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T-man posted:Don't loving tell me to be nice to the worst posters on the forums. I mean you don’t have to be nice to anyone. I’m sorry I made you angry.
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T-man posted:Maybe having my political position and beliefs attacked constantly itt from the outset has something to do with it you disingenuous twit. The sheer amount of insular circlejerking cspam has slowly morphed into, where you not only need to be a leftist but also excuse historical genocide and have a constant, cloying half joking blackpill irony thing going on sucks and this thread might be the purest proof thereof. i don't mind talking with anarchists because they can be interesting, but you specifically are a really bad poster independent of your politics and opinions. you make threads bad wherever you post, please go away.
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GalacticAcid posted:T-man, i command you to be nice to the worst posters on the forums. Self care is critical You cannot neg me into liking you
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Apr 28, 2020 22:59
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I guess a T is a kind of two axis graph
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Apr 28, 2020 23:07
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I think everyone ITT is p. cool 
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mila kunis posted:i don't mind talking with anarchists because they can be interesting, but you specifically are a really bad poster independent of your politics and opinions. you make threads bad wherever you post, please go away. You're the person who got into ultra brain combat with a poo poo post on the last page, I'd ask whose rereg you are if you weren't such a forgettable poster.
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i talked a bit about this before but i'm increasingly convinced that the theory of what a state is, and whether a state can be said to be an entity in itself with its own interests and agency, is THE central political-theoretic disagreement between communists on one hand and anarchists and other liberals on the other. the idea that you can somehow dial a state's administrative power up and down independently of how you distribute power between the proletariat/peasantry and the bourgeoisie would be flatly ridiculous to lenin but is the fundamental underpinning of "yeah, i'm fiscally conservative... but get this. i'm socially quite liberal!" thought
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Apr 28, 2020 23:29
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T-man posted:Don't loving tell me to be nice to the worst posters on the forums. turn on your monitor
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T-man posted:Maybe having my political position and beliefs attacked constantly itt from the outset has something to do with it you disingenuous twit. The sheer amount of insular circlejerking cspam has slowly morphed into, where you not only need to be a leftist but also excuse historical genocide and have a constant, cloying half joking blackpill irony thing going on sucks and this thread might be the purest proof thereof. the USSR was a force for liberation and it's destruction was a disaster for all working and oppressed people across the globe THS posted:there is a single up and down axis of political thought, labelled “good” at the top and “bad” at the bottom. and folks, i am a top so is capital a top, and labor a bottom? wait, are you a class enemy?
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T-man posted:Would it make sense to have a tendencies fighting thunder dome? Because otherwise it tends to leak in otherwise good threads. lol
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There's a bunch of Pasolini films streaming on Criterion that I didn't know existed before three days ago. The two I've watched so far are beautiful films with a lot of swagger and are hilarious and brutal
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belgend posted:like dimitrov and wang ming made a lot of mistakes trying to butt in with the chinese class struggle but the united front strategy isn't one of them sorry from quoting from wayback but not been reading this for a while. the united front was a mistake imo specifically because it was a united front with the nationalists of the kuomintang. its also fair imo to criticize the comintern because they doubled down on the mistake once it had been revealed to be a mistake. they insisted and pushed for unity with the kuomintang under chiang and then once he purged them and massacred the workers in the south, they continued to pursue a policy of unity with the split which emerged under wang jingwei in wuhan and changsha, again only for the left-kuomintang to purge the communists and attack the peasants within a year.
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Squizzle posted:in case you dont look at the stickies you might wanna look at this one because we are actively soliciting feedback wrt cspam: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3921561 My feedback wrt CSPAM: it's good
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$240.
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right into lowtax's greedy pockets
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Raskolnikov38 posted:how was japan even part of it, you can’t draw a straight line through Berlin, Rome, AND Tokyo maybe a great circle route?
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https://twitter.com/Hereticalmist/status/1254932170663026688?s=19
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Maoism was invented by the FBI
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GalacticAcid posted:actually....it is you that appears to lack reading comprehension anarkiddy cannot read surprise
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THS posted:there is a single up and down axis of political thought, labelled “good” at the top and “bad” at the bottom. and folks, i am a top im gay
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Political Compass doesn't just inadvertently validate libertarian ideology, it was created by a libertarian specifically to disseminate it.
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T-man posted:Maybe having my political position and beliefs attacked constantly itt from the outset has something to do with it you disingenuous twit. The sheer amount of insular circlejerking cspam has slowly morphed into, where you not only need to be a leftist but also excuse historical genocide and have a constant, cloying half joking blackpill irony thing going on sucks and this thread might be the purest proof thereof. nice meltdown nerd
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T-man posted:Maybe having my political position and beliefs attacked constantly itt from the outset has something to do with it you disingenuous twit. The sheer amount of insular circlejerking cspam has slowly morphed into, where you not only need to be a leftist but also excuse historical genocide and have a constant, cloying half joking blackpill irony thing going on sucks and this thread might be the purest proof thereof. 
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the only correct thing about that post is the "weird ironic blackpill" thing which is truly annoying everyone would be ebtter off if they stopped 'ironically' adopting every single alt-right verbal tic. using cuck was a slippery slope it turns out
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the great cspam ironoclasm
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Homeless Friend posted:the great cspam ironoclasm
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Being blackpilled about the West at this point is just accepting reality as it is.
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Varinn posted:the only correct thing about that post is the "weird ironic blackpill" thing which is truly annoying i'd be careful, that sounds like something a simp would say
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Ferrinus posted:i talked a bit about this before but i'm increasingly convinced that the theory of what a state is, and whether a state can be said to be an entity in itself with its own interests and agency, is THE central political-theoretic disagreement between communists on one hand and anarchists and other liberals on the other. the idea that you can somehow dial a state's administrative power up and down independently of how you distribute power between the proletariat/peasantry and the bourgeoisie would be flatly ridiculous to lenin but is the fundamental underpinning of "yeah, i'm fiscally conservative... but get this. i'm socially quite liberal!" thought Apparently state theory is making a come back in Marxist intellectual circles, so you might be on to something. Don’t ask me anything about it though, I’m still trying to understand the transition question, so I’m like twenty years behind the world at this point.
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Ardennes posted:Being blackpilled about the West at this point is just accepting reality as it is. actually its an extremely stupid concept that implies a divide between people who "get it" and people who dont, which is classic channer horseshit. ah, im enlightened to how bad things are, not like those fakers. we all live in dogshit and we all know how bad it is
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Autism Sneaks posted:i'd be careful, that sounds like something a simp would say A simp is like a replyguy.
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we all like to make fun of how the right cant actually make good jokes, but then a lot of people just casually adopt all of their slang
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Varinn posted:actually its an extremely stupid concept that implies a divide between people who "get it" and people who dont, which is classic channer horseshit. ah, im enlightened to how bad things are, not like those fakers. we all live in dogshit and we all know how bad it is Isn't that basically any and every political opinion ever?
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T-man posted:Yeah again, I'm sorry the notion of two dimensions is too hard for cspam. These are some of the stupidest takes ive seen on the internet, so gj I guess good luck with the People's Bootlicking Brigrade. it's a pretty simplistic framework with limited value op
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Ardennes posted:Isn't that basically any and every political opinion ever? no, because its implying that "an understanding of how bad things are" is somehow some sort of veil that has to be lifted from your eyes from an Awakening. the secret is that people of every political persuasion who are poor all know how bad things are, and have known it since the boot started crushing them. the idea that you could be "blackpilled" is something invented by people who already lived comfortable lives having to experience some of that boot for the first time, and going "wow no ones noticed this before"
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Varinn posted:no, because its implying that "an understanding of how bad things are" is somehow some sort of veil that has to be lifted from your eyes from an Awakening. The point isn't that just things are bad, but there is actually something intrinsically wrong with the US at its heart. I don't think nationalism in the US is actually only a middle-class phenomenon from experience. It isn't a class question, it is an ideological one. There are working-class people, especially if they ever served in the US military, that believe everything is right with the US (besides x or y group "ruining it.") If you don't want to use the word "pill" fine w/e. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Apr 29, 2020 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRXvQuE9xO4 There was this recent video about Marx's views on "statism". The main take-aways I got from it was: * The popular conception of "socialism" as this thing where political and economic power is centered on a state, as controlled by the workers, that will undergo the changes needed to transition into communism (which is state-less), is not actually that. Marx considered socialism and communism as interchangeable terms, ergo socialism was already supposed to be the class-less, state-less thing, and instead what we think of as "socialism" is actually the "period of transition". * Further, the programme that Marx laid out in the Communist Manifesto: quote:1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. isn't supposed to BE communism (perhaps this is more obvious than the prior point?), but rather is just the first steps of the "period of transition", as a means of reconfiguring political and economic power such that the workers can retain power, can establish the dictatorship of the proletariat, on the path to communism. * Insofar as Lenin shared Marx's views on this, and insofar as the USSR never achieved communism (nor did they achieve socialism, per it being synonymous with communism), they still called themselves socialist/communist regardless, as a declaration of principles and as a way of explicitly distinguishing themselves from the rest of the capitalist nations, even if they arguably only ever... languished in the period of transition.
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Ardennes posted:The point isn't that just things are bad, but there is actually something intrinsically wrong with the US at its heart. I don't think nationalism in the US is actually only a middle-class phenomenon from experience. It isn't a class question, it is an ideological one. There are working-class people, especially if they ever served in the US military, that believe everything is right with the US (besides x or y group "ruining it.") actually realizing there is something intrinsically wrong with the US at its heart is called becoming a communist
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