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MourningView posted:Scottie was pretty cooked by 98, his back was wrecked and he had the foot thing. He hung around for quite awhile (and, good for him, finally made real money) and had some moments but he was never even close to the same player. He got screwed on pay by the Bulls (though he and his agent deserve some blame for agreeing to such a long deal without considering that it might look bad at the end) but they probably let him go at the right time. Pmuch. Pippen on the Blazers wasn't Hakeem on the Raptors level of cringeworthy, but it wasn't pretty.
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MourningView posted:Scottie was pretty cooked by 98, his back was wrecked and he had the foot thing. He hung around for quite awhile (and, good for him, finally made real money) and had some moments but he was never even close to the same player. He got screwed on pay by the Bulls (though he and his agent deserve some blame for agreeing to such a long deal without considering that it might look bad at the end) but they probably let him go at the right time. His agents apparently also advised him not to sign the deal
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in the episode, even Reinsdorf and Krause are telling him that he shouldn't sign it; I know he said he didn't wanna risk injury/not be able to provide for his people; but still even 1 year at 2.75 at that time; would be enough to provide to a lot of people. Especially with him going on and on about knowing his value, his worth. I guess it was just ill-timed with the league revenues/salaries exploding because of him (and that MJ guy) at least he got paid in the end; oof lol that he got another $10mil from Chicago later, forgot about that  In order for the Rockets to create enough salary-cap room to acquire Pippen, Charles Barkley said that he sacrificed greatly as he signed a five-year $67.2 million contract before the previous season.[50] Pippen's salary was $11 million, almost four times as much as his salary the previous season with the Chicago Bulls, $2.775 million.[44] Good ol Chuck  I had high hopes for this documentary based on 30for30 stuff but when I read that Jordan basically had Final Cut; kinda vanished and feels like a puff-piece and Jordan wanting to poo poo all over Krause for 10 hours The doc is also all over the loving place, from the Pippen house, to Jordan in College, to Jordan vs Bird to Pippen being a complete shithead, to Michael's brothers. I can see why it's been sitting in the vault for 20 years Hirez fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Apr 22, 2020 |
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I do not believe a single loving thing that Reinsdorf says, if he really thought Pippen shouldn't take it he could have offered him more or renegotiated it later. The absolute shittiest part of the doc is that Reinsdorf is on there playing the reasonable benevolent owner while letting a dead guy take all the bullets for him being a tight rear end.
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Reinsdorf had said way back before the Sox won the series in 05 that he would trade all of the Bulls championships for one White Sox one. He has never really cared about running a successful Bulls team, just wants it to be profitable. He sucks as much as Krause did, he even admitted in the doc that they thought about blowing up the team after 97. He will always be a cheap rear end with the Bulls, and is overly loyal to his front office people.
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it's crazy looking at the years right after the 95 cap jump; jordan as the 32nd highest paid player in the league behind dudes like danny ferry and sam bowie anyways here's a super crunchy article about what exactly the bulls could have done to not rip off their second best player and stay under the cap: https://earlybirdrights.com/2020/04/20/the-last-dance-scottie-pippen-salary-michael-jordan-chicago-bulls-jerry-krause/ (it probably would've involved pippen taking an extension like with the first 7 year deal and at that point he would've been under contract until 2000 i.e. his age 35 season so in the long run he probably would've lost money but hey there you go)
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Jordan got locked into a similar deal where it was for a fairly long term and very quickly became a huge underpay but they made it up to him for his last two years where he was on one year deals for like $35 million or something and by far the highest paid guy in the league. Also his salary generally was a drop in the bucket compared to his endorsement stuff which was not true of Scottie as evidenced by his most famous ad being about loving a large sandwich
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MourningView posted:The absolute shittiest part of the doc is that Reinsdorf is on there playing the reasonable benevolent owner while letting a dead guy take all the bullets for him being a tight rear end. This is not an issue for me because my brain immediately takes anything Jerry Reinsdorf says and paints it in the most negative light possible. It helps that within the first five minutes of the doc, you have him dithering about whether or not he should break up a team that just won its fifth title in seven years. I imagine they've gotta include the moment of him telling Jordan he'll regret giving him those $30+ million deals, too
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Kim Jong Un interviewed and it would say “Korean basketball fan” https://youtu.be/ZRbp3BbXu40
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I'm cathing the rerun of episosde 1 and lol at MJ's "good wholesome boy who loves with his mom and doesn't do drugs" schtick gambling like a motherfucker is cool tho
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I'm cathing the rerun of episosde 1 and lol at MJ's "good wholesome boy who loves with his mom and doesn't do drugs" schtick gambling is extremely cool imo
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who do you think is the funniest 80s bull to have turned a young jordan onto the gambling lifestyle, my vote is the immortal Dave Corzine
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R.D. Mangles posted:who do you think is the funniest 80s bull to have turned a young jordan onto the gambling lifestyle, my vote is the immortal Dave Corzine https://twitter.com/AtownToby/status/1252746336769802241?s=19
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Oh poo poo, is this a Dennis Rodman-centric episode? I loooooooved watching Rodman play; that scrappy poo poo is how I always played. I knew I couldn't shoot, but I also knew I could come down with more rebounds than anybody and get the ball where it needed to be.
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Rodman was my favorite player back then so I love this poo poo.
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surf rock posted:Oh poo poo, is this a Dennis Rodman-centric episode? I loooooooved watching Rodman play; that scrappy poo poo is how I always played. I knew I couldn't shoot, but I also knew I could come down with more rebounds than anybody and get the ball where it needed to be. Amen. I couldn’t shoot or handle the ball for poo poo but cleaning the boards and locking down people on defense is just as valuable.
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Dango Bango posted:Dennis' nails are on point https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1254571400548868096?s=19
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it's very interesting that both Scottie and Dennis came from similar upbringings and tiny-rear end colleges
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Holy poo poo Rodman breaking down his rebounding is fascinating
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he just fucks everything up, lmao so true
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lol "if you're gonna foul 'em, foul 'em"
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"They acquired the moniker the 'Bad Boys'" is the funniest way I can imagine describing this Detroit team
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lmao the gambling on the bus
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I enjoy how none of piston highlights show them making baskets.
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why does Oakley look like he's getting loose for a bowling tournament
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As a Michigan kid, I loved these Pistons teams, but I have to admit that if it was any other team doing this poo poo I would have loving hated them.
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ah poo poo I forgot this was on tonight, gonna watch it tomorrow morning
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These young Jordan clips very much own.
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BWV posted:These young Jordan clips very much own.
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cleveland great team pick one
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