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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


Martytoof posted:

I’m still not seeing the down side here :haw:

YOU’RE NOT GETTING IT I’M DESCRIBING MY DREAM LIFE.

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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
Started reassembly on the Model C Ner-a-Car and spent 6 hours on step 1: install rear wheel. Because it turns out the wheel + brakes don't really fit the rear frame (bent frame?) and required fabrication of spacers instead of just washers to go on axle because the brake hubs also bolt to the rear frame and you can't just put washers behind those bolts because it's almost impossible to reach in there with anything to align them when reinstalling. And THEN found out the axle was 0.050" out of true and had to invent a way to straighten a very thin hollow axle without flattening it. Eventually got it down to 0.010" out and decided that was close enough for British work. I guess that explains why the previous rebuilder had installed pivoting dual row ball bearings in the wheel which made no sense at the time. Didn't have much difficulty getting the gearbox and front end on though. But then had to stop because the bodywork needs painting and the bodywork is basically a load bearing member for everything else that gets installed.

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Started reassembly on the Model C Ner-a-Car and spent 6 hours on step 1: install rear wheel. Because it turns out the wheel + brakes don't really fit the rear frame (bent frame?) and required fabrication of spacers instead of just washers to go on axle because the brake hubs also bolt to the rear frame and you can't just put washers behind those bolts because it's almost impossible to reach in there with anything to align them when reinstalling. And THEN found out the axle was 0.050" out of true and had to invent a way to straighten a very thin hollow axle without flattening it. Eventually got it down to 0.010" out and decided that was close enough for British work. I guess that explains why the previous rebuilder had installed pivoting dual row ball bearings in the wheel which made no sense at the time. Didn't have much difficulty getting the gearbox and front end on though. But then had to stop because the bodywork needs painting and the bodywork is basically a load bearing member for everything else that gets installed.



Heroic.

titanium
Mar 11, 2004

NONE SHALL PASS!
Finally got my TW200 back in action. All these carb symptoms I was trouble shooting and then I sucked it up and bought a $200 CDI made by some dude in Iowa.
Also decided to get rid of "Da Share Zone" dip on my front fender.





MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



Good call on losing the dip

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Question: How will people know how badass you are without the skulls?

titanium
Mar 11, 2004

NONE SHALL PASS!

Martytoof posted:

Question: How will people know how badass you are without the skulls?

They listen to that roaring 200cc engine of course!

Ulf
Jul 15, 2001

FOUR COLORS
ONE LOVE
Nap Ghost
Surely those were ironic skulls.

The last few days I’ve had some new rear shocks from Progressive on my Nighthawk, and they were stiff as hell and made it feel like a hardtail. Sitting on it I was getting nowhere near the target sag.

Last night I got a few minutes to look into it and figured it out. The original shocks have mounts top/bottom that are centered on the shock itself, but the replacements have the lower mount offset so that you can work around figment issues by spinning it 180deg to flip the offset from one side to another. By choosing the orientation that I did I created a situation like this (seen from rear):
pre:
  /    \
If you compress these shocks the angle gets steeper and you’re putting all your energy into twisting the mount bushings.

I flipped the offsets and the suspension became a lot more parallel, and while I still can’t hit the target sag it’s a lot better.

Revvik
Jul 29, 2006
Fun Shoe

MomJeans420 posted:

Good call on losing the dip

I’d have left it, really lean into it even.



Few days back, but: Purple GL1100 fires, haven’t put plugs in or tried running fuel through it because I’m dreading the carbs. Needed a new starter solenoid, and replaced the starter because I have trust issues with them and it’s like. Right there. So why not.

I have a single carb conversion kit halfway together, and I’m thinking of throwing that on and sending the stock carbs in to a specialist because frankly my job is drowning me right now. Or I’ll just put the single on my ‘78.



The ‘78 got an oil change, but not a filter. Housing bolt rounded off. Replaced the starter solenoid again (spend more than $8 on a solenoid). Starter itself is getting ready to eat poo poo. Rear shocks are just for show. Getting tired of the half-Gorilla Tape seat look.

Revvik fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Apr 29, 2020

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Some quality bikes for page 420.

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
Actually received an order of what I was certain were No Longer Available parts and tools. Going to have to mine hord for more now.



Went for a ride in the mountains with a friend. We both hadn't been out for over a month and needed it. Got to ride that Z1000 for an hour and now I'm completely ruined.

We both agreed the hawk is splended and set up perfectly all around. ( Thanks Jazzzzz! )

Coydog fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Apr 30, 2020

Ulf
Jul 15, 2001

FOUR COLORS
ONE LOVE
Nap Ghost

Coydog posted:

Actually received an order of what I was certain were No Longer Available parts and tools. Going to have to mine hord for more now.
Congrats! I'm going to be sad when I start running into availability issues w/ my 90s CB750, there is so much ONS and aftermarket for earlier decades but my generation is going to be out of luck I think.

Today I took the wheels off my Zero. Then I took the wheels to a dealership, found out they actually didn't have Road 5s in stock, took the wheels back home and put them back on. I'd be miffed but this is the first time I've had the bike fully in the air so it was good to get that out of the way.

The USD forks are uneven and not easily liftable, so the winning solution was a paddock stand in back and a scissor lift under the front edge of the battery. There was a little worry that might crush the L1 charger pan but apparently people do this lift all the time.

GriszledMelkaba
Sep 4, 2003


Coydog posted:

Got to ride that Z1000 for an hour and now I'm completely ruined.


There was a dude way the hell long ago on here that had a murdered out z1000 that I have always had in the back of my mind as a thing to look out for and this reminded me of that so ty

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
Got some parts in.



New handguards
Oil filter and o rings
Fork oil
Fork seals, driver and bullet
Fork air bleeders
Front wheel tool
Various little stuff that needed replacement

right arm
Oct 30, 2011

those bleeders are my favorite farkle. super satisfying to hit them after I set up camp

tsssssssss

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I don't understand why they don't come that way from the factory, are you expected to bust out the screwdriver after every single ride?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Slavvy posted:

I don't understand why they don't come that way from the factory, are you expected to bust out the screwdriver after every single ride?

probably the same reason motorcycles don't come with a set of speed bleeders from the factory despite it being the best 16 dollars you'll ever spend (the manufacturers are extremely cheap)

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
My biggest issue was whoever rebuilt my forks before I bought it reinstalled the bleeders directly under the bars making it a pain in the rear end to get to with a flat head. I have to rebuild my forks anyway so I'll just go ahead and spin those around so they're easier to get to and then install the quick bleeders. I asked my riding buddy when the last time he bled his shocks were and he looked confused. I did it for him and it sounded like trying to deflate an air mattress.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I just want to say working on an 86 Honda while a vaporwave playlist plays in the background is a ~ M O O D ~ highly recommended if you have the requisite items.

right arm
Oct 30, 2011

I have too much painters tape and free time

GlazedMcGuffin
Jan 26, 2004
Hard disagree; you have exactly the right amount because that looks loving sweet

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

What the hell are YOU?
You'd think for the amount of money that Harley Davidson charges for their touring motorcycles that every single detail would be tits right from the factory.

You'd hope, anyway. In reality the stock suspension is god damned garbage and belongs in the trash.



Fortunately my brother has a lift he could bring over, which is great because I didn't even think of that.



Replacing shocks is pretty easy, and these are many times better.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Baggers with good suspension are soooo much fun.

Scrape the boards, do a burnout, gently caress some people off, scrape the boards some more ad infinitum.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
Put new handguards on my dirtbike. The full wraparounds feel so much more secure than the cheap stripped out ones that were on there earlier.


Rebuilding the forks which have been leaking oil for a while. My buddies truck has an oil spot in the back from where my bike gets loaded.


I ordered everything I needed. Last night I took the forks off the bike. Cleaned up a few small scratches in the lower legs. I realized I forgot to pick up a 14mm hex socket so I went and got that today. I opened up my forks and poured out what looked like watery chocolate milk which isn't great. Once I got all that out, I went to remove the cartridge in the bottom but the damper rod just kept spinning.


As I looked into the fork and service manual, it was clear I need a specific Yamaha tool to hold it in place while I loosen the bottom nut. Awesome. A quick search showed that it was going to be at least $30 plus shipping and waiting for the cheapest option and much more for the actual tool from yamaha if you can even find it. Then I found a DIY option which I'll be making tomorrow. Its basically a long tube with 4 prongs at one end. It can be made out of a closet clothing rod found at home depot which fits perfectly.

Oh, and I realized my rear suspension link bearings are shot. There's quite a bit of vertical play. The work never stops. I just want to feel ahead of maintenance for once but I think the more you know how to fix, the more you look for and the more you find.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

Verman posted:

Put new handguards on my dirtbike. The full wraparounds feel so much more secure than the cheap stripped out ones that were on there earlier.


Rebuilding the forks which have been leaking oil for a while. My buddies truck has an oil spot in the back from where my bike gets loaded.


I ordered everything I needed. Last night I took the forks off the bike. Cleaned up a few small scratches in the lower legs. I realized I forgot to pick up a 14mm hex socket so I went and got that today. I opened up my forks and poured out what looked like watery chocolate milk which isn't great. Once I got all that out, I went to remove the cartridge in the bottom but the damper rod just kept spinning.


As I looked into the fork and service manual, it was clear I need a specific Yamaha tool to hold it in place while I loosen the bottom nut. Awesome. A quick search showed that it was going to be at least $30 plus shipping and waiting for the cheapest option and much more for the actual tool from yamaha if you can even find it. Then I found a DIY option which I'll be making tomorrow. Its basically a long tube with 4 prongs at one end. It can be made out of a closet clothing rod found at home depot which fits perfectly.

Oh, and I realized my rear suspension link bearings are shot. There's quite a bit of vertical play. The work never stops. I just want to feel ahead of maintenance for once but I think the more you know how to fix, the more you look for and the more you find.

Riding bikes in the dirt is also very hard on them.

High Protein
Jul 12, 2009

Verman posted:

the more you know how to fix, the more you look for and the more you find.

Well said.

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

My battery died because pandemic and I was in a hurry so I successfully bump-started a vehicle for the first time. I'm sorry I let your battery die, motorcycle. I even own a tender and everything but I never thought I'd ride it this seldom during all this. :smith:

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
Fork update. I was always nervous about suspension. It seemed like some sort of weird voodoo magic and super sensitive etc. Now that I've been into it I will have no problem doing it again.

Went to Home Depot for the materials needed to build my fork tool. Also picked up some angled aluminum to make some softjaws for my vise.


Made a tracing of the Home Depot closet rod so I could divide into equal parts. Wrapped it in painters tape so I could grid it off since I don't have exact measurements of what its engaging.



Success, and it works! Now I can remove the bottom cartridge and damper rod.


Fork parts, most of them anyway


Finally got everything reassembled and filled with oil. Well, mostly. Everything I looked at said one bottle of oil would suffice but after filling the first fork to spec, I definitely need another bottle of unicorn piss. My local Yamaha dealerships are closed on Mondays so I'll wait until tomorrow or just go ahead and order some. Regardless, all I need to do is fill the other fork to spec level and put them back on the bike. Next time I'll probably just run Maxima, Belray, or Motul or some other alternative.


I seriously think I might have used 2 rolls of shop towel and an entire can of cleaner. This is an incredibly messy job.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Verman posted:

Fork update. I was always nervous about suspension. It seemed like some sort of weird voodoo magic and super sensitive etc. Now that I've been into it I will have no problem doing it again.

Went to Home Depot for the materials needed to build my fork tool. Also picked up some angled aluminum to make some softjaws for my vise.


Made a tracing of the Home Depot closet rod so I could divide into equal parts. Wrapped it in painters tape so I could grid it off since I don't have exact measurements of what its engaging.



Success, and it works! Now I can remove the bottom cartridge and damper rod.


Fork parts, most of them anyway


Finally got everything reassembled and filled with oil. Well, mostly. Everything I looked at said one bottle of oil would suffice but after filling the first fork to spec, I definitely need another bottle of unicorn piss. My local Yamaha dealerships are closed on Mondays so I'll wait until tomorrow or just go ahead and order some. Regardless, all I need to do is fill the other fork to spec level and put them back on the bike. Next time I'll probably just run Maxima, Belray, or Motul or some other alternative.


I seriously think I might have used 2 rolls of shop towel and an entire can of cleaner. This is an incredibly messy job.

Google fork oil cst comparison charts if you want to start sweating and get a lot less blase about fork oil specs immediately :v:

Ulf
Jul 15, 2001

FOUR COLORS
ONE LOVE
Nap Ghost
There’s such a thing as fork oil? We’re not supposed to just use ATF?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

90w140 for that racy feel.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Ulf posted:

There’s such a thing as fork oil? We’re not supposed to just use ATF?

I don't on anything newer than 1980.

Shelvocke
Aug 6, 2013

Microwave Engraver


Replacing the stock stator on the xr650r. I'd like to thank Honda for considerately including at least one coil of wire per.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




No way is that the factory stator. Some PO rewound that and covered it in...............*squints*...................whatever is inside Ash from the Alien movies?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
"rewound"

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Living my best life right now



I love working on 125s, everything's simple and small and just right there.

Pulled the left case off to double check what kind of stator I've got, and to take resistance readings from the other end of the leads to make absolutely sure the break is internal.




It... looks fine? Is it typical for a wire to break invisibly somewhere inside one of the windings?

Shelvocke
Aug 6, 2013

Microwave Engraver

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

No way is that the factory stator. Some PO rewound that and covered it in...............*squints*...................whatever is inside Ash from the Alien movies?

There's a lot of sharpie inside the generator cover which is not in Japanese so I think you're almost certainly right?

PO fuckery would almost certainly explain some of the electrical issues I've been having in the 4 years with this bike and probably why I've had to rewire it completely. Great learning experience so I don't resent it (my wallet might)

I did my first helicoil as part of the same task; I don't know what I was worried about, it was an easy ten minute job.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

Shelvocke posted:



Replacing the stock stator on the xr650r. I'd like to thank Honda for considerately including at least one coil of wire per.

looks like a redneck special

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

No way is that the factory stator. Some PO rewound that and covered it in...............*squints*...................whatever is inside Ash from the Alien movies?

https://i.imgur.com/2zeJ4xF.mp4

i'm guessing it was either a misguided attempt to make the bike lighter, or just the classic combination of meth + copper wire

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


Shelvocke posted:



Replacing the stock stator on the xr650r. I'd like to thank Honda for considerately including at least one coil of wire per.

That looks like it got fixed by a local way out in the bush in Oaxaca and it was still working when the PO made it back to civilization so they said “gently caress it, let’s roll.”

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