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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
look i went into that thread and went off but let's try to avoid quoting the giant :effort: post in full

draws line starting here

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Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames


imagine trying to start an earnest non-shitpost conversation based on a screenshot of someone googling "chapo trap house charity" and whining that the first result was a soundcloud account

Goast has issued a correction as of 00:36 on May 1, 2020

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
This is the funniest thing I've read all week, a giant crazywall proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that a podcast makes money

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

i recite 14 words before every episode, but they are all paeans to Mother Sky, merry Gaia, whose name is Love

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"
how do they chapos explain that, according to THEIR OWN WIKIPEDIA PAGE, they have given a total of $0 to the Gates Foundation.

I rest my case.

Lady Militant
Apr 8, 2020

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

Uncle Wemus posted:

hello fellow anarcho-syndicalists, did you know chapo trap house takes amazon money, Universal Media Group money, and other assorted horrible capitalist entities money alongside a healthy 2 mil a year?


sir this is the WH40k thread

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Uncle Wemus posted:

hello fellow anarcho-syndicalists,

lol why are they always anarchists

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Lady Militant posted:

sir this is the WH40k thread



this is one of the best Metal Slug conversions I've ever seen, hot drat

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Uncle Wemus posted:

hello fellow anarcho-syndicalists,

Could I please get this in video form yelled from the drivers seat of a hot parked car tia

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

lol why are they always anarchists

The same narcissistic overconfidence that leads you to proclaim this one specific type of anarchism is correct also deludes you that you're the one smart enough to write the post that will FINALLY reveal the truth about The Bad Podcast

Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

I am never going to pay people to live in Williamsburg and make podcasts but that post is a very hearty lol

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.
edit: nmind

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

edit: pretend i emptyquoted the big thing just to say lol

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Uncle Wemus posted:

hello fellow anarcho-syndicalists

I thought us chapo listeners were all crypto fash?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

gh0stpinballa posted:

anarchists probably have more in common with republicans and liberals than we realise, in that sooner or later they're gonna tearfully implore us to support a NATO bombing campaign in some developing country.
not most anarchists but there's a weird group of people who have been pushing the "chapo are red-brown" thing

https://twitter.com/Term20201/status/1251963854004736002

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

not most anarchists but there's a weird group of people who have been pushing the "chapo are red-brown" thing

https://twitter.com/Term20201/status/1251963854004736002

oh jesus, is this Gryphoneer poo poo again

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Lady Militant posted:

sir this is the WH40k thread



I've always wanted to play a Warhammer, and even painted some dudes, but never found the time or energy to complete an entire army or find people to play with. Thuis quarantine has driven me so loopy and reminded me of my mortality to the point that I just ordered the Blood Bowl starter. I will paint both teams and take the whole thing down to my closest game store and come hell or highwater I will complete at least one game of fantasy football.

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Uncle Wemus posted:

hello fellow anarcho-syndicalists, did you know chapo trap house takes amazon money, Universal Media Group money, and other assorted horrible capitalist entities money alongside a healthy 2 mil a year?

join me in a journey into MONEY, LOADS OF MONEY



chapo trap house makes absurd levels of patreon money, selling best seller books on Amazon, a known hellhole for worker abuse, profiting off of slave labor sweatshops with Universal Music Group, and generally just hoarding cash without giving any to charity or good causes like the Industrial Workers of the World, or food banks, or really anything that's actually good praxis lmao, while claiming to be a leftist voice that wants to further leftism in America.

also, they hosted a person on their podcast that neo-nazi Richard Spencer seems to really like, twice

therefore, they are not in fact the "dirtbag left" as they claim to be, but are in fact capitalist pigs who are grifting leftists for their money

i found everything but the John Dolan stuff with like, 30 minutes tops of googling and clicking the first links I'm given by google

so my roommate has been listening to chapo a lot, right

so I'm thinking hey, maybe these guys are good right, my room mate seems to like them

so i go look it up, right

first result I get on google is their Soundcloud, so lets hit it fellow anarcho-syndicalists


drat bro, these guys seem pretty lit
hella viewers, on their top poo poo


lotta viewers on their new stuff too

they seem pretty chill, guess ill listen to their stuff in a bit

whats this star thing tho

oh, it's monetization

repost network, huh? i wonder what their split is, so i look it up

from a random cnet article
https://www.cnet.com/news/soundcloud-widens-monetization-for-paying-artists-make-money-now/

so a 55% split, according to Soundcloud "Soundcloud Premier" = Soundcloud pro so they get 55% split of any and all ad revenue if they monetize their stuff

i cant find a way to check if they monetize their stuff cuz social media companies like Soundcloud don't want people thinking about the money when they view the website as a consumer, so whatevs


whats this Grey Wolf thing, let's check it out

ah cool, its a patreon, i like patreons, they're good for small content creators like this podcast who need funds to keep going but aren't like, big commercial operations
wonder how much they make, maybe ill donate if I like their content, my roommate seems to like them

:bernpop:
thats a lot of loving money monthly for a podcast, thats like 2 million dollars yearly
:bernpop:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200430101951/https://www.patreon.com/chapotraphouse (archive link in case they wisen up and hide their payout)
https://www.patreon.com/chapotraphouse

well, it's 6 people, right, so that's gotta be a pretty low split

ah, wait, $2,000,000 divided by 6 is $333,333.33

each member of chapo trap house gets $333 thousand a year if they have an even split on their podcast(they probably dont) in pure revenue from this patreon

thats pretty crazy bro, i wonder what the yearly take home is for a minimum wage worker in a lovely state that still uses the federal minimum?



drat bro, a chapo team member makes a 2110.4% increase in wage from a minimum wage worker in the rust belt

what about someone living in a state with an actually reasonable minimum wage?



drat bro, a chapo team member makes a 968.38% increase in wage from a minimum wage worker in a reasonable wage state like washington

now, you could say "bro this goes to the behind the scenes people"
what behind the scenes people? if they exist, they aren't credited anywhere on the website, the patreon, or the soundcloud!
the only people I ever see credited for Chapo Trap House stuff are the main six, Will Menaker, Matt Christman, Felix Biederman, Amber A'Lee Frost, Virgil Texas, and Chris Wade.
No behind the scene staff are credited, which means that either
1. they don't exist, and it is just a 6 person show.
2. people aren't getting credited for their work in an easy to find place, or at all!
Since it'd be unlikely that a Dirtbag Left podcast would dick over their workers, they must be the only ones working on the show.

I'm sure these guys like, donate to charity right? they're the dirtbag left, and real dirtbag leftists give back to the world when they have excess cash because we are all suffering under capitalism, and if we can help others not suffer under capitalism temporarily while we work to dismantle it, it is our moral obligation and duty to do so


they uh, seem to not have anything about charity work, or really anything about spending any money on their Wikipedia page

have they just been sitting on all this cash?

like, according to this graph thing
https://graphtreon.com/creator/chapotraphouse
https://web.archive.org/web/20200430123010/https://graphtreon.com/creator/chapotraphouse

they've been making 1.2 million dollars a year minimum on just patreon alone since 2018

poo poo bros, thats a lot of money, I'm sure there's a way to calculate how much money they've earned in total but gently caress if I know how do to that, i just googled "patreon stats" and found this website

anyways, so far we've got, for people keeping score at home
  • 2 million dollars a year comin' in on a patreon, been getting at least 1.2 million a year from the patreon since 2018
  • absolutely no idea where this money goes officially
  • no on record charity work done by chapo trap house at all
  • if we assume an even split, all 6 chapo trap house creators make $333,333.33 a year
  • 2110.4% more than a $7.25 an hour minimum wage worker
  • 968.38% more than a $15.00 an hour minimum wage worker

i dunno about you, but these chapo trap house folks seem kinda sketchy

so I'm thinking "hey, maybe these nerds have a website where they break down what they do with the money right?"


https://web.archive.org/web/20200430124704/http://www.chapotraphouse.com/
so I check out this website and I'm greeted with the following:



the very first things I see on this dirtbag left podcast's website are:
  • an advertisement to purchase tickets for a tour during the corona virus pandemic
  • an advertisement for a book
  • an amazing HTML page with no clutter, proper formatting, and no dumb arbitrary javascript being loaded

seriously, i gotta give credit where credit's due, this is A Good Website from a technical standpoint

the website also sells the image that this is just something some random person cooked up in their spare time, a real "average joe" website, no fancy frills, just gets the job done


take note, the rest of the internet, please, i beg you

at this point however, i make a critical mistake and scroll down

:bernpop:
what kind of loving dirtbag leftists sell on loving AMAZON WILLINGLY, AND BRAG ABOUT IT ON THEIR WEBSITE
:bernpop:

its AMAZON

loving AMAZON

you know, DOESN'T LET THEIR WORKERS USE THE BATHROOM AMAZON
you know, SUPRESSES UNIONS ALL DAY EVERY DAY AMAZON
you know, RUNS COMPLETELY UNSAFE WORKING CONDITIONS AMAZON
you know, FIRES PEOPLE VIA AN AUTOMATED TEXTING SYSTEM BASED ON THE ALMIGHTY NUMBER CRUNCHING MACHINES AMAZON

gamers, dnd readers, c-spammers, anarcho-syndicalists, and other assorted goons, im starting to suspect that maybe these chapo trap house folks aren't entirely practicing what they preach


according to amazon it's 18 bucks for a hard copy, and some googling revealed it was the 6th Bestseller in Nonfiction according to the New York Times listings for it.

I don't know how to find those numbers, so I won't make a book sales estimate, but I can imagine it's a lot.

:bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop:
AND THEY SELL ON AMAZON. AS DIRTBAG LEFTISTS. ON AMAZON. A M A Z O N.
:bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop:


also, there's not even a link to the podcast on this page

like, you know, that thing that they're famous for

it ain't on their web page

two advertisements and a merch store are instead

i check the rest of the site and see a merch store


this is pretty fancy and slick except that its bloated javascript garbage

clearly whoever made the first page didn't make this page, even though its on the same domain

seems like the thin veneer of "we're totally just some random people who made a podcast" disappears the second you hit the money-making part of the website, where we're suddenly back to good old fashioned "leaning tower of javascript" web design that you expect from any corporate website in 2020


I scroll to the bottom and click the privacy policy because I like knowing what happens with my data on websites constructed with more javascript than it needs

OH

:bernpop:
drat bros, this is a pretty big company directly managing Chapo Trap House's merchandise sales, especially since Universal Media Group doesn't run any form of easy to sign up with merch store setup that I can find that a small podcast would be able to take advantage of.
:bernpop:

i spent some time digging and I legit cannot find any information on where UMG gets their merch from production wise

i can only assume they get it the same place every other capitalist pig dog corporation gets it from, slave labor in sweat shops

every time you buy a chapo t-shirt or sweater for 25 bucks a pop, you're supporting a megacorporation who probably had that sweat shirt made with slave labor in a sweatshop

lets update the scoreboard
  • 2 million dollars a year comin' in on a patreon, been getting at least 1.2 million a year from the patreon since 2018
  • an unknown amount of money from amazon sales and other book places
  • an unknown amount of money from merch sales from Universal Media Group who runs their merch site for some reason
  • absolutely no idea where this money goes officially
  • no on record charity work done by chapo trap house at all
  • if we assume an even split, all 6 chapo trap house creators make $333,333.33 a year
  • 2110.4% more than a $7.25 an hour minimum wage worker
  • 968.38% more than a $15.00 an hour minimum wage worker

I think the tour got cancelled otherwise I'd count all that in.

So basically, Chapo Trap House is, as we in the business say, capitalist pig dogs.

Now for the bonus round:
Chapo Trap House had John Dolan on their show not once, but TWICE, both as his alias The War Nerd and his real name. Episodes 203 and 331, despite the fact that John Dolan seems to be a favorite of neo-nazi Richard Spencer.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200430120313/https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-203-cats-18280278
https://web.archive.org/web/20200430121422/https://www.patreon.com/posts/331-wide-world-7-28286336
https://www.patreon.com/posts/331-wide-world-7-28286336
https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-203-cats-18280278

crazy, bros, absolutely crazy that they would have a guy that neo-nazi Richard Spencer seems to love on not just once, but twice, while claiming to be a dirtbag left podcast
absolutely crazy

now, id like to credit https://medium.com/@areidross/from-exile-to-dirtbag-edgelord-geopolitics-and-the-rise-of-national-bolshevism-in-the-u-s-84822021b0e8 for all this info


John Dolan receives praise from Daryush Valizadeh, also known as Roosh V, a disgusting rapist fucker who sells books to other disgusting rapist fuckers to tell them how to rape women easier. He's not a good person.
Not really a thrilling endorsement for someone on Chapo Trap House.


Praise from RICHARD SPENCER. An actual, legitimate neo-nazi.
Are you not sure who Richard Spencer is?
Here's a refresher.


At least this nazi got punched in the face.

The final scorecard:
  • 2 million dollars a year comin' in on a patreon, been getting at least 1.2 million a year from the patreon since 2018
  • an unknown amount of money from amazon sales and other book places
  • an unknown amount of money from merch sales from universal media group who runs their site for some reason
  • absolutely no idea where this money goes officially
  • no on record charity work done by chapo trap house at all
  • if we assume an even split, all 6 chapo trap house creators make $333,333.33 a year
  • 2110.4% more than a $7.25 an hour minimum wage worker
  • 968.38% more than a $15.00 an hour minimum wage worker
  • Had a guy on multiple times that neo-nazi Richard Spencer seems to really like.

Fellow goons, I think it's safe to say that Chapo Trap House is not actually leftists, and are infact capitalist pig grifters who have neo-nazis on their platforms multiple times.
They are not "the working class", or just your average joes. They're rich capitalists who get business deals, sell merch, and host Richard Spencer's favorite people, while turning in over 2 million a year in documented profit.

If you've been giving them money, you're being grifted.

Stop giving your money to Chapo Trap House. Give your money to the Industrial Workers Of The World instead.

https://iww.org/

uncle wemus

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

Gripweed posted:

I've always wanted to play a Warhammer, and even painted some dudes, but never found the time or energy to complete an entire army or find people to play with. Thuis quarantine has driven me so loopy and reminded me of my mortality to the point that I just ordered the Blood Bowl starter. I will paint both teams and take the whole thing down to my closest game store and come hell or highwater I will complete at least one game of fantasy football.

same but limited run black metal cassettes

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

lol why are they always anarchists

because i have better things to do than enjoy other timewasting activities than look for dogbrain auth-left shitposts and cspam caters to maximalist edgelords. (i am also a maximalist edgelord but for a different denomination)

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011

How the hell do you do the "had a guest that Richard Spencer likes" thing and somehow it's not Nagle?

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

T-man posted:

because i have better things to do than enjoy other timewasting activities than look for dogbrain auth-left shitposts and cspam caters to maximalist edgelords. (i am also a maximalist edgelord but for a different denomination)

calling them "auth-left" is giving them too much credit; they're getting their donkey brains copypasta from another dipshit

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Goast posted:

is this activism

it is, and it's working:

forkboy84 posted:

OP, you've done a sterling job making me chronically embarrassed about being anarchist adjacent.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Doc Hawkins posted:

it is, and it's working:
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Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I'm a podcastist

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


I can't believe commies and anarchos in this day and age haven't learned to appreciate mutual dissing and trolling between one another

(always remember that the serious anarchist is the first to tell everyone else that they are authoritarian assholes when reds roast them off)

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


also

https://twitter.com/loch_northern/status/1256012325959503877/photo/1

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
haha yes i love it when they come at the exiled guys

isn't the IWW just a bunch of cosplayers, join and organize a real union

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
Enjoying the new T-Man posting arc

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!



they've done nothing to deserve you defending them, and nothing they have to say reflects on anarchism

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Homeless Friend posted:

Enjoying the new T-Man posting arc

Season 11 needs a big finisher for sweeps

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
that's not how t-man works

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Shipon posted:

haha yes i love it when they come at the exiled guys

isn't the IWW just a bunch of cosplayers, join and organize a real union

your mileage varies wildly from organization to organization

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice
Thinking that Richard Spencer unironically liking Gary Brecher somehow reflects badly on Chapo, who very clearly had on an out of character John Dolan, is the funniest thing I've read in a while, thank you very much.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
A4R8 getting jokerfied by the Bernie loss also another good cspam thread imo

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

not most anarchists but there's a weird group of people who have been pushing the "chapo are red-brown" thing

https://twitter.com/Term20201/status/1251963854004736002

lol I just saw you quoting this in the War Nerd thread, but for everyone not there, here's a good deep dive into the roots of this liberal anarchism. It's intellectual foundation was literally funded by the US government as a way to help incite neoliberal revolutions. It's long but worthwhile, and the War Nerd had the author on as a guest.

https://nonsite.org/article/change-agent-gene-sharps-neoliberal-nonviolence-part-one
https://nonsite.org/feature/change-agent-gene-sharps-neoliberal-nonviolence-part-two

I do want to clarify that while I clown on anarchists, not all of them subscribe to this bullshit.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
Young Orc

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
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Young Orc

are we sure liz isnt posting with a russian accent tho?

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Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
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Young Orc
for real tho what happned to virgil

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