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CountDrac posted:When I think of spacegames the first thing that comes to mind is prison gameplay. Who would want to explore different star systems with your purchased space jpgs? That stuff is for weirdos and losers!  Honestly if a game doesn't force-lock me into a room for at least 2 hours every other play session, I feel kind of ripped off really.
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You know, ESO has a great crime system, and it took them a long time to iterate on it to get it where it is now. It includes wanted levels that determine how aggressively you're pursued, including being so bad guards will kill on sight, a dynamic bounty and heat level that rises and falls based on the crime and whether it was even witnessed, a criminal underground where it's safe from the law and illegal goods can be sold, several ways to pay off your bounty, and the bounty itself just diminishing over time even if you log off. It's an entire mature fully-realized game system that enhances the game instead of feeling like a punishment. Get too high a bounty killing that guy in full view, or get caught trespassing? Go into the woods and run a dungeon or two while it wears off, or if it's already low, just avoid guards. Or sell the ill-gotten goods and pay the rest of the bounty. Did I mention there's an entire skill line you can advance that enhances the system even further, like allowing you to sell more illicit goods and reducing bounty payoff? So it's not like CIG didn't have a perfect template to steal, which is odd because theft is Chris Roberts's primary and only skill and trade. Instead, in true CIG fashion, they release hot poo poo which represents nothing more than their inability to design something functional, and instead is barebones inept crap that serves no purpose.
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Apr 22, 2020 18:30
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CIG's implementation of Jail reminds me of how it was handled in MUD door games in the BBS era. Do bad thing -> build up bad points Get enough bad points -> Teleported to Jail Wait out Jail sentence as bad points tick down -> Released into world I can't wait for them to move forward through the eras of game design, hopefully they can attach one game loop to each decade.
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Apr 22, 2020 18:31
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While you’re locked in prison, an anthropomorphic bear NPC should come and shake you down for real world money.
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Apr 22, 2020 18:31
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peter gabriel posted:You get crime stats for literally no reason all the time in game, it's going to be a real high quality car crash this, I used to get crime stats for gently caress all all the time. What don't you get about this being alpha. The fun is testing the broken mechanics and getting crime stats for no reasons and ending up in ingame jail is actually emergent gameplay that is fidelitious with the experience of being a youth in the criminal urban environment: cops arrest you for no drat reason. This is why Chris Roberts is a game design genius. He's going as far as doing social commentary. I've already had way more fun spending 10 hours of my realtime in ingame jail than playing any other AAA garbage that came out this year. Just for that, if SC never comes out, I already have had my money's worth of fun! Megalobster fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Apr 22, 2020 |
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Apr 22, 2020 18:32
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Holy poo poo! Ahahahaquote:Sure you die from glitches and end up in jail. But you want to live the pirate life, then buck up and test the pirate life. That's quite the argument. It's only fair for all to eat poo poo.
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Apr 22, 2020 18:35
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Beet Wagon posted:Holy poo poo lmao. When they first started talking about mandatory prison sentences I remember people speculating on 20 minute sentences and laughing because even that would kill the game. loving 18 hours are you kidding me? Forty minutes of hand-mining rocks in a cave? Honestly I don't even have words for how funny this is, it's loving wild. You know deep down... mission accomplished. This is obviously a goon internal op where goons pass "bad ideas" to an innocent Chris and he doesn't catch them in time while he's making the perfect video game for children. Once he realizes that he'd been bamboozled again by those crafty goons, he'll wisely turn down the punishment timer to something normal humans would tolerate in a video game. Like removing the concept of actually having a prison sentence. But it will take time. CR is too smart for us and he's going to outwit those silly goons once again and their silly 18 hour prison sentences in a video game for children.
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Apr 22, 2020 18:39
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Beet Wagon posted:Holy poo poo lmao. When they first started talking about mandatory prison sentences I remember people speculating on 20 minute sentences and laughing because even that would kill the game. loving 18 hours are you kidding me? Forty minutes of hand-mining rocks in a cave? Honestly I don't even have words for how funny this is, it's loving wild. Nobody's gonna do the hand mining, the prison sentence will amount to however much time it takes for you to walk to the "Secret" exit. What are they gonna do, put in NPC guards to stop you? It'll just by another walking timer tacked on to a game that is nothing but walking timers.
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Apr 22, 2020 18:41
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trucutru posted:Holy poo poo! Ahahaha It's our responsibility as testers! A status that we, uh, let me check my notes, paid hundreds to thousands of dollars for. The Titanic posted:Once he realizes that he'd been bamboozled again by those crafty goons, he'll wisely turn down the punishment timer to something normal humans would tolerate in a video game. Like removing the concept of actually having a prison sentence. Or, more likely, everyone will avoid engaging with the system by next patch and it will be completely ignored by the devs and backers from then on out, progressively breaking more and more over time with minimal updates. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Apr 22, 2020 |
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Apr 22, 2020 18:42
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Don't worry pirates, there is but a single prison, with a single escape route that is always the same. Here mate, have a handy guide arrr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Z1BRv1Cq0 (waiting for the "escape from prison" bot.)
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Apr 22, 2020 18:44
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Everyone knows if there's one kind of testing that can't be automated, it's doing literally nothing as a timer ticks down. The technical feedback CIG is getting from this is invaluable.
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Apr 22, 2020 18:45
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Quavers posted:A look at the prison + presentation of its gameplay (10 min) Yep, that's dull.
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Apr 22, 2020 18:46
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trucutru posted:Holy poo poo! Ahahaha Cargo runners have been eating poo poo from 30ks for years now. But they keep going because it's good testing. Citizens' understanding of the concept of "Testing" mirrors Cave Johnson's from Portal 2.
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Apr 22, 2020 18:46
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Me, crashing to the same bug for the 500th time in 3 years, losing all progress: "Boy I'm really testing today!"
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Apr 22, 2020 18:48
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I enjoy picturing an exasperated, sweaty Chris stumbling and stammering his way through the day, pants halfway down to his knees as he shuffles around the office with a cold cup of coffee spilling over the sides on the cup and running down his forearms because he forgot to put it down before waving his hands, forever trapped in a thick cognitive mist and vague awareness that at one point, he was making a space game. At one point, he had a few stolen ideas and he was going to get someone else to make something about those ideas, but that time has passed, and his entire existence now is an existential hell of making it through each day of poo poo concepts, poo poo ideas, and congealed failure at every turn, as his company shits out one horrible, broken thing after another, and all of it unquestionably caused by him yet none of it what he ever wanted, and no end in sight. Welcome to purgatory, Chris.
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Apr 22, 2020 18:49
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trucutru posted:Don't worry pirates, there is but a single prison, with a single escape route that is always the same. Lol, according to the comments you can use global chat while in prison to ask people for help on how to escape
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Apr 22, 2020 18:49
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Lol, according to the comments you can use global chat while in prison to ask people for help on how to escape If the game could handle more commandos playing at the same time there would be a conga line in the secret tunnels. Also: Platforming "puzzles" in my space game? It's more common than you think!
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Apr 22, 2020 18:56
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trucutru posted:It's honestly a genius move by CIG and the whales will loving love it. Having other people be punished for attacking their chariots is like manna from heaven. yeah cater to the whales (CRs vision) any they shower you with more money maybe that works. lock the troublemakers away, even better on a dedicated “prison server“ so those freeloaders dont use the valuable bandwidth for the PU. this could be win-win indeed. but you know what would be totally awesome? if the systems were in place so that all the rear admirals and wing commanders could form fractions in a persistent single-shard universe to defend themselves with all their massively overpowered machinery. like you would hope it to be in a wild west setting. when i read that whale comment which was like “lock the griefers away!!“ i thought 'well that does not sound very heroic does it' also it does not sound very ecxiting either. so we now have prison and insurrance...what a fantastic alternative reality! i thought star citizens want to play heroes and villains? which is totally legit by the way.
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I just got an idea: Prison Ships. Basically, criminals are sent to your prison ship and then you set up the terms (and cost) for their release. You could even *ahem* do some enhanced interrogation on them, if you catch my drift. You can even force them to wear pink clothes and all that good poo poo. That's a multi-million dollar idea CIG, hire me!
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Quavers posted:
 that they think this isn't going to unleash a golden age of griefing. Now all you need to do is exploit a bug to get some rando a crime stat and not only do you blow up their ship (or whatever) now they need to go mine rocks for a quarter hour.
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Apr 22, 2020 19:14
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I really do like that CI
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Viscous Soda posted:
You can just play normally and steal someone's ship. You get crimestat, sure, but if they shoot you, they get one too, so they need to let you drive their space chariot until you're bored.
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Apr 22, 2020 19:29
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No one paid CIG money for prison game, people paid them money SEVEN years ago for dlc internet spaceships that they still have not delivered on. That's what's truly criminal and I hope will lead to Chris Roberts and friends getting a opportunity to experience some authentic prison time.
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Scruffpuff posted:I enjoy picturing an exasperated, sweaty Chris stumbling and stammering his way through the day, pants halfway down to his knees as he shuffles around the office with a cold cup of coffee spilling over the sides on the cup and running down his forearms because he forgot to put it down before waving his hands, forever trapped in a thick cognitive mist and vague awareness that at one point, he was making a space game. At one point, he had a few stolen ideas and he was going to get someone else to make something about those ideas, but that time has passed, and his entire existence now is an existential hell of making it through each day of poo poo concepts, poo poo ideas, and congealed failure at every turn, as his company shits out one horrible, broken thing after another, and all of it unquestionably caused by him yet none of it what he ever wanted, and no end in sight. This but with a hobo constantly trying to kissing his arse and suck his dick.
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https://www.dualthegame.com/en/news/2020/04/21/interview-with-hyperion-themis-4h-place-runner-up/ here is a cool interview with and org in dual universe. i propose a drinking game: each time you stumble across a buzzword/feature which you know from the sc project you shall drink a schnaps. tell me which words you spotted and how much schnaps you had to drink!
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Apr 22, 2020 19:54
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Dooguk posted:I was going to say they have the tools but not the pipelines. Then the video got to 2mins.  Robzilla posted:6 Years and I'm still happy about not spending one dime on this.
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Apr 22, 2020 20:17
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Popete posted:Why on earth would a barista need training in Jira? Are latte orders coming in via Jira issues? Yeah, I can see Office experience being somewhat useful if you need to use something like Outlook and Excel or Word for orders, drink lists etc... but Jira? For a barrista? WHY?!?  Is it so the Crobear can track where his cup of coffee is so he can come in and micromanage it halfway through? That is why, isn't it? 
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Sandweed posted:I'm reading that it only counts down while you are inngame. If this is true, I am all for this amazing gameplay loop. In fact I think if you hit another prisoner while in prison it should add hours to your sentence.  If you don't mine rocks at a sufficient rate, you should be punished in additional ways too because this is space jail and things get real in space jail.
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Surely the solution for dedicated Citizens will be to buy themselves out, paying off the "prison" "guards"? With real cash. Bribery tokens, available from the CIG store soon ...
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Apr 22, 2020 20:34
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Chris Robbers and his flunkies are tried and convicted of scamming. They're given a ten year sentence but can work to burn time off their sentence by playing Star Citizen.
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colonelwest posted:While you’re locked in prison, an anthropomorphic bear NPC should come and shake you down for real world money. That would actually be fun, which means it's completely out 
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 French streamer just escaped from prison after 3hours in!https://clips.twitch.tv/CuteCuriousWasabiPicoMause A lot have found the way out from the prison. But this man is so happy to do it after so many trys in a painfull run, full of lags and desynch. Until... Btw, keep it up Hugo if you see this,it was a great moment to share  
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Saurus has spent the last couple of hours falling off rocks, ranting about the control. Shame.
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Quavers posted:
It's amazing to picture all these people simultaneously pretending to be playing a game. Star Citizen ladies and gentlemen.
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colonelwest posted:While you’re locked in prison, an anthropomorphic bear NPC should come and shake you down for real world money. This is a little too close to reality here. They may as well install an easy button that directly links your credit card on file to an in game button as a "bear breaks you out of jail!" action. 
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The Titanic posted:*she goes back to playing Animal Crossing* at least the grind is gameplay and they don't call it prison.
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Dear god... Tom Nook is just raccoon Crobear!!
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colonelwest posted:While you’re locked in prison, an anthropomorphic bear NPC should come and shake you down for real world money.  I need to learn/buy photoshop someday. Because this is terrible. But it made me laugh while making it, so there's that. Even if I learned how to round the bottom edges or something...
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