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Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Danknificent posted:

Wait wait -- was this guy staging an actual escape and then falls through the floor before reaching the ship there to get him? Is that what happened there?

The inevitable to end to any endeavor in Star Citizen that takes more than 15 minutes outside your ship

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Danknificent
Nov 20, 2015

Jinkies! Looks like we've got a mystery on our hands.
Yeah, but is there a mechanic where you can legit escape from the prison? Or did he glitch his way to freedom?

Do the mechanics of the game actually support in some way escaping prison, then getting a lift from your mates in their ship? If so, that's pretty gangster. I know none of it works, but the potential.

marumaru
May 20, 2013



Danknificent posted:

Yeah, but is there a mechanic where you can legit escape from the prison? Or did he glitch his way to freedom?

Do the mechanics of the game actually support in some way escaping prison, then getting a lift from your mates in their ship? If so, that's pretty gangster. I know none of it works, but the potential.

yeah, it's a thing.
however prison is meant to be strictly punishment, so it's boring as gently caress (and it's in star citizen so you can bet your rear end it won't work)

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Isn't escaping just randomly wandering thru tunnels until you find the exit? There's no guards to stop you right?

marumaru
May 20, 2013



Popete posted:

Isn't escaping just randomly wandering thru tunnels until you find the exit? There's no guards to stop you right?

yeah but there's a ton of tunnels, they're long, and many have dead ends
have fun!

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?
You can fit all of Skyrim in that jail cell.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Danknificent posted:

Wait wait -- was this guy staging an actual escape and then falls through the floor before reaching the ship there to get him? Is that what happened there?

As a final "gently caress you" there are a couple of steps missing in the last ladder before you escape prison, which is actually great rear end in a top hat design. You can reach the surface of that moon afterwards.

The surface temperature on that moon is 240 degrees Celsius so you get fried in a minute or two. Fortunately there is shack there for protection

The shack has a password protected door, so you die unless you noticed some numbers that are the password during your escape. There is a rover inside which you can drive to your freedom

The path is full of rocks that launch your janky rover into the air and destroy it, so you have to drive really carefully to finally escape.

After you escape you're still a criminal and still playing SC.

The aristocrats!

marumaru
May 20, 2013



trucutru posted:

As a final "gently caress you" there are a couple of steps missing in the last ladder before you escape prison, which is actually great rear end in a top hat design. You can reach the surface of that moon afterwards.

The surface temperature on that moon is 240 degrees Celsius so you get fried in a minute or two. Fortunately there is shack there for protection

The shack has a password protected door, so you die unless you noticed some numbers that are the password during your escape. There is a rover inside which you can drive to your freedom

The path is full of rocks that launch your janky rover into the air and destroy it, so you have to drive really carefully to finally escape.

After you escape you're still playing SC.

The aristocrats!

i legitimately can't tell if this is true or not, but i somehow do not doubt it

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Inacio posted:

i legitimately can't tell if this is true or not, but i somehow do not doubt it

It's all true. I also edited my post to remind everybody that you're still a criminal after you escape so, if you crash sometime later you go straight back to prison.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Kosumo posted:

There is even a space "Sandiworm Ate My Turtle" mission giver where you have to work your way up the charts.
Groovy reference, Clive :golfclap:

AutismVaccine
Feb 26, 2017


SPECIAL NEEDS
SQUAD

trucutru posted:

As a final "gently caress you" there are a couple of steps missing in the last ladder before you escape prison, which is actually great rear end in a top hat design. You can reach the surface of that moon afterwards.

The surface temperature on that moon is 240 degrees Celsius so you get fried in a minute or two. Fortunately there is shack there for protection

The shack has a password protected door, so you die unless you noticed some numbers that are the password during your escape. There is a rover inside which you can drive to your freedom

The path is full of rocks that launch your janky rover into the air and destroy it, so you have to drive really carefully to finally escape.

After you escape you're still a criminal and still playing SC.

The aristocrats!
StarCitizen is just the best designed game ever. Who needs space stuff in a space game

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Can't believe this poo poo got past CR.

This looks like the same texture with a different color for a different flavor.

Who the gently caress green lit this travesty of immersion breaking?!

CR is dedicated to making procedural eggs so every plate of eggs is different. And... THIS is the ice cream we get with those eggs?!!??

This is it.

My wallet is loving closed now. :colbert:

The Titanic fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Apr 23, 2020

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

The Dirtiest Harry posted:

"Not engaging with boring mechanics is a crime, punishable by several hours of forced engagement with boring mechanics, citizen."

I haven't properly looked at a Star Citizen video in a couple of years. I took a look at that video above of the person purchasing an individual bottle off the shelf, and playing an animation of them unscrewing and re-screwing the lid, and that is it for me. This game will never be finished. Imagine every time someone wants to add a new consumable, this simple addition is blocked by someone else having to remember to spend god-knows-how-long to create the maximum-fidelity package-opening animation, and literally assign it physical shelf space in every vendor in the universe. And then keep track of it, and remember to update the animation when the model of the bottle, or the hand, or the vendor shelving changes, etc etc ad infinitum.

Now imagine this stupidity, but for every single tiny little thing in the game. For every minor change and addition you need to trace 26 different requirements across every department in the studio, because if someone forgets to correctly and "realistically" program the weight of the new wrench you added to the game, it will fly around your ship's cabin at light-speed and kill everyone inside.

Is there a tiny, tiny piece of grognard deep inside my soul that likes the thought of a perfectly simulated second life in the far space-future? Yeah, sure. But in reality it would be utterly impossible to create and maintain, and would be soul crushingly boring because most of the discrete actions people take on a daily basis are tedious busywork on the path to a productive goal.

So what I see you saying here is:

"We need so much motion capture it's almost impossible!"

Well. I'm pretty sure this is the whole point of the game. This is why CR is invested into it. Motion capture and art assets.

Enjoy Star Citizen, friend. :)

Danknificent
Nov 20, 2015

Jinkies! Looks like we've got a mystery on our hands.
A long time ago I read Christopher Lee's memoir. In it he mentions a memory from the war in which he and some soldiers found like a boxcar or something that the Germans had filled with porn and like women's clothing. He doesn't explicitly state what he thought went on in there, but he said something like: "The others and I were very impressed that the Germans had something like this,"

I look at the heap of shenanigans that is Star Citizen, and I think I feel what they felt.

It really is something.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

trucutru posted:


The surface temperature on that moon is 240 degrees Celsius so you get fried in a minute or two. Fortunately there is shack there for protection


Pffft. Look at this fudster. Tell me goon, what are the Argon levels?

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Danknificent posted:

Wait wait -- was this guy staging an actual escape and then falls through the floor before reaching the ship there to get him? Is that what happened there?

Should have known better than to try running up some stairs in Star Citizen.

Viscous Soda
Apr 24, 2004

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

Oh, and you can just drop the bottle on the ground when you're done drinking?

I'm sure no one will ever drop hundreds of them in one spot and crash the server...

Even better, if you look at the end of the video the bottle still exists even after the player throws it into the trash. So I'm guessing the bottles just exist no matter what until some sort of house keeping script cleans them up... or maybe there is no cleanup and CIG just relies on server restarts to get rid of them.

Dynastocles
May 29, 2009

"If you'll excuse me, my dinner time is six o'clock. Only gangsters eat at 9 o'clock, after some bootlegging and a hot game of craps."

trucutru posted:

As a final "gently caress you" there are a couple of steps missing in the last ladder before you escape prison, which is actually great rear end in a top hat design. You can reach the surface of that moon afterwards.

The surface temperature on that moon is 240 degrees Celsius so you get fried in a minute or two. Fortunately there is shack there for protection

The shack has a password protected door, so you die unless you noticed some numbers that are the password during your escape. There is a rover inside which you can drive to your freedom

The path is full of rocks that launch your janky rover into the air and destroy it, so you have to drive really carefully to finally escape.

After you escape you're still a criminal and still playing SC.

The aristocrats!

Even better, since this is the only way to escape, everyone will have to repeat all of these steps every single time they want to escape. And if multiple people try to escape at the same time, you'll have an immersion-breaking cue of people waiting for their turn to get into the shack and steal the rover once it respawns.

But at least it's aMbiTiOuS!!!

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help

BiggestOrangeTree posted:

Yeah well uh, in fact, a thousand Butcher Bays could fit into a single crater in Star Citizen, so, I think you should consider that, also fidelity, in fact I would not be surprised if Vin Diesel asks CIG to make his next movie in Star Citizen

But how many Star Citizers fit into the bottomless crater that is Store Citrizen development?

Mr.PayDay
Jan 2, 2004
life is short - play hard
Sta

iron buns posted:

Reddit discovers the Monetisation Designer:

:v: They really should just charge a monthly fee. If no monthly fee is part of the Kickstarter promises then exempt Kickstarter backers from it, or weasel out of it somehow. Doesn't matter what they call it, whether it's "life insurance" or "pilot's license fee" or whatever.

:downs: I would like to see sponsors around the vers (like the AMD themed ship. I think there's some good money to be made there and shop long as the ads are carefully placed and not over done, I don't mind. Shirts, billboards, ship skins ect... I can see a hull-c with a Monster energy drink ad plastered on the side of it. In my opinion, it would ad to the immersion and generate revenue.

:raise: The language they use is a giant red flag for me. KPIs, player retention. Monetization maximization. Look at other games to stay at the forefront (in terms of monetization). This looks horrible! I don't mind monitization, but this seems to be wirtten by corporate commander himself.

:homebrew: I don't mind if they keep selling ships beyond "release". I don't really give a poo poo if some other person grinded for their ship or bought it. I don't see the point in stopping to sell ships. If it's okay now (and it is), it's okay after "launch", and it's an awesome and steady source of revenue. There's gonna be p2w arguments anyway, so gently caress it, go for it.

:( Hello EA my old friend...

:reddit: I personally want a subscription based travel visa, where I can play for free in a few systems, or pay for a travel visa that let's me visit new systems, etc... I'm 1200 bucks into the game though, and as long as they count some (or all) of that money towards my subscription fee, I'm more than happy to have a subscription. Its really the best way to go.


Star Citizen: I can see a hull-c with a Monster energy drink ad

Zazz Razzamatazz
Apr 19, 2016

by sebmojo

Scruffpuff posted:

As much of an inept moron Chris is, and as much as this entire debacle can be laid directly at his feet, he has to know that what the project currently is is nothing like what he "envisioned." All his early days talk of epic space opera and shootyships action and fleet battles and boarding etc. has given way to broken VOIP, turtles, ice cream cones, and prison gameplay which is the logical conclusion of CIG's ability: a guy in an empty room. Finally something (mostly) within their ability!

We know he's arrogant, and we know he's not afraid to be tough on his employees, we have all that documented from the people who've worked with him over the years. So HOW is any of this complete bullshit hitting prime time? Why isn't he having an absolute loving stroke at the moment? None of this is even close to what he himself wanted to make.

I think, ultimately, that starting a couple years ago, he has no actual say any more. He's a figurehead and nothing more. It was one thing to have more and more ridiculous types of ships for imagined gameplay, that lined up with his goals. But in the last couple years, "caves," "prisons," etc. but no progress on the core experience. And he's trapped watching a fire he set rage out of control while the "game" morphs into an unrecognizable blob of pure poo poo that nearly the opposite of what he originally wanted.

That is beautiful justice in its own way.

I'm not so sure about that first part.

I don't think he actually plays the game. (remember the last time he did on one of the livestreams? :lol: )

I think the devs are focused less on making a good game, and focused more preventing Chris from yelling at them in front of everyone. As long as it looks good, then it is good.

I mean, that's the one and only strength of the game right? It can make for some pretty screenshots.

I think when he shows up at the office around 10:00 or 11:00 he'll waddle up to whatever hapless dev's desk that happens to be in his line of sight that day. "What, uh, do you have, uh, today." He'll stammer and the dev will be all "Look! Ice cream cones!" And Chris will mumble something about more fidelity, and that the green ice cream should be blue (and the blue one green) and then wander off to his office to run a rail of coke or whatever he does all day...

He's seen videos of people in spaceships fighting, so that must be working alright (and if it isn't someone's working on that anyway, right?)

They paid Rex to organize Rex totally organically organized some FPS "PvP fights", so that's working, right?

The money keeps rolling in, even during a major economic downturn and recession, so everything's fine, right?

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

Dynastocles posted:

Even better, since this is the only way to escape, everyone will have to repeat all of these steps every single time they want to escape. And if multiple people try to escape at the same time, you'll have an immersion-breaking cue of people waiting for their turn to get into the shack and steal the rover once it respawns.

But at least it's aMbiTiOuS!!!

It's only 50 people per server. It's not going to be much of a queue

Zazz Razzamatazz
Apr 19, 2016

by sebmojo

Viscous Soda posted:

Even better, if you look at the end of the video the bottle still exists even after the player throws it into the trash. So I'm guessing the bottles just exist no matter what until some sort of house keeping script cleans them up... or maybe there is no cleanup and CIG just relies on server restarts to get rid of them.

Yeah, lol.

I'm thinking back to Skyrim videos I saw where a player would spawn in a bunch of cheese wheels or cabbage and bring the game to a standstill. And this was before my time in the game, but Eve used to have mines and had to remove them because they would negatively impact performance. (SC isn't gonna have mines in the game will it? :trustme: )

And that means that the server is going to have to tell every player in the game about the water bottle Player X dropped on the floor right? Or did they fix that yet?

marumaru
May 20, 2013



The Titanic posted:

Can't believe this poo poo got past CR.

This looks like the same texture with a different color for a different flavor.

Who the gently caress green lit this travesty of immersion breaking?!

CR is dedicated to making procedural eggs so every plate of eggs is different. And... THIS is the ice cream we get with those eggs?!!??

This is it.

My wallet is loving closed now. :colbert:

now post this on the subreddit but make it sound like a citizen wrote it

...just copy paste what you wrote.

BumbleOne
Jul 1, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

this is out-of-this-world


This game is diarrhea coming out of my dick!
This game is as appealing as a loving ooze-infested dirty loving sewer rat poo poo!
I've had more fun playing with dog turds!
Shredder's my rear end and Splinter's my balls, this game is an inside-out rear end in a top hat regurgitated putrid anal fecal matter!
I'd rather loving yank all the hairs out of my scrotum! I'd rather drink diarrhea vomited out of a buffalo's anus!


- james rolfe / avgn

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

Inacio posted:

quote:

As of today the redeemer has now been pledgeable for 2000 days.

What were you doing back in the 1st of November 2014? Some of you reading this might have pre-ordered the Four Horseman's Aegis Redeemer the day it came out, and have been waiting ever since. That was now 2000 days ago now we still don't have it and you can say it's gone backwards since that time too as you can no longer access it's interior.

Now there are many old ships in this game that aren't ready yet that I understand since the tech required isn't there yet, or are not suited with the game's current state (but that hasn't stopped some being made anyway). But that hasn't ever been the case for the redeemer since 2.0. There is no major tech halting it's capability and that is to me what makes it the most frustrating ship to wait for.

Yes it needs a major redesign I don't think that is a fair excuse when this is THE community ship that brought people together in a different era of CIG. It just feels disrespectful at this point so many new ships are being made when I was still waiting for this all these years. I contacted CIG support a month ago and actually was able to downgrade to a different ship and have store credit, usually they never allow this but was granted an exception due to the major delay of this item.

It's 5 and a half years now, you owe us this one CIG. Can we atleast get a confirmation of it being on the roadmap by 2020?

The Banu Merchantman was first sold 2346 days ago :toot:

marumaru
May 20, 2013



Quavers posted:

The Banu Merchantman was first sold 2346 days ago :toot:


but that one's ok because they feature creeped so much on it it's now like 30x more work to do, so it's fine.
early days

biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke



They should have got the pedo ship designer guy to help with the prison gameplay.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

biglads posted:

They should have got the pedo ship designer guy to help with the prison gameplay.

:drat:

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

Yeah, lol.

I'm thinking back to Skyrim videos I saw where a player would spawn in a bunch of cheese wheels or cabbage and bring the game to a standstill. And this was before my time in the game, but Eve used to have mines and had to remove them because they would negatively impact performance. (SC isn't gonna have mines in the game will it? :trustme: )

And that means that the server is going to have to tell every player in the game about the water bottle Player X dropped on the floor right? Or did they fix that yet?

This brings back memories, back in the day it was cans in EVE. We'd dump as many as we could in gate spawn locations, made piracy so much easier, and the tears were worth every mind numbing hour we would camp.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

monkeytek posted:

This brings back memories, back in the day it was cans in EVE. We'd dump as many as we could in gate spawn locations, made piracy so much easier, and the tears were worth every mind numbing hour we would camp.

There are so many more ways to crash the server in SC though. Logging in, for example.

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe
Does your heart still explode if you run too much in game?

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

Yeah, lol.

I'm thinking back to Skyrim videos I saw where a player would spawn in a bunch of cheese wheels or cabbage and bring the game to a standstill. And this was before my time in the game, but Eve used to have mines and had to remove them because they would negatively impact performance. (SC isn't gonna have mines in the game will it? :trustme: )

And that means that the server is going to have to tell every player in the game about the water bottle Player X dropped on the floor right? Or did they fix that yet?

Not sure if you're joking, but yes, of course they well have mines. In fact, there is a dedicated minelayer ship you can buy here:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/aegis-nautilus/Nautilus

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Inacio posted:

now post this on the subreddit but make it sound like a citizen wrote it

...just copy paste what you wrote.

I am a Star Citizen!

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Bumble He posted:

this is out-of-this-world


This game is diarrhea coming out of my dick!
This game is as appealing as a loving ooze-infested dirty loving sewer rat poo poo!
I've had more fun playing with dog turds!
Shredder's my rear end and Splinter's my balls, this game is an inside-out rear end in a top hat regurgitated putrid anal fecal matter!
I'd rather loving yank all the hairs out of my scrotum! I'd rather drink diarrhea vomited out of a buffalo's anus!


- james rolfe / avgn

You guys are really hell bent on dicks and shoving you balls into things lately.

Time_pants
Jun 25, 2012

Now sauntering to the ring, please welcome the lackadaisical style of the man who is always doing something...

Scruffpuff posted:

We know he's arrogant, and we know he's not afraid to be tough on his employees, we have all that documented from the people who've worked with him over the years. So HOW is any of this complete bullshit hitting prime time? Why isn't he having an absolute loving stroke at the moment? None of this is even close to what he himself wanted to make.
I'm pretty sure it's because he's still getting to pay himself an unconscionable amount of money in perpetuity, and, ultimately, that's vastly more important to him than seeing whatever dopey "vision" he had of this shitshow through to completion.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Quavers posted:


The Banu Merchantman was first sold 2346 days ago :toot:

And as slow as I am with artwork, I made lewd fan set of that and completed it as well between them and now. That's pretty tremendous of me to complete something before an entire company of 600+ people!

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"

Extra Large Marge posted:

Does your heart still explode if you run too much in game?

What does your surviving kidney tell you?

Oh yes

BumbleOne
Jul 1, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

The Titanic posted:

You guys are really hell bent on dicks and shoving you balls into things lately.

why do you assume i'm a guy?
and my post was a just a quote :D

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colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

Time_pants posted:

I'm pretty sure it's because he's still getting to pay himself an unconscionable amount of money in perpetuity, and, ultimately, that's vastly more important to him than seeing whatever dopey "vision" he had of this shitshow through to completion.



I think Chris believes he deserves the money for his amazing “vision”, but he also craves the adulation of his fans and peers, and he still has his eye on a triumphant return to Hollywood. I think if he really knew and accepted the score, he would have found a graceful exit from this mess and quietly retired Lord British style. He could easily declare himself “creative consultant” or “executive producer” and leave some stooge in charge of the company. He still wants to somehow pull a successful game out of this mess, and SQ42 is his baby, a turd that he will continually try to polish until the money runs out and he is forced to release it into the world.

colonelwest fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Apr 23, 2020

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