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US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah

So the VP for this year's dem ticket is Sen. Kombucha? and Pres. Obama is gonna be at a VP Biden townhall? Why do people think Sec Clinton is going to be the veep pick? idgi I feel dumb

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


I live in a solidly blue state and will 100000% come out and vote for the downballot and was even prepared to pull the lever for Joe (not happlily) but goddamn if he pics Klob I'll still downballot but fuuuuuck voting for that shitpile.

If I was in a red state I'd do it but would loving stop funneling money to the registered DNC I did with the note "Get your poo poo together".

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

That Works posted:

I live in a solidly blue state and will 100000% come out and vote for the downballot and was even prepared to pull the lever for Joe (not happlily) but goddamn if he pics Klob I'll still downballot but fuuuuuck voting for that shitpile.

If I was in a red state I'd do it but would loving stop funneling money to the registered DNC I did with the note "Get your poo poo together".

This is a sane take. Thank you.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
The Klob slipped up back on Super Tuesday and said she was thrilled to join the ticket. There was a 50/50 chance she actually was going to be the VP pick or if she just misspoke. Guess we'll find out soon.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
I feel like it's really cheap and juvenile to make fun of her last name (this isn't partisan of me, I utterly loathe the "Drumpf" meme), but the fact I haven't been able to get her name to stick in my head despite her being around for months is making it really hard for me to avoid. I had the same problem with Mayor Pete.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Pug is first confirmed dog to get covid 19. virus has gone too far imo

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-us-pug-wellness-trnd/index.html

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Imagine I posted that memorial to dogs and cats from that one 70s Planet of the Apes movie.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

klobb

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



bloops posted:

Pug is first confirmed dog to get covid 19. virus has gone too far imo

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-us-pug-wellness-trnd/index.html

That sucks but the family claims Winston is back to 100% though.

He looks like a good boy.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
The klobb in goldeneye wasn't that bad a gun if you were playing with ohk

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Milo and POTUS posted:

The klobb in goldeneye wasn't that bad a gun if you were playing with ohk

I remember finding a Škorpion in Snake Eater and only then realizing that’s what the Klobb was based off of. As I recall in Snake Eater you get it too late to be a game changer, but fun to mess around with.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Milo and POTUS posted:

The klobb in goldeneye wasn't that bad a gun if you were playing with ohk

But in goldeneye the Klobb was generally available in the same weapon packs that included much better weapons such as the KF7 Soviet, or hell even just the PP7. The Klobb was just such a massive pile of poo poo.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


That Works posted:

I live in a solidly blue state and will 100000% come out and vote for the downballot and was even prepared to pull the lever for Joe (not happlily) but goddamn if he pics Klob I'll still downballot but fuuuuuck voting for that shitpile.

If I was in a red state I'd do it but would loving stop funneling money to the registered DNC I did with the note "Get your poo poo together".

Yeah this is where I'm at as well.

Milo and POTUS posted:

The klobb in goldeneye wasn't that bad a gun if you were playing with ohk

I'm glad I'm not the only one whose brain immediately.thinks of this every time her name comes up.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Vasudus posted:

The Klob slipped up back on Super Tuesday and said she was thrilled to join the ticket. There was a 50/50 chance she actually was going to be the VP pick or if she just misspoke. Guess we'll find out soon.

They're just determined to find the most unlikeable white woman in the country to be the first female president.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

They learned the wrong lesson from the nation's response to a charismatic man as the first black president so they're going to try to go the other way with the first woman president

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Stultus Maximus posted:

They're just determined to find the most unlikeable white woman in the country to be the first female president.

Are there even any likeable white women?

/twitter

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Handsome Ralph posted:

Yeah this is where I'm at as well.

God damnit DNC - don't pull this loving maneuver.

E: This is worse than McCain's pick

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Are there even any likeable white women?

/twitter

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
listen if affluent white women can't ride their husbands coat tails to the highest office in the land what was the point of feminism

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


TCD posted:

God damnit DNC - don't pull this loving maneuver.

E: This is worse than McCain's pick

Truth

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

:bisonyes:

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

This is a sane take. Thank you.

so just to be clear, do you think the current incarnation of the democratic party can reform itself into something other than 'coward centrists' without completely collapsing in anything resembling a reasonable timeframe

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
While I don't think it's unlikely that Klobuchar might be the pick, I think folks are way too certain based only off Twitter rumors and people misspeaking.

Edit: JFC, I've been leaning toward a reluctant vote for Biden, but the campaign has been actively giving me the finger in the last month:

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1255615811621924870

Cugel the Clever fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Apr 30, 2020

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

TCD posted:

God damnit DNC - don't pull this loving maneuver.

E: This is worse than McCain's pick

Nah, it's would be an extremely unenthusiastic pick that would maybe pick up a few votes from people who aren't jazzed about Biden but like the idea of a female VP, but doesn't actually hurt the ticket. Palin hurt McCain badly, because his whole pitch was contrasting "Look how much experience I have, and how much Obama doesn't", but as soon as people realized just how dumb Palin was they started looking at actuarial tables instead.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
I'm also going to take a giant leap and say that at least Klob would be a better pick than Tim Kaine was.

e:


:lol:

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
ill only remember Klob as a failed VP pick because she's abusive vs Tim Kaine who I seriously can't remember without looking up

Arcella
Dec 16, 2013

Shiny and Chrome

Internet Wizard posted:

They learned the wrong lesson from the nation's response to a charismatic man as the first black president so they're going to try to go the other way with the first woman president

They tried an unlikeable white woman last time.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Acebuckeye13 posted:

Nah, it's would be an extremely unenthusiastic pick that would maybe pick up a few votes from people who aren't jazzed about Biden but like the idea of a female VP, but doesn't actually hurt the ticket. Palin hurt McCain badly, because his whole pitch was contrasting "Look how much experience I have, and how much Obama doesn't", but as soon as people realized just how dumb Palin was they started looking at actuarial tables instead.

I think McCain was a centrist who made a pick to the right to keep the shifting party happy. Palin was closer then to the GOP ideal now.

Biden is a centrist picking another lovely centrist. Presuming Klob is the nominee

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Patware posted:

so just to be clear, do you think the current incarnation of the democratic party can reform itself into something other than 'coward centrists' without completely collapsing in anything resembling a reasonable timeframe

Could they? Sure.

Will they? gently caress knows.

Arven
Sep 23, 2007
I dunno, I was still a republican in 2008 and we all thought Palin was an awesome choice to stick it to the libs because our woman canceled out their Black guy as being progressive. I'm still not very smart, but at least I'm a socialist now :shrug:

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

That Works posted:

I think McCain was a centrist who made a pick to the right to keep the shifting party happy. Palin was closer then to the GOP ideal now.

Biden is a centrist picking another lovely centrist. Presuming Klob is the nominee

McCain wasn't really a centrist, though there were a lot of grumbles to his right. The Palin pick was really about nullifying Obama's advantages—getting someone with youth and charisma who was strong on guns and pro-life, and helping the McCain campaign achieve their own historic "first female vice president" to counteract Obama's "First african-american President." The vetting period was extremely short, however, and they had no idea just how belligerant or unintelligent she actually was.

By contrast, Biden wants the campaign to be about a return to competency and normalcy, focusing on pragmatic goals and accomplishments to broaden access healthcare, secure voting rights, and reverse the Trump administration's attacks on American institutions. So for them, someone like Klob makes sense: a long-standing and popular Senator from the Midwest with solid credentials and a pragmatic approach to government that is well-qualified to be President should Joe suddenly wither to dust in office. She doesn't attract anyone on the left, but there is a chance the Biden campaign is calculating that the gains from picking a candidate more appealing to the left would be offset by losses from Republican-leaning independents in the center who are concerned about Biden being too far left already.*

It's not a rationale I really agree with and I think there are much better options, but it's not nearly as bad as the Palin pick imo, which was straight-up disastrous to McCain's campaign.

*I will fully admit to using 'my dad' as a stand-in to the kinds of voters the Biden campaign is looking to appeal to, but in fairness given he's a white, upper-middle class boomer in suburban Michigan I don't think I'm too far off the mark

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Cugel the Clever posted:

While I don't think it's unlikely that Klobuchar might be the pick, I think folks are way too certain based only off Twitter rumors and people misspeaking.

Edit: JFC, I've been leaning toward a reluctant vote for Biden, but the campaign has been actively giving me the finger in the last month:

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1255615811621924870

Aaaand I’m out. Downballot votes only from me. That’s the last straw in the shape of a middle finger

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Klobgoblins rise up!

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

Internet Wizard posted:

Aaaand I’m out. Downballot votes only from me. That’s the last straw in the shape of a middle finger

Oh, you know that was going to happen. I bet he's just glad he wouldn't have to face the backlash of doing it himself. One of the Obama campaign's major reasons for picking Biden as VP was to allay the fears of Jewish and Israeli lobbying groups.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!



i'm surprised that anyone is surprised by this; israel is a keystone of the empire, and the empire is a bipartisan liberal project

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Klob makes perfect sense if you're not actually trying to bring reachable voters to the polls because stopping Sanders was the only goal of your campaign.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
I don’t see the importance of that as a voting issue. Someone explain why should I care. And I’m not being flippant, I genuinely don’t.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

bloops posted:

I don’t see the importance of that as a voting issue. Someone explain why should I care. And I’m not being flippant, I genuinely don’t.

Because a central plank of Democratic for gun policy has always been a two state solution and recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital has been regarded by most people who understand the situation as not just putting nails in the coffin of the peace process, but dumping cement on top of it. It’s basically Biden embracing his calling as the leader of the “Better Things Aren’t Possible” Brigade by refusing to undo one of the biggest and also dumbest foreign policy moves of the Trump administration. It continues to normalize the Israeli occupation and is nothing close to resembling even the milquetoast approach of Obama or even GWB before him.

The only reason I have to vote for Biden at this point is that he isn’t Trump. After that, I hope the progressive wing of the party puts the Pelosi and Biden types out to pasture for good.

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maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Look do you want a fuckin' rapture or not?

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