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CareyB posted:Count me as another who bought this when it was on sale recently... the free weekend confirmed this may in fact rival Shogun 2 which I rinsed completely... but yeah I’ve played about 7-8 campaigns now on the vortex map on hard/hard and I never make it past turn 20. Until I was scaven anyway and remembered I hate playing armies with no morale. - You should be prioritizing the +growth, +income and +public order buildings over everything else to be honest. You want income from every province you can get it, and you need public order ASAP to stabilize provinces so you don't need to babysit with armies. - Your first province is probably going to have some military buildings in it but you really, really don't need to have recruitment buildings everywhere else unless playing as Tomb Kings who up their unit caps from them. - Put the +growth building in literally every single town you can until all the settlement chains are 3+, then delete it and replace with another green line building like more income. - I play on VH so I put a garrison gatehouse in every province as well once I unlock the third building slot because while it's a speedbump to real enemy stacks they will often take 2 turns to siege it vs just rolling over it immediately, giving you more time to respond accordingly. Also some factions are much, much worse in siege battles than in field battles so you can use those garrisons to shut big armies down. This is very true for any stack that rolls up chariot or horse heavy; they'll just stand around getting murdered by towers until a gate is down, then they funnel into a tiny opening. Mazz fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Apr 27, 2020 |
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Apr 27, 2020 22:11
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If you're new play on Normal/Normal. Higher battle difficulty will lead you towards ranged stacks because you can't expect your infantry to function and the AI gets loads of cheats on campaign difficulty to balance out their limited AI once you know how to game it. Ranged stacks are a fine way to play but I think you're missing out if you don't choose to do it but rather have to abuse how the AI isn't terribly good at rushing gunlines. Playing on Very Hard/Normal is challenge enough, Very Hard campaign difficulty means the AI has +20 public order, -80% upkeep, etc. It can be a very grim, unreasonable slog if you don't game it, I always make a few cheaty diplomacy pals on VH so they can generate 3 armies from one province on my flanks for our mutual enemies. The +15% upkeep on high difficulty is killer too and basically forces you to learn to get heroic results out of every army like back to back out-fighting two full stacks in 1-2 turns.
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Apr 27, 2020 22:25
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Sombrerotron posted:So I bought the Warhammers last week because they were on budget and hey why not. Not sure if I'm actually going to play the first game (I just decided to pick it up because of the Mortal Empires campaign, really), although I'm happy to hear any recommendations! Anyway, Warhammer II generally seems cool and I've been enjoying my lizardmen campaign a lot for various reasons. No doubt this has been commented upon many times already here, but being Dutch my lizardmen's punny hero/lord names keep making me laugh. Anyone know the story behind them? Were they the work of a single subversive element within CA or a team decision? This is pure guesswork but: Ever since the Lizardmen became more than a distant background part of Warhammer a significant number of the names have been dumb English puns and references (the sample army in what I think was the very first Lizardman army book was the Rezephua Frogs, the city of Itza-Bitza and the skink Tehenauini (since slightly renamed) were a reference to an obnoxious novelty song from a few years earlier, the Legendary Lord mounts Grimloq, Zlaaq, and Zwoop were references to kids transformers that transformed into dinosaurs. All this had the effect of making the Lizardman language sound like a garbled version of English. Having every name of a lizardman as a bad pun or reference in English would be ridiculous, but they wanted to keep the Lizardman language as consistently sounding like a language which when mangled sounds like mangled English so they could keep doing this with every third or fourth name. So what do you call the rest of your Lizardmen that you dont't want to actually be English? It's possible to make up gibberish that sounds right but that takes significant skill. It's easier, more reliable, and a lot more fun to get your words sounding like garbled versions of English without actually being garbled versions of English (so the puns are rare enough to be fun) by making them garbled versions of one of the other two popular French/German hybrid languages - Belgian or Dutch. Most of your English fans won't notice the Belgian and Dutch references and puns, and most of the people who do notice will enjoy it.
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Apr 27, 2020 22:41
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Awesome, thanks everyone that helps a lot. It’s more about building a complete province then, not worrying about what buildings go where, aside the obvious. Yeah I’m reluctant to turn the difficulty down cos as soon as I crack it I’ll likely steam roller it. I can ignore the ai bonuses as long as it doesn’t make stupid decisions in front of me too often, but yeah even stuff that youd think should feel op in battle just gets you through by the skin of your teeth and it feels when the two clumps come together even when you win you’re whittled down massively. Just a bit gutting when you think wtf could I have done better. All said the various mechanics and unique units, with the decent lore of wh make this a really interesting game to get stuck into even for someone who’s never been into fantasy.
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Apr 27, 2020 22:47
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CareyB posted:Awesome, thanks everyone that helps a lot. It’s more about building a complete province then, not worrying about what buildings go where, aside the obvious. If you need to juke out or lure out AI armies, use Ambush stance, especially if they do not have any agents nearby.
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Apr 27, 2020 23:31
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Anyone got some quick tips for playing Cylostra Direfin?
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Apr 27, 2020 23:43
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Help skeggi take out mazda early before they can do that bullshit primeval right and roll over you with a stack of carnosaurs. Or just leave your starting province and just sack/raid until you can take on ulthuan.
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Apr 27, 2020 23:49
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So do I just ignore the pirate cove mechanics or what
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Apr 27, 2020 23:55
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Gort posted:So do I just ignore the pirate cove mechanics or what No but when I was playing Harkon, I really didn't worry about coves until I'd teched up into the mid game and could afford to drop the 10K it costs to build them with a hero. I don't see the point of filling Lustria with coves when you're going to have to kill the owners at some point anyway just to survive. Cease to Hope fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Apr 28, 2020 |
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Apr 28, 2020 00:00
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Pirate coves should be what you do after you sack a settlement. Agents making coves tend to be on the expensive side imo.
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Apr 28, 2020 00:37
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Gort posted:Anyone got some quick tips for playing Cylostra Direfin? Note that should Sack, then Establish Cove. Outright establishing the cove counts as sacking it so if you decide to sack it again the next turn you got no money on the first sack because you established a cove, then you get no money on the second sacking because the game things you sacked it once already the prior turn.
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Apr 28, 2020 00:39
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Sending off your pirate captains to the richest port cities to build the steal 50% income building is super good, I don't usually build coves anywhere else unless I know I won't be conquering in that direction for a long time. For all vampirates get a mortar building as fast as humanly possible, it enables Cylostra for instance to immediately take over ulthuan even on legendary before Helves can get any of their annoying monsters/late game stuff. Archers/Spearmen/Sea Guard get shredded by mortars.
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Apr 28, 2020 01:59
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Everything that gets stuck in melee with deckhands gets shredded by mortars. Also deckhands but who cares about them
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Apr 28, 2020 02:16
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Yeah the one real lesson of Vampirates is embrace the gunpowder. You can throw some giant crabs or walking ships in the mix but mortars and handgunners will carry you everywhere you need to go. And the occasional queen bess.
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Apr 28, 2020 04:09
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Gort posted:Anyone got some quick tips for playing Cylostra Direfin? Extreme aggression very early on against Hexoatl and Skeggi. If you can wipe them both out within 10-12 turns, you are loving set. This is totally viable, too. Raise dead, summons, your ghost paladin buddy - you can put some serious early game pressure that the others cannot resist. If either one lives beyond that time frame, you're going to spend your days fighting an endless hellwar that will only end when the next hellwar starts.
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Apr 28, 2020 04:13
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Mazz posted:Yeah the one real lesson of Vampirates is embrace the gunpowder. You can throw some giant crabs or walking ships in the mix but mortars and handgunners will carry you everywhere you need to go. And the occasional queen bess. Walking ships are also walking cannon. The knockdown melee is just a nice extra, so far as I can tell.
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Apr 28, 2020 04:34
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Sombrerotron posted:It's "kattenbak" in Dutch. So far, I've also seen Cho'qomel (a chocolate milk drink), Qop'eraf ("kop eraf", which may be translated as "off with their head"), Onzinna'am ("onzinnaam", literally "nonsensical name"), and Besstel'bus ("bestelbus", i.e. "delivery van"). Oh yeah, and Dikkie Dik is a beloved cat that many a Dutch child grew up with.
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Apr 28, 2020 04:36
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Cease to Hope posted:Walking ships are also walking cannon. The knockdown melee is just a nice extra, so far as I can tell. They are actually stronger in melee than from far away because they fire on the move and continue shooting in melee. They're fast enough to run down most infantry units too, including most archers. Nothing like playing Noctilus and just Ent walking into the enemy every battle. Works really well except for when it doesn't.
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Apr 28, 2020 04:59
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Mazz posted:They are actually stronger in melee than from far away because they fire on the move and continue shooting in melee. They're fast enough to run down most infantry units too, including most archers. Nothing like playing Noctilus and just Ent walking into the enemy every battle. Works really well except for when it doesn't. Yeah, but they dig grooves through formations with cannonball shots when you fire from a greater distance and get a flatter angle.
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Apr 28, 2020 05:18
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I'm not sure why, but generally after I take over my first continent I kinda lose interest in a playthrough. So I abandoned Settra, although I may pick it up later, and jumped back to Karl Franz who I haven't played since I first got the game. There aren't many RTS games I've played with this many forces that somehow all feel unique from each other. I also tried Chaos again but christ they are boring
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Apr 28, 2020 10:44
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It might not be as out and out effective as a Necrofex doomstack but my favourite Vampirate composition is: Lord Mage 6x Promethean riders 4x Hanguns 2x Deck Gunner 2x Mortar 1x Queen Bess 3x Necrofex Colossus No tactics, just a just mass of gunpowder smoke and smelly crabs
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Apr 28, 2020 11:43
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I don't understand how to play early Khalida...I can't even hold two settlements. My starting city gets rebellion since there's a bazillion -PO, and if I go over to defend it the rear end in a top hat vampire just retakes his city. I don't have good enough ambush chance to catch him and even with Route Marcher Khalida isn't faster than him so he never stops in range for me to actually attack his army. Do I just have to camp at literally 1 settlement!?
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Apr 28, 2020 14:16
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Hello, i still exist, and yes, i still make mods! Today i worked quite a bit on Dawi, so here are some changes to my mod Khazukan Kazakit Ha: First up, its been a long petpeeve of mine that Bretonnians get walls on their minor settlements but not Dwarfs, you know the defense obsessed folk. So i added that:  This works with Mazz's minor T4 cities as well, but will also work fine without it, as you can see i use that mod. I also added some new effects to the techs:  And finally, and this has been on my to do list for quite a while, i added Offensive Runes to Runelords and Runesmiths:   I based them on already existing spells tied to items, all of which i think works as part of the lore of Rune Magic:  The mod is updated, and is available here for anyone interested: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1186300060
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Apr 28, 2020 14:19
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dwarven forges, surely speaking of mods, actually, i don't really know where to start re: modding. is it literally just browsing the workshop to see what's good?
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Apr 28, 2020 14:40
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Warhams dwarfs are quite strict about the f, rather than the v.
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Apr 28, 2020 14:48
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:dwarven forges, surely The mods for this game fall into two categories: -Overhaul that freshens things up for the addicts -Small mod to remove annoyances The popular overhauls and Grimhammer and Lucky's Overhaul. As far as small mods go, it's purely up to individual taste. I like to use Tier 4 minor settlements (because it makes late-game province management a little easier), Rebanner (to make banners consistently worth using), and this particular skill point mod, which eventually increases the skill points characters earn per level. They're all a bit cheaty, but the AI also benefits so whatever.
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Krazyface posted:The mods for this game fall into two categories: FWIW I make tier 4 minor settlements, and Wallets is also a goon who is behind Rebanner and Drink It, two extremely good QoL mods. Now that I’m playing this again I probably need to make another pass at the T4 garrisons to make sure they make sense but I’ll likely wait to the next DLC Mazz fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Apr 28, 2020 |
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Apr 28, 2020 15:04
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The best QoL mod that everyone new to the game should begin using immediately is the thing that saves camera settings between campaigns. You're going to be restarting a bunch to check out each cool legendary lord warham man, so take the second to install it so you don't have to fiddle with settings every game.
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fargom posted:The best QoL mod that everyone new to the game should begin using immediately is the thing that saves camera settings between campaigns. You're going to be restarting a bunch to check out each cool legendary lord warham man, so take the second to install it so you don't have to fiddle with settings every game. this weirds me out still that they don't have some sort of default option in game
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Apr 28, 2020 16:07
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Are lizardmen wizards actually really good or is their superiority a flavor text thing that's not reflected in game potency? Also I have an odd problem. I am playing Ham 2 via family share functionality on Steam. I have access to all my pal's paid DLC as I borrow the game from him. Tomb Kings, The Noun and The Noun, so forth. However, none of the free-LC is active. When I attempt to claim free content like Repanse, I get to the Steam Store page, click the green download button, and then get asked if I have Steam installed. Clicking the "yes" box does absolutely nothing. Can anyone advise me how to get free LLs working on a game that is accessed via Steam Family Share?
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Apr 28, 2020 17:03
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SuperKlaus posted:Are lizardmen wizards actually really good or is their superiority a flavor text thing that's not reflected in game potency? Slann's starting traits give them huge Winds of Magic pools and regen, they come with some bound spells iirc, and there are some Lizardmen buildings to give them a bunch of freebie levels on recruitment. So yeah they're pretty great wizards. Blooming Brilliant fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Apr 28, 2020 |
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Apr 28, 2020 17:09
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In terms of heroes they also have access to the beefiest mages after a certain level as you can just mount them all on dinosaurs.
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Apr 28, 2020 17:11
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Hunt11 posted:In terms of heroes they also have access to the beefiest mages after a certain level as you can just mount them all on dinosaurs. This. Skinks on ancient stegadons will make up the bulk of your lategame army.
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Apr 28, 2020 17:54
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If you paint the map and build star chambers in each province you can recruit level 30+ slaan. They get beefier resistances via skills than the average mage and are slightly less embarrassing melee combatants before dinos. They're also access to four lores you wouldn't otherwise get free crack at. And finally, Big Mundi and Kroak get nukes, Mundi's being cooldown based instead of winds cost. Mundi's Dwarf Era Ender can destroy squads whole if you get 2-3 of the quake lines to pass through them.
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Apr 28, 2020 19:11
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SuperKlaus posted:Also I have an odd problem. I am playing Ham 2 via family share functionality on Steam. I have access to all my pal's paid DLC as I borrow the game from him. Tomb Kings, The Noun and The Noun, so forth. However, none of the free-LC is active. When I attempt to claim free content like Repanse, I get to the Steam Store page, click the green download button, and then get asked if I have Steam installed. Clicking the "yes" box does absolutely nothing. I hada similar problem, where it did not install the free DLCs at all. What worked for me is to click download in steam, which started the game launcher. If you then close the launcher, it installs the DLC without giving a message that its done at some point. You can check the DLC storepage on steam again and it should tell you that it's already installed once it is ready.
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Apr 28, 2020 19:44
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Doomykins posted:If you paint the map and build star chambers in each province you can recruit level 30+ slaan. They get beefier resistances via skills than the average mage and are slightly less embarrassing melee combatants before dinos. They're also access to four lores you wouldn't otherwise get free crack at. And finally, Big Mundi and Kroak get nukes, Mundi's being cooldown based instead of winds cost. Mundi's Dwarf Era Ender can destroy squads whole if you get 2-3 of the quake lines to pass through them. My favorite part of my last lizard campaign. Getting new lords that already have upkeep reduction, all the best spells and skills and immortality from a short ritual cooldown timer is amazing. Don't sleep on Mazda's star chamber discount.
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Apr 28, 2020 19:45
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This might be a naive question, but is there something blatant I have missed regarding moving armies around on the world map during a campaign? I've mainly played this game with custom battles against my brother and recently decided to actually play a campaign as the dwarves (Warhammer 1, not 2). I'm finding it really frustrating to chase orc armies around for 10+ turns into their lands and then trudging back. My empire is so long and thin, North to South that I can't conceive of trudging my army north to confront Chaos. I figured there might be some method to "teleport" my armies between garrison cities, but other than the underground march (a variant on the forced march options?) I'm not seeing it. The pacing and mechanics of the grand strategy are not what expected after hours of the battle mode in multiplayer. Particularly the diplomatic systems, where it seems impossible to get anything out of my neighbours, be it gold or alliances.
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Also if you are brand new to the game, it's best to just build walls in every single city. You lose out on economy but it will really dissuade enemy raiding parties from trying to attack your unprotected cities. If morale is something you are having an issue with, play Tomb Kings or Vampirates, the old world undead are difficult to learn with because they have to ranged weapons which puts them at a severe disadvantage against a lot of armies. Also sieges are tough without much in the way of artillery. If you just have the base game and none of the expansions or Old World armies, then it's best to start out with High Elves or Lizardmen since Dark Elves have the super annoying slave mechanic which, while being very strong once you master it, is super hard to deal with as a brand new player and Skaven have 0 morale pretty much across the board and also have an annoying mechanic (food) to deal with. High Elves are probably the most straight forward and the easiest to get going early on and Lizardmen are a bit harder to start with but once you hit midgame and have doomstacks of stegadons they are easily the most powerful army out there and also the easiest to use. mitochondritom posted:This might be a naive question, but is there something blatant I have missed regarding moving armies around on the world map during a campaign? The only way you can chase down opposing armies is to either have more campaign movement than them (if your lord has a +campaign movement option, take it immediately, if they have multiple, take them all as soon as you can) or to send armies to try and cut them off. Sometimes you just have to let them go if you can't out-march them.
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Stacking + campaign movement is a very good idea IMO, take all the campaign movement buffs you can get, followers, skills, techs, buildings etc, all of it. The dwarfen empire is awkward though yeah cos the mountains are one long noodle and full of awkward passes and stuff. Generally I suggest fortifying the crap out of karak ungor and karak kadrin and holding there while the empire fight the chaos armies, only helping out if you need to. The northern mountains have major cities squatting on their outer extremities which also control the passes further in, so they're very good for defending. I'm currently trying to defend kislev and conquer the southern mountains as Gelt and gently caress me I'm fighting infinite goddamn skaven and orcs while the chaos assholes rain in from the northeast. Do not recommend unless you're a masochist. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Apr 28, 2020 |
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