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Mekchu posted:Is it OK if we threaten to kill Megyn Kelly's kids because she lied on the news and thus probably lied about Roger Aile's sexual harassment? What about the kids of Gretchen Carlson? Gabriel Sherman? They all lied at different points on TV so we have proof they're just big old liars right?
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mr whistler posted:She was trying to get the story out right after Super Tuesday when it became clear that Bernie was in trouble: That tweet is because she thought Times Up would represent her, hence the 'ticking' reference. Not that she was timing the story in a strategic way.
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May 3, 2020 14:07
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VitalSigns posted:When they accuse a democrat politician duh Sorry, but I would like to hear the reasoning from the people defending rapists, not those arguing to defend the victims of rape.
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May 3, 2020 14:11
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Also, "the rape victim decided to tell her story - and hence open herself up to what would be an unpleasant battle - when different avenues of stopping the rapist started to look like they would fail, therefore she is not to be trusted" is one hell of a take.
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May 3, 2020 14:12
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Amazing watching libs turn into rape denialist Republicans in real time.
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May 3, 2020 14:15
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May 3, 2020 14:22
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I just want anyone who thinks Tara Reade or any other accuser is lying to realize how much harassment and how many death threats reward such an accusation vs how often they bring the accused to justice. Dr. Ford’s story should be illustrative, if people are gonna keep using it as a counter example. She had to endure months of that kind of treatment, publicly litigate her abuse, and had Republicans directly and nastily interrogate her. And for what? To see her rapist coronated anyway That’s where “believe women” comes from. The incentive to keep your mouth shut and let the people who harm you get awarded higher office is painfully real. That’s why they should be supported and believed, to do otherwise is more likely than not contributing to real monsterism. I wish brainlords who think medium posts from grifters are sufficient reason to cast doubt on a survivor’s story would realize their own incentives to shut up
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May 3, 2020 14:24
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The double standards are incredible, not just because it's from the same people who believed Dr Ford on even less evidence, but just the double standards for Reade and Biden Some blog claims Reade lied to a landlord once so she is a liar and it proves everything she says is a lie. Meanwhile Biden is a racist sexist piece of poo poo his entire life, who gropes and harasses women constantly and lies about everything, but that doesn't prove he assaulted one particular woman or that he he's lying about this. Gotta ignore personal character and give the benefit of the doubt (only to the man)
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May 3, 2020 14:33
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VitalSigns posted:The double standards are incredible, not just because it's from the same people who believed Dr Ford on even less evidence, but just the double standards for Reade and Biden In the interest of fairness, if the genders were reversed people would be calling Terry Reade horrible things as well and defending Jolene Biden, because the crux of the point boils down to that Biden is in some form right because that is the person facing Trump. Same with if it was Chris Ford accusing Britt Kavanaugh of things.
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May 3, 2020 14:38
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I think if the genders were reversed things would definitely be different but only because approximately 80% of the planet thinks its impossible for a woman to sexually assualt a man.
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May 3, 2020 14:40
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Endorph posted:I think if the genders were reversed things would definitely be different but only because approximately 80% of the planet thinks its impossible for a woman to sexually assualt a man. They don't even think it's possible for a woman to sexually assault a boy
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May 3, 2020 14:41
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VitalSigns posted:The double standards are incredible, not just because it's from the same people who believed Dr Ford on even less evidence, but just the double standards for Reade and Biden It's also worse for Biden to lie, if we're looking at it this way, because with his years of public office he should be held to a higher standard than most of the country.
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May 3, 2020 14:43
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Condiv posted:Amazing watching libs turn into rape denialist Republicans in real time. Democrats are the party of BlueMAGA now and we're not even close to Biden's general election rightward pivot. There's still six months to go and they are only going to get worse.
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May 3, 2020 14:45
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It’s also just incredible that we know he’s gropey and invasive and we know he’s a notorious liar there is literally photo evidence of him demonstrating creepy boundary crossing behavior. A year ago he was getting called out for this stuff and basically responded with “lol”. That anyone can look at this guy and say with confidence “yep, he’s obviously innocent” is absurd to me
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May 3, 2020 14:50
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mr whistler posted:Except Dr. Blasey Ford doesn't have this history of lying, manipulation, and repeated accusations of harassment against people that somehow wronged her. Again, we'll never know exactly what happened. Could be that Dr. Blasey Ford is lying and Reade is telling the truth. But if one has to make a useful judgement in politics, I know which I feel is more likely to be telling the truth. Joe Biden is a rapist and him and his supporters continuously perpetuate rape culture in this country.
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May 3, 2020 14:52
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It's like we're seeing the whole 'Outspoken woke liberal 'ally' turns out to be rapist/rapist enabler' narrative play out for an entire political party.
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May 3, 2020 14:57
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misadventurous posted:It’s also just incredible that we know he’s gropey and invasive and we know he’s a notorious liar there is literally photo evidence of him demonstrating creepy boundary crossing behavior. A year ago he was getting called out for this stuff and basically responded with “lol”. That anyone can look at this guy and say with confidence “yep, he’s obviously innocent” is absurd to me #believeallwomen, except when they levy accusations against a person with a noted and documented past of creeping on women and children in photos and on video. Then they're a russian asset and not trustworthy. It's absurd on its face. If they actually believed he was innocent and wanted him to win on his merits, they would be calling for a truly independent investigation. They'd be fuming to get a hearing in Congress. Instead, they're sending threats to Tara Reid because they kneejerk so hard they don't even attack the right person. It's the same poo poo Republicans do and it's loving disgusting. I'm glad they went full mask off because I now know not to give a loving inch of a benefit of doubt.
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May 3, 2020 15:00
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mr whistler posted:There is no contemporaneous reports of her telling anyone about sexual assault, let alone sexual harassment. The Larry King call just said she had a problem with her boss. To me, it seems at least equally plausible she was fired for being a bad employee and made up a story as to why she was fired. She's done it in the past (see: the horse story, her other lying). It's ludicrous to frame your take as radical skepticism, when it's entirely contingent on this fantasy that a powerless women with no means would accuse one of the most powerful figures in the world for.. attention? Just look at the way you dismissed the Larry King call. The context here is that the mother purposefully tried to be as vague as possible, as she was doing it without Tara's permission, but the substance of it is that she implies it was a problem big enough that the media would be interested. The fantasy goes full-bore here when you posit that it makes sense that a women, after being fired for being a bad employee, would lie to their parents that they were sexually assaulted. KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 15:07 on May 3, 2020 |
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May 3, 2020 15:02
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The hashtag resist liberals turned into r/incel MRA guys in a matter of days.
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May 3, 2020 15:03
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dex_sda posted:#believeallwomen, except when they levy accusations against a person with a noted and documented past of creeping on women and children in photos and on video. Then they're a russian asset and not trustworthy. They're so confident Biden is innocent they're asking the FBI to investigate the reporters over the belief they are colluding with Russia and not openly sharing the Biden Senate Records pertaining to Reade. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 15:08 on May 3, 2020 |
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May 3, 2020 15:05
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:The hashtag resist liberals turned into r/incel MRA guys in a matter of days. Being a poor woman trying to survive is karening now
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May 3, 2020 15:05
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To say that Joe Biden hasn't been vetted is not accurate. He has been repeatedly since he first ran for President in 1988 and has been found fundamentally unfit for the office each time. It is only in the Trump era that Democratic media, taste makers, and primary voters were willing to temporarily erase his well documented disqualifying history and replace it in their minds with the image of Generic Democrat long enough hand him the nomination. His return to normalcy, much like every other promise he has made to anyone with less than seven figures, is a bold faced lie. A Biden nomination and Biden Presidency could absolutely not exist in a "normal" America.
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May 3, 2020 15:07
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If Biden running for President is indication he has been "vetted" then so has Bernie and so has Trump. The two people Biden supporters claim haven't been vetted.
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May 3, 2020 15:09
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It is very cool to watch the Democratic Party undermine themselves on every principle they ostensibly stand for, thereby proving leftists correct that liberals will stab you in the front every single time if given half a chance, all for the sake of Joe loving Biden. A guy who has never been anyone's first choice on the national stage and who would be languishing in Senatorial obscurity if not for Barack Obama's need to prove to racist white people that he is a trustworthy Magical Negro. Democrats will stick around because 30-40% of the country will still vote Democrat out of reflex but any sense that the Democratic Party will be able to effect long lasting, tangible, and positive change on the national level is all but dead. Start organizing locally people, if you aren't already.
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May 3, 2020 15:20
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mr whistler posted:You mean the part where she stole from a charity, lied about it, refused to pay back the money, and then defamed them on twitter with made-up charges of animal neglect after she got caught? sometimes bad things do happen to bad people. I'm inclined to believe tara reade because of the neighbor. Why would she tell a neighbor in 95? Is this some sort of extremely elaborate long con?
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Mat Cauthon posted:It is very cool to watch the Democratic Party undermine themselves on every principle they ostensibly stand for, thereby proving leftists correct that liberals will stab you in the front every single time if given half a chance, all for the sake of Joe loving Biden.
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May 3, 2020 15:27
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:The hashtag resist liberals turned into r/incel MRA guys in a matter of days. TBF it's not entirely unsurprising that the most hardcore supporters of the party that really wants to be the Republicans would eventually become indistinguishable from MAGA chuds. Up to and including fanatically supporting their rapist to own the
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May 3, 2020 15:36
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Iron Twinkie posted:To say that Joe Biden hasn't been vetted is not accurate. He has been repeatedly since he first ran for President in 1988 and has been found fundamentally unfit for the office each time. It is only in the Trump era that Democratic media, taste makers, and primary voters were willing to temporarily erase his well documented disqualifying history and replace it in their minds with the image of Generic Democrat long enough hand him the nomination. His return to normalcy, much like every other promise he has made to anyone with less than seven figures, is a bold faced lie. A Biden nomination and Biden Presidency could absolutely not exist in a "normal" America. I was thinking about this yesterday. There are people out there that have had the experience of not voting for Biden any number of times. This whole situation has really shown me a lot about what the Democrats are really like. Its terrible because they chose Biden. They had to get the entire party to work against the one guy that might actually help the climate and the poor because they didn't want to give up even a modicum of their power or ability to grift money from donors. This whole situation is showing me that it isn't choosing the right guy for the job. Its all about choosing the guy that keeps the status quo in place. I believe Tara. I think the records should be unsealed and people should sift through them. We have many months of this bullshit ahead of us that all could have been avoided had they chosen a different liberal.
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May 3, 2020 15:53
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This isn't even surprising, bunch of liberals defended Al Franken too, even here And there was photographic evidence of him harassing Tweeden
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May 3, 2020 16:00
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mr whistler posted:And yes, is it at least theoretically possible that she's lying? Is it worth considering that she might be, given everything else she has lied about in her life? No. You will NEVER have a perfect victim. Pick any victim of crime anywhere, and you will be able to dig up something in their past that makes you think "hmm sure maybe they're telling the truth this time, but look at this information about a time they did something wrong! Concerning!" Basically you're doing this Matt Bors comic:  "I believe women, so long as they are paragons of virtue" is not much better than "Cops shouldn't brutalize black people, but that thug had it coming." Be less of a trash person.
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May 3, 2020 16:18
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VitalSigns posted:The double standards are incredible, not just because it's from the same people who believed Dr Ford on even less evidence, but just the double standards for Reade and Biden Definitely. Biden's lies just get accepted because it's part of the game I guess. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/01/if-trump-is-a-pathological-liar-what-type-of-liar-is-biden/ quote:Beyond his lies about his policy record, Biden has repeatedly lied with the intent of making himself appear to be honorable. He has often lied about how “he got involved in the Civil Rights movement” and how “he marched in the Civil Rights movement,” despite videos of him admitting this to be untrue. Also to court African American voters, he has repeatedly lied about getting arrested in South Africa attempting to visit Nelson Mandela in prison, an assertion that he has now admitted is untrue. quote:One of the lesser-known Biden lies may not be as significant a lie for some journalists, but it is a lie that speaks loudly about Biden’s character—or lack thereof. Perhaps it is just me, but I find it especially pathetic when someone exploits family tragedy for political purposes with a lie that creates personal tragedy for someone else. Biden is a pathological liar, even pulling a Trump here with his grades. He's had a presidential campaign ended because of his lying, and this one should have ended too if Trump wasn't...Trump.
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May 3, 2020 16:19
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Libs are gonna sacrifice what's left of their sanity and integrity to beat Trump. Wonder how they're gonna handle it when they lose again?
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is pepsi ok posted:Libs are gonna sacrifice what's left of their sanity and integrity to beat Trump. Wonder how they're gonna handle it when they lose again? They'll put their #MeToo hashtags back up and pretend it never happened, probably. It's not like they have anything remotely approaching shame. We might get a few more Peter Daou-style conversions out of it. Watching people get more and more radicalized as centrism fails them has been good, though I wish it was happening faster.
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is pepsi ok posted:Libs are gonna sacrifice what's left of their sanity and integrity to beat Trump. Wonder how they're gonna handle it when they lose again? there are routes for biden to win but tbh I wouldn't be shocked if they sacrificed what's left just to lose again. Biden's strategy of 'just hide' isn't gonna last forever
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is pepsi ok posted:Libs are gonna sacrifice what's left of their sanity and integrity to beat Trump. Wonder how they're gonna handle it when they lose again? In no particular order: - Blame Bernie Sanders & those who were his base (eg. left) - Also blame the Tara Reade story and put her on blast - Insinuate Russia was involved with both Bernie & Reade - Pretend that #MeToo still matters and should be fought for aggressively - Complain that the centrists should have been courted by the Dems as its proof that the Left aren't their allies anymore - Explain that Medicare For All was a terrible dream and will never work as evidence by the loss - Biden, the most progressive presidential candidate ever, failed because progressivism doesn't work with US voters - Fire various reporters for having spoken out against the Democratic party/MSM networks
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At this point, supporting Brett Kavanaugh is a more morally defensible position than supporting Joe Biden. Accusations aside, at least people thought they were saving babies. Wtf could sacrificing your values possibly gain you from Joe “Don’t vote for me” Biden? A man so unwilling to act he’s rather lose your vote than give you anything.
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May 3, 2020 16:41
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Mekchu posted:In no particular order: I really don't feel like the left has any real allies anymore. It seems like the democrats have nothing but disdain for us and our ideals. I too have a very strong feeling that I am going to be blamed...again...for a loss if it happens. Last time I voted for Clinton and they still were angry with me for being a Sanders supporter. If I was on social media I bet it would have been pretty aggravating. This time I just can't vote for Biden. It is his status quo that brought us Trump. What happens if he wins. We get 2 years before the republicans take the house of room temperature neo liberal policies and then we get a repeat of the Obama presidency but with less competency. My only hope here is that the people Biden is saying he wants to put into positions in his cabinet just aren't true.
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we should be legally allowed to swirlie these people https://twitter.com/TheGigconomist/status/1256757469776351234
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is pepsi ok posted:Libs are gonna sacrifice what's left of their sanity and integrity to beat Trump. Wonder how they're gonna handle it when they lose again? They will go out to a nice restaurant and enjoy brunch. This is assuming the pandemic is over though 
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The playbook to defend powerful men is always the same Sexual assault is real and women should be believed, except this assault and this woman, she is crazy and doing it for attention and giving all the real victims a bad name. We have to slander and defame her to protect those other women (who we will also slander and defame for not being perfect enough to be victims) You will get jam every other day, ladies
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