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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I assume it's a Dutch pronunciation thing.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Pizza's good.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

OwlFancier posted:

I assume it's a Dutch pronunciation thing.

Yeah that. Not like crazy long, but where we say "PEE-zuh", they say "PITZ-ah". So if you wrote pizzas, it would be pronounces "pitzass" instead of "pitzahs".

Dutch is weird.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
pitz rear end

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012



I spent Christmas with a family friend who while otherwise quite lovely is a pretty tedious centrist. "Labour's problem is they just need to listen," she said. "Listen to who?" I asked. Then she told me about some young lad she knew who couldn't find a job because there were no local bus routes near him that could take him anywhere he could find work. "None of the political parties care about problems like his," she said. I told her that in the election Labour had a manifesto commitment to nationalise the bus services and introduce thousands of new bus routes. "Yeah, well, they just need to listen," she replied.

Turned out she meant they should listen to Guardian columnists.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Failed Imagineer posted:

"issues of the subcontinent" is some Lloyd George-rear end phrasing

I had a subcontinent issue last night after a little too much fried chicken

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
He went to India in 1941, and was assigned to Calcutta shortly afterwards. That was not the most glorious time and place in British military history.

To be perfectly fair, though, he did then help Burma win functional independence after Japan turned out to be even more poo poo at running the country than the British Empire.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Bobstar posted:

Yeah that. Not like crazy long, but where we say "PEE-zuh", they say "PITZ-ah". So if you wrote pizzas, it would be pronounces "pitzass" instead of "pitzahs".

Dutch is weird.

It's the same in German, which just reinforces my belief that Dutch isn't a real language but something they made up to piss off the Germans.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Lack of land wars in Europe leading to a generation of soft shites who are convinced that they fought land wars in Europe.

*laughs in Serbo-Croat*

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Comrade Fakename posted:

I spent Christmas with a family friend who while otherwise quite lovely is a pretty tedious centrist. "Labour's problem is they just need to listen," she said. "Listen to who?" I asked. Then she told me about some young lad she knew who couldn't find a job because there were no local bus routes near him that could take him anywhere he could find work. "None of the political parties care about problems like his," she said. I told her that in the election Labour had a manifesto commitment to nationalise the bus services and introduce thousands of new bus routes. "Yeah, well, they just need to listen," she replied.

Turned out she meant they should listen to Guardian columnists.

its always about being reactionary and racist and

https://twitter.com/LabourList/status/1255806748482404352

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
Amazing. What could possibly go wrong.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Jose posted:

its always about being reactionary and racist and

https://twitter.com/LabourList/status/1255806748482404352

whoa he is animorphing into richard spencer too

e: really the listening to lost voters thing has to be embracing brexit in some form.

i guess since they dont want to do that and kier is mrsir remoaner they may just bash immigrants instead
curious if they take anything else away from these frank chats with some stakeholders on zoom

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The article does mention:

quote:

“It’s a mountain to climb. But four years is time enough for us to do what we need to do,” Keir Starmer told The Mirror last night. He is a man with a plan to win power, which is lucky since that’s what he is there to do. The Labour leader has revealed that he is launching a virtual tour of the country, holding a series of ‘call Keir’ events on Zoom to have some “gritty” conversations and win back the trust of the electorate. The first of the ‘town hall’ style events will see the north London MP speak with voters in Red Wall seats in Bury and the Tees Valley – areas where Labour lost last year and will need to reclaim if it’s to win power.

The Labour leader has said that the online meetings, the first of which will take place this afternoon, will help the party hold the government to account over its handling of coronavirus. Starmer wants to “hear directly from people about their experiences” of the pandemic, and has announced plans that will see him talk to residents from every region and nation of the UK. Dozens of the ‘call Keir’ events will take place over the coming weeks, forming part of a number of meetings he has held with key workers, small businesses and representatives of BAME communities since becoming leader. The party has picked two of the most marginally held Tory seats in the country to kick-off the tour, with more locations to be revealed.

Though personally I'm more skeptical of how you talk to lost voters by doing zoom calls because I highly doubt many of the people who don't vote labour up here are going to be very interested in zoom calling a posh london lawyer.

Gritty politics conversations up here is people yelling about brexit at you across the street.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i don't even see why it matters now all the opposition should be doing is banging on about covid considering any election is ages away

https://twitter.com/davidrhodesBBC/status/1255797679419994113

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Bobstar posted:

Yeah that. Not like crazy long, but where we say "PEE-zuh", they say "PITZ-ah". So if you wrote pizzas, it would be pronounces "pitzass" instead of "pitzahs".

Dutch is weird.

It's the same in Hebrew but the pluralisation is done as Pitzot because pizzas are female. :jewish:

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Comrade Fakename posted:

I spent Christmas with a family friend who while otherwise quite lovely is a pretty tedious centrist. "Labour's problem is they just need to listen," she said. "Listen to who?" I asked. Then she told me about some young lad she knew who couldn't find a job because there were no local bus routes near him that could take him anywhere he could find work. "None of the political parties care about problems like his," she said. I told her that in the election Labour had a manifesto commitment to nationalise the bus services and introduce thousands of new bus routes. "Yeah, well, they just need to listen," she replied.

Had exactly this over Christmas with an in-law who was more "personally perfectly nice but likes BORIS because he was hilarious on HIGNFY, did that whiff-whaff speech in Beijing and has an optimistic vision*". Had to listen to how Labour lost its 'core votes' and 'didn't listen to the ordinary working class' and 'wasn't offering anything to solve the problems of everyday people, just a load of champagne-socialist identity politics and complicated economics that wouldn't work.' So I went full tedious :actually: and rattled off Labour's proposals for secure and well-paid regional jobs, to increase housing availability and reduce costs, to lower the prices of public transport, to improve working conditions and workers' rights, to reform and re-fund education, to improve the NHS etc. etc. etc. and finished off something to the effect that even if you personally didn't think these policies would work, they were at least addressing what we're now suddenly hearing were the issues that everyone really wanted to hear about.

The response was "Labour didn't listen to people when they were in power last time. People were worried about immigration and they were just called racists and bigots."

So:

Jose posted:

its always about being reactionary and racist and

every time.

* This meme about Boris' unique appeal based on his optimism is similar bullshit that winds me up, because like 'pragmatism' and 'realistic' (or even 'forensic' questioning...) it basically means 'has a vision that I agree with.' I think Labour's 2019 manifesto was bloody optimistic - it was laying out a vision of a better society and a better nation and saying how we'd get there. It was acknowledging that there were a lot of problems but this is how they're going to be tackled or solved. That things don't have to be like this. That's optimism.

But apparently saying how the country could be better isn't optimism, it's 'doing Britain down'. Optimism actually means waving Union Jacks, throwing the phrase 'Great Britain' into every speech and insisting that everything is wonderful and lovely right now and nothing needs to change. What I think most people would call delusion or denial. So:

Jose posted:

its always about being reactionary and racist and

:hotpickle:

Yes, being stuck in the house without a job watching the government gently caress everything up is finally getting to me after six weeks. How could you tell?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jose posted:

i don't even see why it matters now all the opposition should be doing is banging on about covid considering any election is ages away

https://twitter.com/davidrhodesBBC/status/1255797679419994113
East Midlands near the bottom for something good this time.

Miftan posted:

pizzas are female
Daily Mail says: ban this filth.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
It is clap-clap day, girls and boys. Are we excited for clap-clap time? :coffeepal:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Clap-clap this fat rear end.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Jose posted:

he's 100 so chances are he is racist

:ironicat:

a bit prejudiced don’t you think?

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Miftan posted:

It's the same in Hebrew but the pluralisation is done as Pitzot because pizzas are female. :jewish:

Interesting! I wish I knew more about Hebrew, especially because Yiddish is basically like Luxembourgish and Hebrew had a baby, so I can understand some of it.

The Deleter
May 22, 2010
I was not initially against the clap because I thought it would be a one-off event but now that it's turned into a ritual I loving hate it.

The Deleter
May 22, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

East Midlands near the bottom for something good this time.
There's no reason to go outside in the East Midlands even at the best of times.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

Pizza's good.

Thanks for reminding me of the one mate who, in the nineties when delivery pizza was still a novelty, would insist on singing this over and over again to the tune of Ebeneezer Goode until the pizza arrived. Incidentally did you know justifiable homicide is actually a valid defence in English courts?

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

Though personally I'm more skeptical of how you talk to lost voters by doing zoom calls because I highly doubt many of the people who don't vote labour up here are going to be very interested in zoom calling a posh london lawyer.

That's ok, they already know the take home message of these zoom calls they want (drop the left wing platform you campaigned on) so they don't need anyone to actually be on the line.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

The Deleter posted:

There's no reason to go outside in the East Midlands even at the best of times.
We have some nice fields. One of them has a horse.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Ebeneezer Goode
And now I have that stuck in my head.

did u kno it's about the drugs, very edgy

Going to blast it out of my head with Rhythm Of The Night.

The Deleter
May 22, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

We have some nice fields. One of them has a horse.

It's the only horse we could afford.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

brainspiders to the point of making cargo cult effigies to appease the NHS rather than voting against austerity

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If we clap hard enough then ppe will rain from the sky.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
https://twitter.com/NickFarmer3/status/1255828596574355456

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Communist Thoughts posted:

whoa he is animorphing into richard spencer too

e: really the listening to lost voters thing has to be embracing brexit in some form.

i guess since they dont want to do that and kier is mrsir remoaner they may just bash immigrants instead
curious if they take anything else away from these frank chats with some stakeholders on zoom

Labour going full red/brown.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


keep punching joe posted:

Labour going full red/brown.

oh right lol, is kier a brownite?

those guys are always waiting for a comeback

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

The Deleter posted:

I was not initially against the clap because I thought it would be a one-off event but now that it's turned into a ritual I loving hate it.

I thought it was cringe from the start, and it has since been coopted as a purity test by exactly the sort of people who voted to gently caress the NHS in the first place, e.g. our very nasty tory CFO who sanctimoniously told someone they couldn't arrange a social event at 8 on a thursday because that's when the clap is in a "and now we all know you don't do it SMDH" sort of way in a Zoom call this morning

it's a thumbs down from me

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/apr/30/covid-19-crisis-demand-fossil-fuels-iea-renewable-electricity

quote:

Renewable electricity will be the only source resilient to the biggest global energy shock in 70 years triggered by the coronavirus pandemic, according to the world’s energy watchdog.

The International Energy Agency said the outbreak of Covid-19 would wipe out demand for fossil fuels by prompting a collapse in energy demand seven times greater than the slump caused by the global financial crisis.

In a report, the IEA said the most severe plunge in energy demand since the second world war would trigger multi-decade lows for the world’s consumption of oil, gas and coal while renewable energy continued to grow.

The steady rise of renewable energy combined with the collapse in demand for fossil fuels means clean electricity will play its largest ever role in the global energy system this year, and help erase a decade’s growth of global carbon emissions.

Fatih Birol, the IEA’s executive director, said: “The plunge in demand for nearly all major fuels is staggering, especially for coal, oil and gas. Only renewables are holding up during the previously unheard of slump in electricity use.”

Renewable energy is expected to grow by 5% this year, to make up almost 30% of the world’s shrinking demand for electricity. The growth of renewables despite a global crisis could spur fossil fuel companies towards their goals to generate more clean energy, according to Birol, but governments should also include clean energy at the heart of economic stimulus packages to ensure a green recovery.

“It is still too early to determine the longer-term impacts,” said Birol. “But the energy industry that emerges from this crisis will be significantly different from the one that came before.”

The impact of the coronavirus has triggered a crisis for fossil fuel commodities, including the collapse of oil market prices, which turned negative for the first time in the US earlier this month.

Global efforts to curb the spread of Covid-19 have led to severe restrictions on travel and the global economy that will cause the biggest drop in global oil demand in 25 years.

Demand for gas is expected to fall by 5%, after a decade of uninterrupted growth. It is the steepest drop since gas became widely used as an energy source in the second half of the previous century.

Coal demand is forecast to fall by 8% compared with 2019, its largest decline since the end of the second world war.

The Paris-based energy authority used data from every country and across each energy sector to analyse the impact of the pandemic on the global system.

It found that global energy demand was likely to plummet by 6% this year, the equivalent of losing the entire energy demand of India – the world’s third largest energy consumer – or the combined energy demand of France, Germany, Italy and the UK.

The impact of the pandemic on energy use will be more keenly felt in advanced economies where demand is expected to fall by 11% across the EU and 9% across the US.

The collapse of fossil fuel demand could lead global emissions to fall by 8% compared with 2019, a drop six times larger than the record fall after the financial crisis in 2009 to lows not seen in the past decade.

The 3bn tonne drop in carbon dioxide emissions surpasses data commissioned by the Guardian this month that predicted a fall or 2.5 bn tonnes this year, greater than the drop triggered by every financial crash since the second world war combined.

this is good??

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Comrade Covid at it again.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Communist Thoughts posted:

oh right lol, is kier a brownite?

those guys are always waiting for a comeback

Brown didn't listen to middle England bigots, expect Der Starmer Labour to definitely want to harness some of that energy though.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Communist Thoughts posted:

oh right lol, is kier a brownite?

those guys are always waiting for a comeback

i think that's a nazbol joke not a gordon brown joke

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

I'm going to time my daily walk so I come back at 8pm, it's like a parade. Even better when you're stoned.

Jose posted:

its always about being reactionary and racist and

https://twitter.com/LabourList/status/1255806748482404352

Can't believe it's not even May and we're already doing 'gritty' zoom calls. By June we'll have grimdark Microsoft Team meetings until plumetting down into virtual snuff meetings where everyones face is covered by a CGI dog mask that licks the screen everytime they open their mouths.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tempted to try to get on the zoom call with a hotline miami filter.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

OwlFancier posted:

Comrade Covid at it again.

Welcome to Covid's Britain

Can we please get the "yes haha yes" window but with a coronavirus looking in? I feel this image is way overdue

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Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

justcola posted:

I'm going to time my daily walk so I come back at 8pm, it's like a parade. Even better when you're stoned.


Can't believe it's not even May and we're already doing 'gritty' zoom calls. By June we'll have grimdark Microsoft Team meetings until plumetting down into virtual snuff meetings where everyones face is covered by a CGI dog mask that licks the screen everytime they open their mouths.

Hard. Choices.

Like whether to be grumpy or polite to immigrants as we deport them.


Unrelated (I hope), what about electric or hydrogen ships to travel to the US? More realistic than non-fossil planes in the short term? Obviously I'm imagining a world where we have lots of leisure time because luxury communism.

Bobstar fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Apr 30, 2020

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