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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
"What The gently caress Is Jacobin" - the greatest thread in the history of forums, locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate,

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The Ultimate Doge
May 1, 2019

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ardennes posted:

There is a kernel of truth/materialism to the protests, people are increasingly desperate but are not only is opening stores going to kill or maim untold numbers,

No it won't. We're way in the green with ventilators right now

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

The Ultimate Doge posted:

No it won't. We're way in the green with ventilators right now

fishing for responses like this in every thread is sad man, at least post some white noise...

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



dex_sda posted:

I actually want to ask: what the gently caress is jacobin? I'm not american just listening to their politics beacuse they influence the world

it's a magazine whose editorial politics is firmly in the bernie camp and their readership has a lot of overlap with dsa

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
it's basically the unofficial magazine of the DSA. like the editor and staff are all DSA members so

THS
Sep 15, 2017

jacobin was the first leftwing magazine that didnt have garbage dogshit graphic design

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world
i will always hate jacobin for trying to rehabilitate kautsky and bukharin almost back to back. it's on a level beyond trot at this point

Ferrinus fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Apr 24, 2020

Hilario Baldness
Feb 10, 2005

:buddy:



Grimey Drawer
Jacobin isn't socialist. That's it. It all flows from that.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Shear Modulus posted:

it's a magazine whose editorial politics is firmly in the bernie camp and their readership has a lot of overlap with dsa

So, playing at socialism without the dick to commit?

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

trots!! theyre trots!!

The Ultimate Doge
May 1, 2019

by Nyc_Tattoo

Homeless Friend posted:

fishing for responses like this in every thread is sad man, at least post some white noise...

Not sure what you mean. I was just saying opening stores isn't gonna kill people because we've got the resources to deal with covid infections now

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

smarxist posted:

who is hollering "READ THE ARTICLE" outside my home? show yourself coward i will never read the article!

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
The survival rate of someone on a ventilator is around 12%.

Basically, the argument is to murder tens-hundreds of thousands of people to get a small bump from retail sales for 2 weeks. It isn't surprising considering you are talking about America.

Cnidaria
Apr 10, 2009

It's all politics, Mike.

The Ultimate Doge posted:

Not sure what you mean. I was just saying opening stores isn't gonna kill people because we've got the resources to deal with covid infections now

we do not have the resources, sorry

The Ultimate Doge
May 1, 2019

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ardennes posted:

The survival rate of someone on a ventilator is around 12%.

Basically, the argument is to murder tens-hundreds of thousands of people to get a small bump from retail sales for 2 weeks. It isn't surprising considering you are talking about America.

What exactly makes you think the death rate would be lower if we opened later? What's going to change it?

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

The Ultimate Doge posted:

What exactly makes you think the death rate would be lower if we opened later? What's going to change it?

We need a full lockdown for 3 weeks.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Ardennes posted:

We need a full lockdown for 3 weeks.

Its so simple, but its never going to happen. That is funny.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

The simplest thing's are often the most difficult to see realized... dialectics

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
a full lock down is impossible in America anyway. there’s no support infrastructure and that’s ignoring the sovereign citizens that will fling themselves at the national guardsmen needed to enforce it

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Speaking of CIA-engineered coronavirus, rhizzone made a good post on it https://rhizzone.net/articles/reminder-amerikans-your-government-wants-you-die/ its titled "reminder to amerikans: your government wants you to die" but dont be fooled, it was published a whole 24 hours before president dorito drumpf told people to start IV'ing clorox

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
capitalist stooge wants to restart capitalism isn’t really worth that many words

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Yes it is, actually

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
that chomsky quote right at the top is good poo poo

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Algund Eenboom posted:

Speaking of CIA-engineered coronavirus, rhizzone made a good post on it https://rhizzone.net/articles/reminder-amerikans-your-government-wants-you-die/ its titled "reminder to amerikans: your government wants you to die" but dont be fooled, it was published a whole 24 hours before president dorito drumpf told people to start IV'ing clorox

yeah the governments response since the beginning has been shock doctrine brought home

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

doing to your lungs what we did to Russia in the 1990s

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/micahuetricht/status/1253745756470722560

there is a frightening amount of people in the replies defending Chomsky

where is the lie?

Chomsky wrote one book rehashing Gramsci on hegemony

Everything else has been leftcom moralizing mixed with bad history

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Having moral constraints is good no matter how blackpilled you are or profess to be itt

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Ardennes posted:

We need a full lockdown for 3 weeks.

thats socialism tho, and antifreedom

Plz ignore that every fervently socialist place has handled this crisis so well they may be living normally within weeks

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


T-man posted:

Having moral constraints is good no matter how blackpilled you are or profess to be itt

:hai:

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
https://twitter.com/benjalow_/status/1253835999240695808?s=20

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



betrayed by bernie and by chomsky within like a week

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006


lol

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

T-man posted:

Having moral constraints is good no matter how blackpilled you are or profess to be itt

moral posturing doesn't achieve anything

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

Algund Eenboom posted:

Speaking of CIA-engineered coronavirus, rhizzone made a good post on it https://rhizzone.net/articles/reminder-amerikans-your-government-wants-you-die/ its titled "reminder to amerikans: your government wants you to die" but dont be fooled, it was published a whole 24 hours before president dorito drumpf told people to start IV'ing clorox

dude ive been saying this

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Shear Modulus posted:

betrayed by bernie and by chomsky within like a week

Well man what can I tell you its 2020.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Top City Homo posted:

where is the lie?

Chomsky wrote one book rehashing Gramsci on hegemony

Everything else has been leftcom moralizing mixed with bad history
chomsky sucks, but someone who condemns economic social hierarchies and markets isn't a liberal by definition

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
Chumpsky must pay for the two minute clip of him I get to see wheeled out every four years

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

comedyblissoption posted:

chomsky sucks, but someone who condemns economic social hierarchies and markets isn't a liberal by definition

Chomsky is against markets?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Chumpsky

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Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

i still find it funny gnome chompy co-wrote a book called manufacturing consent and still bases almost all his left critique on the same anti-communist talking points as the mainstream media

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