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What if they made a 3 mana teferi companion planeswalker but your deck can not have any creatures? that sounds like it would be cool
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Apr 28, 2020 20:10
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Owlbear Camus posted:Only in black border! Trash Hauler: All the cards in your deck must be moderately played, or worse, condition
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Apr 28, 2020 20:23
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i don't really get the comparison to hs hero powers. every deck has access to a hero power, and cards/formats are specifically curated with them in mind. companions in eternal formats are not similar at all. some decks have access to companions and others don't, and the distinction is done along completely arbitrary lines
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Apr 28, 2020 20:24
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They could go really hog wild and do game restrictions, stuff like: You can not deal damage, or things like that to make everyone miserable. In the current version of companions you could do: no cards in your deck can deal damage or have a power greater than 0 Or even the opposite, every non creature spell in your deck must deal damage
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Apr 28, 2020 20:27
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Companion Lotus - Every card in your deck must be on the reserve list. There, that'll fix vintage.
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Apr 28, 2020 20:30
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Elvis_Maximus posted:They could go really hog wild and do game restrictions, stuff like: The companions we have are very specifically broader than this, because building companions with stronger payoffs who have higher restrictions will inevitably lead to overturned decks. This is the problem we saw with the big Brawl commanders like Chulane or Yarok. Their payoffs are so generically good that you get absurd value for almost no adjustment of your play style. Play Design have such boring ideas, they’d give us a companion like “every card in your starting deck must have cycling” 1/4 Flying Lifelink Whenever you cycle a card, draw a card and stand there, mouths agape, as it becomes the best deck in Modern or somewhat, exactly like with Hogaak.
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Apr 28, 2020 20:38
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I don't like the idea of companions because outside of digital spaces, it's on you to make sure that your opponent is following the deck restrictions on it. It's not very hard to verify morph creatures after the game is over, but it's another thing to verify that someone's maindeck is in compliance, and you're going to miss one eventually.
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Apr 28, 2020 20:39
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Do you also count all the cards that someone plays to make sure they're never playing a 5th Lightning Bolt?
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Apr 28, 2020 20:42
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Star Man posted:I don't like the idea of companions because outside of digital spaces, it's on you to make sure that your opponent is following the deck restrictions on it. It's not very hard to verify morph creatures after the game is over, but it's another thing to verify that someone's maindeck is in compliance, and you're going to miss one eventually. It's a non-issue because you're worried about someone "cheating" by putting a card in their deck that says "When this card is played or revealed, even accidentally, you lose the game". Of all the mechanics in Magic added in the past few years, this is the one that's closest to cheat-proof. Edit: That too ^^^. People have been cheating deckbuilding restrictions since deckbuilding restrictions existed, that's why there are two separate categories of decklist errors in the infraction guidelines. It's much more likely someone will play a fifth copy of a card or have extra cards in their deckbox they could sideboard in than putting instant "I lose" cards in their deck. LifeLynx fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Apr 28, 2020 |
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Apr 28, 2020 20:43
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Star Man posted:I don't like the idea of companions because outside of digital spaces, it's on you to make sure that your opponent is following the deck restrictions on it. It's not very hard to verify morph creatures after the game is over, but it's another thing to verify that someone's maindeck is in compliance, and you're going to miss one eventually. Found the person that counts your library at the prerelease. Probably pile shuffles it too.
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Apr 28, 2020 20:50
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LifeLynx posted:It's a non-issue because you're worried about someone "cheating" by putting a card in their deck that says "When this card is played or revealed, even accidentally, you lose the game". Of all the mechanics in Magic added in the past few years, this is the one that's closest to cheat-proof. i wonder if this is true in more casual environments, where cheaters can get away with more blatant cheating as newcomers are overwhlemed with just keeping track of their own poo poo.
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Apr 28, 2020 20:51
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Bust Rodd posted:Play Design have such boring ideas, they’d give us a companion like “every card in your starting deck must have cycling” Is this something that happened or just fanfic?
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Apr 28, 2020 20:52
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PleasantDirge posted:Is that poorly named Godzilla card only in the ikoria pre release kits or is it in boosters for their first print run? My LGS has a poo poo ton on the kits and I want to throw them some cash for some scratchy lottery wizard tickets if they have a chance of containing a whole debacle in them The excellently named Godzilla card has already been printed to poo poo for months, there's gonna be a ton when Wizards decides to start selling cards again.
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Apr 28, 2020 20:59
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odiv posted:Is this something that happened or just fanfic? I’m saying that’s why we can’t have more companions with narrower restrictions, they would all end up being on the Korvold, Chulane, Yarok power level of just “trigger a normal game action, draw a card” that dominates all of 2019’s design.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:02
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Elvis_Maximus posted:In the current version of companions you could do: no cards in your deck can deal damage or have a power greater than 0 I play tokens, make this B or W and I'm all over this. I'd lose 1 copy of Kaya, Orzhov usurper, 4 auriok champions and a burrenton forge tender out of the side, opening space to bring in more ashiok dream render, torpor orb and kaya's guiles. Knowing wizards it would be R/G, which would keep it from being op I guess.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:08
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4 mana DecentWalker Companion - for the duration of any game which began with this card as your companion, you may not cast creature spells or control creatures.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:09
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Rinkles posted:i wonder if this is true in more casual environments, where cheaters can get away with more blatant cheating as newcomers are overwhlemed with just keeping track of their own poo poo. In the middle of a game that was going close to an hour long, my friend Ryan snuck his own copy of Samite Healer into my other friend Blair's deck. When Blair drew and played the 5th one Ryan said Blair had an illegal deck and he "lost" on the spot. Ryan didn't tell us he did this until days later, Blair kept the card. I was happy because I won. Blair was happy because he got a free Samite Healer. Ryan was happy because that game finally ended and we could play Street Fighter instead.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:09
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I had a friend that always had a counterspell in hand during lunch break.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:14
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Watching the vein on Mark Rosewater's neck while he just loving screams all the drat time talking to The Prof Mark, chill out, generally
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Apr 28, 2020 21:39
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:4 mana DecentWalker What happens if the UW player (or is it dimir mill?) activates a celestial in this case?
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Apr 28, 2020 21:43
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Bust Rodd posted:I’m saying that’s why we can’t have more companions with narrower restrictions, they would all end up being on the Korvold, Chulane, Yarok power level of just “trigger a normal game action, draw a card” that dominates all of 2019’s design. This is slightly better than 2012-2019’s endless parade of mechanics that put a plus one plus one counter on something, for some reason
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Apr 28, 2020 22:55
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i mean, the last threeish years have been the worst run of awful standards that we have basically ever seen
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Apr 28, 2020 23:09
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I haven't seen a dominance of the companion mechanic. Almost nobody plays with them and I've beaten them quite a few times due to the (known) restrictions they place on the deck. If anything ruins the game it's meme recursion decks that take an hour of staring at the screen at an infinite stack because gently caress that guy, he can go through the whole process.
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Apr 28, 2020 23:20
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meanolmrcloud posted:This is slightly better than 2012-2019’s endless parade of mechanics that put a plus one plus one counter on something, for some reason I almost put that out of my mind, thanks. It's so crazy that was the best thing they could think of for new mechanics for close to a decade.
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Apr 28, 2020 23:23
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Nolgthorn posted:I haven't seen a dominance of the companion mechanic. Almost nobody plays with them and I've beaten them quite a few times due to the (known) restrictions they place on the deck. If anything ruins the game it's meme recursion decks that take an hour of staring at the screen at an infinite stack because gently caress that guy, he can go through the whole process. uh what companion is literally all over the place, in every single format. i dont understand how you could miss it.
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Apr 28, 2020 23:23
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Nolgthorn posted:I haven't seen a dominance of the companion mechanic. Almost nobody plays with them and I've beaten them quite a few times due to the (known) restrictions they place on the deck. If anything ruins the game it's meme recursion decks that take an hour of staring at the screen at an infinite stack because gently caress that guy, he can go through the whole process. if you press escape or click the gear in the corner you can concede
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Apr 28, 2020 23:24
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Sampatrick posted:uh what he means arena bo1
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Apr 28, 2020 23:47
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ilmucche posted:What happens if the UW player (or is it dimir mill?) activates a celestial in this case? The ability fizzles. Were also making Fizzle a keyword
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Apr 28, 2020 23:48
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:The ability fizzles. If you can't control a creature that's ETBing I think your opponent gets control of it flavor-wise
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Apr 28, 2020 23:59
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Gyruda is mostly gone now in Standard so the rest of the companions are less "the inevitable potential game winning play happens on this turn" and more either a curve filler or a combo piece.
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Apr 29, 2020 00:05
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neaden posted:IIRC rosewater has said new Companions are unlikely as they don't think there are more deck restrictions they could use. "The same deck restrictions, but different creatures and colours". Boom, twenty more. There's no reason only UW blink decks would run 80 cards, just print that text again.
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Apr 29, 2020 00:23
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Lone Goat posted:if you press escape or click the gear in the corner you can concede I know.....
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Apr 29, 2020 00:24
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Until Lurrus is physically shipped, we cannot confirm or deny that it is actually a Beyblade. So that's the power of darkness Tsubasa foguht with for his entire screen time.
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Apr 29, 2020 00:42
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meanolmrcloud posted:This is slightly better than 2012-2019’s endless parade of mechanics that put a plus one plus one counter on something, for some reason
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Apr 29, 2020 01:13
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So who are we shipping Lurrus with? Garruk?
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Apr 29, 2020 01:17
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mossyfisk posted:"The same deck restrictions, but different creatures and colours". I don't think making Yorion RB would change much and I'm pretty sure it's been brewed in every colour combo under the sun that touches U or W.
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Apr 29, 2020 01:17
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kalvanoo posted:he means arena bo1 yes also all over the place there
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Apr 29, 2020 01:36
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Eej posted:I don't think making Yorion RB would change much and I'm pretty sure it's been brewed in every colour combo under the sun that touches U or W. It's kind of implied that you'd give it different stats and a different ETB effect, rather than making exactly the same card but colourshifted.
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Apr 29, 2020 01:42
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I'd much rather see them ban any companions that dominate the meta rather than shotgun printing them until every deck has one.
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can't wait for War of the Friend where there's companinos all the way down to uncommon
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