less than half the actual people dying so it's a worthless number. Hospital admissions, like testing, can be controlled to produce a desired outcome
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crispix posted:I'm sure it is all part of a fiendishly clever shtratedjeh What is with the Janet Street-Porterism that I keep seeing here?
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HJB posted:The Guardian was the worst for this. Yes i believe i did say "the centrist nest"
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Tarnop posted:It represents less than half the actual people dying so it's a worthless number. Hospital admissions, like testing, can be controlled to produce a desired outcome Yeah the UK official death curve at every stage has been matching italys despite always looking in reality like its going to be worse. So I think theyr just fiddling the numbers, as long as its only as bad as Italy they think they can handle that bad PR. I think in reality they can handle any amount of bad PR since there is no mechanism to stop them and none of our institutions actually work. At some point they may realise this and open the blood gates, I think some of them already have.
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I'm in a couple of Corbyn/Bernie fb meme groups and I'm getting frustrated at the complete lack of willingness to do any retrospective criticism among many supporters. I posited that maybe intervening personally to save Watson from being ousted was a bad move, cue a choir of responses going "well it would have been bad optics!" Lmao the labour left arent going to learn poo poo from all this
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/LabourList/status/1252955842736869377?s=19 Good to see the SNP reclaim their position as The Real Opposition (TM)
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Where did this theory that Starmer is 'forensic' come from? I'm bewildered. During the brexit withdrawal agreement stalemate Starmer took the lead on some stuff in the commons. So he was going through proposals and documents in this calm, measured, methodical lawyery way - highlighting things, explaining what they meant, asking for clarification and confirmation to be given later, that kind of thing People were absolutely wild for it, it was that sensible adult West Wing energy minus any dramatic flair. Smart guy in a suit making rational arguments and people were swooning because at the end of the day that's all they want, a process wonk. The Tories were stepping up to dunk on him and he was all polite and accepting of their criticisms etc, and let me tell you people loved the decorum too. That's when they started really talking about wanting him for leader
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Jedit posted:What is with the Janet Street-Porterism that I keep seeing here? He drops that word into every third or so sentence and to me it is emblematic of the days of New Labour's tedious controlled language and NLP and ridiculous practiced body language and electability and focus groups and giving long, vapid speeches that convey gently caress all of substance. It would take me a very long time to explain exactly how gutted I am that this is what people want to lead the Labour party after 5 years of hope but I can't bring myself to do that so if it's okay I'll continue to just make fun of Keir here and there
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I don't really think the watson thing would have made much difference either way. Also to be honest the whole "he should have done x/y" is a kind of pointless exercise IMO because so much of corbyn's approach to things was driven by his pretty heavy inflexibility re: what he believed in. If you wanted a different outcome you'd need a different person, or to somehow eliminate the entire element of personal leadership from politics. I am as scorched earth as ever re: anything that looks even vaguely like centrism but ultimately corbyn was the only thing on offer and combined with the way politics is structured across basically the entire democratic world, you weren't going to get a different outcome. So while I would definitely support anyone who suggested firing all counterrevolutonary elements into the sun, that doesn't really... mean much.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/french-study-suggests-smokers-at-lower-risk-of-getting-coronavirus French researchers are planning to test nicotine patches on coronavirus patients and frontline health workers after a study suggested smokers may be much less at risk of contracting the virus. The study at a major Paris hospital suggests a substance in tobacco – possibly nicotine – may be stopping patients who smoke from catching Covid-19. Clinical trials of nicotine patches are awaiting the approval of the country’s health authorities.
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I think that the next major vote for leader is going to come sooner than expected and probably return someone else. This is going to get old real fast and there is only so much blue tick jacking off and not enough getting done that will activate folks. I think it's also that Starmer is not really very good at "politics". He likes the long and boring work, which is good tbh, but is also just very lacklustre even to the blue tick brigade. It wouldn't surprise me if he stuck it out, but it also wouldn't surprise me if he collapsed like a damp cake within a year.
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Jippa posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/french-study-suggests-smokers-at-lower-risk-of-getting-coronavirus No virus has yet developed immunity to being drawn through burning leaves and then through cotton wool, going to the chemists right now for 20 Marlboro air filters.
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Josef bugman posted:I think that the next major vote for leader is going to come sooner than expected and probably return someone else. I wonder about this but the main issue I think is finding someone to replace him, it would need to be someone who can rile up the left, justifiably criticize starmer without alienating the center, and ideally would be commited to rooting out the wreckers. There are MPs who fit some of those roles but I'm not sure if any of them would stick their neck out. E: Also i think I would rather just die of corona than smoke tbh.
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I saw a couple of studies around the time it hit China and was just getting started in Italy positing that smokers might be less likely to get it due to the chemistry of their upper respiratory tract, but once they did have it they were some 14x more likely to progress to ARDS. Nicotine patches don't seem like they'd change either of those either way but I guess we're throwing everything at the wall.
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