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Qrr posted:Oh right, that whole releasing all the Malice thing. That doesn't seem like it's done a whole lot to Japan, huh? Something tells me this plot point will never come up again.  So are we going to get to play as the Mutant Apes anymore or will they only come into their full power when they inevitably become game bosses? Probably the latter. I'm surprised that what with the FF7 remake just coming out, no one has commented (until Id at the end of the latest update) on the name of Kato's science lab yet. "Hojo Research Institute"? Homage or common name in the Japanese anime mad science industry? And Karin is now using Yuri's mother's name as an assumed identity. Interesting. I'm wondering why they don't bring up that Imperial Japan was technically neutral in WW1 though, and at the time didn't want to get involved with politics half a world away, so why would they care about German deserters hiding in their country? Or am I wrong about this political stance? Someone more familiar with the history can correct me if you like. Oh well, assumed name means Karin can stick with the party for now, I guess. They don't have to turn her in as a German war criminal or as a deserter- not that the German army has really been looking for her at all that we've seen. Raiden knows when people are talking poo poo, but Kato is still his master. Hmm.
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Gorilla dicks are actually quite small. And now you know.
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achtungnight posted:Something tells me this plot point will never come up again. In order- Totally comes up again! In From the New World Yes. I remember looking into it on the 2005 internet and not seeing any sort of historical mad scientist that either Hojo was named for, but I mean that was the 2005 internet. Whole other internet.
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Hwurmp posted:Gorilla dicks are actually quite small. And now you know. Isnt that due to gorillas' fighting style being 'go for the weak points, this includes ripping their dicks off'?
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May 1, 2020 03:23
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That is a lie that many gorillas tell, mainly out of insecurity.
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achtungnight posted:"Hojo Research Institute"? Homage or common name in the Japanese anime mad science industry? Looking up the name, nothing obviously science related comes up, so probably a reference, since FFVII came out 7-ish years earlier. The Dark Id posted:Municipal buildings closed the weekend and all that. "closed for the weekend"?
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The Dark Id posted:Note that five million volts would instantly vaporize someone like War of the Worlds lasers or some poo poo. Youtube has videos of people experimenting with high voltage (100 000 to 1 million volts) transmitted through their bodies.
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achtungnight posted:And Karin is now using Yuri's mother's name as an assumed identity. Interesting. I'm wondering why they don't bring up that Imperial Japan was technically neutral in WW1 though, and at the time didn't want to get involved with politics half a world away, so why would they care about German deserters hiding in their country? Or am I wrong about this political stance? Someone more familiar with the history can correct me if you like. Oh well, assumed name means Karin can stick with the party for now, I guess. They don't have to turn her in as a German war criminal or as a deserter- not that the German army has really been looking for her at all that we've seen. Japan definitely wasn't neutral during WW1, they were allied with the Entente. As you might expect, it wasn't one of their larger roles in world history, but they did take over some German holdings and generally made sure they didn't get a foothold. So it's probably not a good idea for Karin to tell people on the street that she's German military. I mean, this party acts on bad ideas all the time, but I guess this one is too much even for them. That, or some of the smarter members of the party finally got their way.
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EggsAisle posted:Japan definitely wasn't neutral during WW1, they were allied with the Entente. As you might expect, it wasn't one of their larger roles in world history, but they did take over some German holdings and generally made sure they didn't get a foothold. So it's probably not a good idea for Karin to tell people on the street that she's German military. I mean, this party acts on bad ideas all the time, but I guess this one is too much even for them. That, or some of the smarter members of the party finally got their way. Well Anastasia kind of just did it without actually asking or telling Karin, so she wasn't given an opportunity to object. It was still a good move, mind you, by one of the smarter members of the party.
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May 1, 2020 07:01
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Is Karin an instantly recognizably German name? In early 1900s Japan?
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May 1, 2020 09:21
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That whole passport bit makes me think someone watched a bit too much "Half-life VR, but the AI is sentient"
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Qrr posted:Is Karin an instantly recognizably German name? In early 1900s Japan? She'd look out of place on general principle, and Her full name would be on the documents. "Koenig" is most definitely gonna get flagged as German, even if her first name isn't.
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I still am not sure where the “ape” part comes in with the Mutant Apes. If they were clones, why use apes when only one of them has any non-hominid ape features? And even that one is just a buff, ugly guy with bad posture while the other is an anime ninja with a ridiculous blade and the last is a supermodel in fetish gear.
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“Apes” is probably a derogatory term to remind people, including Kato, that the clones are not human and in fact lesser beings. Witness the attitude of Kato’s boss towards them. Recall that casual racism has furthered such terms for millennia and that it’s very much present in Imperial Japan.
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Apes likely isn't meant to be a physical description, but to refer to their "Hear no, See no, Speak no" titles.
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Alternatively, we end up fighting each one individually, at which point they all combine into Sun Wukong or something. Complete with the extending staff. Joachim gets it as a weapon after.
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they were made in a lab, so they can't be human despite their looks. instead, they are apes that somewhat resemble humans. going by that earlier conversation between kato and the couch dude, the dehumanizing nomenclature is deliberate.
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I can accept the dehumanizing name, but why not just call them the Mutant Squad or Undead Weapons or Cursed Soldiers among so many other options? The ape part just seems inexplicable when you already have “mutant” to degrade them with in a more accurate way.
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Sillipenda posted:Apes likely isn't meant to be a physical description, but to refer to their "Hear no, See no, Speak no" titles. It's this.
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The Dark Kato Crew
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Hwurmp posted:The Dark Kato Crew I dislike Okua Kong's render.
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Qrr posted:Is Karin an instantly recognizably German name? In early 1900s Japan? The fun thing is that Anne would be a more common german name for the time period than Karin.
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Zagglezig posted:Looking up the name, nothing obviously science related comes up, so probably a reference, since FFVII came out 7-ish years earlier. Mostly likely a reference from the localisation yeah - although without asking them that's not 100%. FF7's Hojo is 宝条 "Houjou" SH's "Hojo" is 藤堂 "Toudou" - unless there's a linguistic thing going on, pretty sure the Hojo name is probably a localisation thing.  And yeah, Toudou doesn't seem to have any science connection, similar to Hojo though, it's the name of one of the samurai clans.
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CVE posted:The fun thing is that Anne would be a more common german name for the time period than Karin. "It's short for Anastasia".
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Yuri shouldn't need a passport, as he's the only member of this band of weirdos (Kurando aside) who should have Japanese citizenship.
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Spending a couple decades as a murder hobo driven by screaming voices in your head tends to do a number on your ability to hold onto personal documents, it turns out.
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And who's the say his father actually got Yuri properly registered, far as we know Mr. Hyuga might've just hosed off and never bothered to tell anyone in Japan his whereabouts.
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Depending on how imperial Japan handled citizenship, it's possible that Yuri wouldn't automatically be considered one, especially if he was born abroad. Countries can have all kinds of rules and bureaucracy to piss around with even today; a century and change ago would probably have been even worse.
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So the weird thing is that the pre-WW1 era in Europe saw a huge relaxation of border controls. It was too much work to vet everyone's paperwork with the much faster and greater volume of travel afforded by the rail network; passports were fairly uncommon because on the eve of WW1 Europe resembled the Schengen Area of today's EU. Of course the party's statelessness doesn't make sense during WW1 but details.
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EggsAisle posted:Depending on how imperial Japan handled citizenship, it's possible that Yuri wouldn't automatically be considered one, especially if he was born abroad. Countries can have all kinds of rules and bureaucracy to piss around with even today; a century and change ago would probably have been even worse. Modern day Japan at least has jus sanguinis citizenship, so Yuri would be covered assuming he ever set foot in Japan before his 20th birthday.
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He lived in Japan at least until his mother died.
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ultrafilter posted:He lived in Japan at least until his mother died. no, that was russia.
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Geostomp posted:I still am not sure where the “ape” part comes in with the Mutant Apes. If they were clones, why use apes when only one of them has any non-hominid ape features? And even that one is just a buff, ugly guy with bad posture while the other is an anime ninja with a ridiculous blade and the last is a supermodel in fetish gear. ~In the Japanese version~ they're called The Three Monkeys, in reference to the The Hear No Evil/See No Evil/Speak No Evil monkeys, an iconography that originates in Japan. The localization team probably felt "Mutant Apes" sounds more menacing than "Three Monkeys" (it also helps that Mutant Apes is fewer characters than Three Monkeys, I guess). (Ape is also probably more accurate because none of them have tails)
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Okay, I get that the evil book gave Kato access to necromancy and he seems to know some other sorcery as well now, but I don't think it covered cybernetics. Japan in this universe is weirdly high-tech for its time.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:no, that was russia. China. ‘Swhy Dehuai was able to send zombies in so easily
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CmdrKing posted:China. ‘Swhy Dehuai was able to send zombies in so easily Probably the Liaodong Peninsula in Manchuria, which in Yuri's lifetime was at various times part of China, Japan, and Russia 
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I’m not sure if it’s a good sign that one of the smartest members of the party is the 14 year old child.
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jimmydalad posted:I’m not sure if it’s a good sign that one of the smartest members of the party is the 14 year old child. Is it better or worse than the other one being a non-speaking wolf?
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jimmydalad posted:I’m not sure if it’s a good sign that one of the smartest members of the party is the 14 year old child. It's a JRPG. The smartest party member is almost always going to be the young precocious child.
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jimmydalad posted:I’m not sure if it’s a good sign that one of the smartest members of the party is the 14 year old child. Given that she's a member of a royal family, she is very likely the most highly educated person in the party. I guess Joachim's family are rich folks too, but he strikes me as a very "Got a C- in everything but Gym" type of person.
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