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ConfusedUs posted:Fixed that for you it was heck of whiplash to go from the scene of cio teaching allison magic lessons with the "oh harder!" fakeout and then allison straight up asking to gently caress on the next page now, to me it seems the whole carapace deal that cio's... encased in would pose a quandary, plus the concept of having relations with a barely-contained mass of writhing black flame, but I can only assume this thread has already made every possible joke regarding the mechanics thereof
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But not Solomon’s nipples. (There was one panel with a minor art error that goons would not shut up about for months.)
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Apr 23, 2020 05:24
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Tulip posted:When Meti says that being a noodle vendor is a good thing to be, it isn't because noodle vendors don't care, it's because they care very deeply about something that makes people's lives better in a way you can actually control, without becoming a horrible control freak who ruins everyone around you. Sword Law itself is very pragmatic in that the first and most important thing it tries to instill in new students is that swords are very silly things only good for killing people and your Master will think better of you for quitting their tutelage. There are thousands of better paths you could take that are long, happy, and don't involve getting stabbed or maimed. Take your sword, beat it into a plow, and it will be a far greater tool for the rest of your days. But, if you really want to learn how to use a sword, then at least learn how to cut something properly. Tulip posted:When Meti says that being a noodle vendor is a good thing to be, it isn't because noodle vendors don't care, it's because they care very deeply about something that makes people's lives better in a way you can actually control, without becoming a horrible control freak who ruins everyone around you. Meti only had one apprentice. Incubus was merely part of the lesson.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Meti only had one apprentice. Incubus was merely part of the lesson. A lesson that involves Incubus becoming the god of a seventh of creation is a bad lesson.
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wiegieman posted:A lesson that involves Incubus becoming the god of a seventh of creation is a bad lesson. That was because she didn't learn it the first time over a rat.
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wiegieman posted:A lesson that involves Incubus becoming the god of a seventh of creation is a bad lesson. When it comes to drunks that lived in barrels, you kind of get what you get.
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wiegieman posted:A lesson that involves Incubus becoming the god of a seventh of creation is a bad lesson. Yeah, but Maya became a Swordmaster.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Sword Law itself is very pragmatic in that the first and most important thing it tries to instill in new students is that swords are very silly things only good for killing people and your Master will think better of you for quitting their tutelage. There are thousands of better paths you could take that are long, happy, and don't involve getting stabbed or maimed. Take your sword, beat it into a plow, and it will be a far greater tool for the rest of your days. What if someone tried to combine both? make your sword into a plow, plow your enemies literally into the ground to fertilize your tomatoes. I'm sure at least one person had some pretty good results with this idea.
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thechosenone posted:What if someone tried to combine both? make your sword into a plow, plow your enemies literally into the ground to fertilize your tomatoes. I'm sure at least one person had some pretty good results with this idea. This is the kind of story that almost certainly ends with "their slain corpse was used to fertilize their own garden/farmland".
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Sword Law itself is very pragmatic in that the first and most important thing it tries to instill in new students is that swords are very silly things only good for killing people and your Master will think better of you for quitting their tutelage. There are thousands of better paths you could take that are long, happy, and don't involve getting stabbed or maimed. Take your sword, beat it into a plow, and it will be a far greater tool for the rest of your days. Well, unless a universal war starts up regardless of your actions.
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Happy Underpants posted:Does Cio have spiracles? Or bones? or thumbs?
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wiegieman posted:A lesson that involves Incubus becoming the god of a seventh of creation is a bad lesson. Meti never claimed to be a good teacher.
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Pro gardening tip you can't just plow your enemies into the fields because meat (and poo poo) need to be extensively hardcore composted for greater than one year or you're gonna get real gross problems. Wc is gonna make like a tree and be forcibly escorted out
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Honestly I feel like Incubus has every right to be upset about Meti, who treated him (at least according to Maya) solely as a lesson for her, when he was an absolutely devoted student who internalized everything she told him and acted on it constantly and reflexively. Hell, she even said to throw her body to the dogs, and he did it. Incubus learned everything he was taught and he’s still ‘not really a student.’ Incubus claimed a seventh of Creation by means no less legitimate than the others, and he’s still the one with the ‘stolen throne.’ Incubus started as a filthy war-orphan and turned himself into an anime demigod through sheer unflinching dedication, and they all disdain him - not even for his absolute moral bankruptcy, which would at least be fair! Really I bet if Meti has been even a little bit less terrible a teacher we’d have vastly less of an Incubus problem (and he would probably be dead from the Universal War, tbqh).
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Incubus took all of the teachings of Meti to heart and lives and breathes her lessons. It's just that Meti taught him wrong as a joke.
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nimby posted:Incubus took all of the teachings of Meti to heart and lives and breathes her lessons. "Became God of one-seventh of existence because you didn't kill him when you had the chance" is a pretty firm lesson to give.
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PMush Perfect posted:But not Solomon’s nipples. (There was one panel with a minor art error that goons would not shut up about for months.) and we were doing so well not bringing it up, too anyway i wouldn't be surprised if we're seeing the birth of a new Knight order here, essentially
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Neddy Seagoon posted:This is the kind of story that almost certainly ends with "their slain corpse was used to fertilize their own garden/farmland". Sounds like a Nier weapon story
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Cio has stridulation organs which means she can lie down on the bed and bend her legs back and stroke them together to create a loud noise to attract lesbians.
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Weird how movies keep using that sound effect for awkward pauses
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Motherfucker posted:Cio has stridulation organs which means she can lie down on the bed and bend her legs back and stroke them together to create a loud noise to attract lesbians.
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I think Maya was wrong. Meti was teaching them both, and Incubus proved himself the more able student. Meti's lessons result in terrible power.
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Patware posted:is 'soldave can't bleed' based on anything I believe people are basing this assumption on the fact that Solomon David bears the word Diamond. The hardest and most difficult gem to cut and which is often used as a cutter itself. VanSandman posted:I think Maya was wrong. Meti was teaching them both, and Incubus proved himself the more able student. I agree with this interpretation. Maya is lying to herself about being the one "true" student instead of the one who couldn't commit fully to Sword Law.
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Maya didn’t hesitate to cut down her enemy to save the fleeing Allison, even though it nearly killed her.
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white chain knows the fourth syllable of royalty: Diamond
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OhFunny posted:I believe people are basing this assumption on the fact that Solomon David bears the word Diamond. The hardest and most difficult gem to cut and which is often used as a cutter itself. Others may be interpreting that literally, but I've got a relatively non-literal read on the applicability of "Diamond." It's not that he literally cannot bleed, its that either you win decisively or he no-sells. He won't die from a bunch of small things adding up, or fall apart because of a technicality. Interestingly there's a visual reinforcement of this theme in our chapter - the Great Chariot Cannon wins a major climactic duel through massive, overwhelming one-shot..
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VanSandman posted:I think Maya was wrong. Meti was teaching them both, and Incubus proved himself the more able student. Yeah, I don't see a real reason to assume that Maya is correct in her interpretation. She might have walked away from being a demiurge, but I think she still has some of that demiurge self-delusion going on.
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I don't think it's right to say Incubus came out of Meti's tuition any better, though. He's as stagnant as the rest of them, and choking on his own pride. What's more, he has quite a few enemies, that aren't currently either dead or killing him, which definitely is not the Meti way.
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:To be fair, being disgusted with your power and going on a hobo bender does keep a lot more in line with Meti's actions, which may be thought of as the most fundemental portion of her teachings Yeah, in that regard Maya is the clear ideological successor to Meti's teaching Also, Meti only (disparagingly) acknowledged one student in her book, and described her as a glutton. The thin white duke hardly looks the type.
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Mr. Lobe posted:Yeah, in that regard Maya is the clear ideological successor to Meti's teaching It is entirely in character for Meti to call Maya a tremendous glutton, despite her being ridiculously ripped at the time.
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Mr. Lobe posted:
A glutton... for cocaine!!
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Hey, wait. Maya went off and became a demiurge - one of the most powerful people in the universe, and possibly strong enough to deserve a place in the Pact of the Seven-Part World - only after her training with Meti. So, did Maya just forget Meti's teachings for a while, and decide that actually, being a demiurge sounds pretty good, and then start romping and stomping and conquering? I'm struggling to reconcile the awkwardly moral Maya in her flashback, and the world-straddling overlord who gave up her throne to Incubus (assuming that theory is correct).
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Boron_the_Moron posted:Hey, wait. Maya went off and became a demiurge - one of the most powerful people in the universe, and possibly strong enough to deserve a place in the Pact of the Seven-Part World - only after her training with Meti. So, did Maya just forget Meti's teachings for a while, and decide that actually, being a demiurge sounds pretty good, and then start romping and stomping and conquering? I'm struggling to reconcile the awkwardly moral Maya in her flashback, and the world-straddling overlord who gave up her throne to Incubus (assuming that theory is correct). I think she decided to try to do something, since she learned the sword to defend her city. She did so remarkably successfully, took over the Middle Army, developed a drinking problem, and eventually hosed off leaving Incubus to claim her key. Probably after realizing that she had become everything she was trying to stop.
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Boron_the_Moron posted:Hey, wait. Maya went off and became a demiurge - one of the most powerful people in the universe, and possibly strong enough to deserve a place in the Pact of the Seven-Part World - only after her training with Meti. So, did Maya just forget Meti's teachings for a while, and decide that actually, being a demiurge sounds pretty good, and then start romping and stomping and conquering? I'm struggling to reconcile the awkwardly moral Maya in her flashback, and the world-straddling overlord who gave up her throne to Incubus (assuming that theory is correct). Maya didn't actually learn the lessons until much later, likely well after Meti's death.
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