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mlmp08 posted:if it means they might have 1% more freedom to buy a certain model of firearm. This is like nearly every white dude in the Army
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Discussion Quorum posted:So Texas reopened* on Friday. The result has been an almost immediate change in behavior. I see a lot more people without masks and even got an odd look from my neighbors that basically said "why are you still wearing that thing?" Said neighbors were clearly on their way to a pool party with some friends. Did curbside at Best Buy yesterday and overheard a lady asking why they were "still closed." Everything's fine, didn't you hear? Yeah, we are "open" mostly in name only. I have also noticed some people pretty much take the "opening" as the go ahead to start mingling like everything is fine. In about 2 weeks we will be locked down again with more cases.
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Bored As gently caress posted:I really wonder what would be happening if we had a competent president and if we had a strong unified message across all levels of government. I doubt we'd be having these protests if that was the case. Yep. I'd argue that the protests would be even worse, as the protestors would be raging against a Democratic Antichrist president. Which is all the more reason I'm pissed off at Trump, as he could contain a lot of this bullshit if he would yell at his supporters to stay the gently caress home. But alas, cheddarbrain. Also, y'all should go look at those CDC documents that just leaked to the NYT - they basically know poo poo's getting worse and is probably close to an explosion. I can't link it here for reasons, but someone else here could!
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facialimpediment posted:Yep. I'd argue that the protests would be even worse, as the protestors would be raging against a Democratic Antichrist president. Which is all the more reason I'm pissed off at Trump, as he could contain a lot of this bullshit if he would yell at his supporters to stay the gently caress home. But alas, cheddarbrain. Here's the text: quote:The Trump administration projects about 3,000 daily deaths by early June. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/04/us/coronavirus-updates.html Here is the PDF link to the full CDC report: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6926-mayhhsbriefing/af7319f4a55fd0ce5dc9/optimized/full.pdf#page=1
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https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/4/21246378/carnival-cruises-resume-date-trips-city-ports-cancellation-offersquote:Carnival has announced that it will resume some of its cruises on August 1st. Trips will resume on eight ships leaving from Miami and Port Canaveral, Florida, and Galveston, Texas, according to Reuters. They're gonna go bankrupt so soon
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May 4, 2020 17:21
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Here's the text: I do risk for a living. My firm advises some of the biggest financial, defense, pharmaceutical and energy partnerships in the country. The closer to capital you get, the less political things get, and the more freely information is shared. Everything I see professionally is projecting the same thing. We're going to see a 300k+ dead by Christmas of this year. Mostly in the southern/midwestern states that are just bullrushing into reopening. These places are sacrificing their people at the altar of unproven and unreliable economic recovery, and it's high bullshit.
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Re: Venezuelan Mercenaries "Fifteen brown-colored helmets were manufactured by High-End Defense Solutions, a Miami-based military equipment vendor owned by a Venezuelan immigrant family. [...] Company owner Mark Von Reitzenstein did not respond to repeated email and phone requests seeking comment." It's like the loving joke tweet.
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Immanentized posted:I do risk for a living. My firm advises some of the biggest financial, defense, pharmaceutical and energy partnerships in the country. The closer to capital you get, the less political things get, and the more freely information is shared. For sure, and rushing to reopen is such a pointless and idiotic exercise. People treat it like driving to work when there is ten feet of snow on the road.
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May 4, 2020 17:31
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Suicide Watch posted:https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/4/21246378/carnival-cruises-resume-date-trips-city-ports-cancellation-offers That may likely be true, especially as they have no revenue coming in and massive ships idling. I wonder if their strategy of not being US flagged will be a fatal blow, as that kept them from grabbing early relief funds and there isn't much political support for bailing out a foreign owned firm. Especially as they are in no way an essential business.
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facialimpediment posted:Yep. I'd argue that the protests would be even worse, as the protestors would be raging against a Democratic Antichrist president. Which is all the more reason I'm pissed off at Trump, as he could contain a lot of this bullshit if he would yell at his supporters to stay the gently caress home. But alas, cheddarbrain. 9/11/01 death tolls every day indefinitely. Fabulous.
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https://twitter.com/abc/status/1257344749784137732?s=21 Just a protestor. Can’t wait to hear about his hobbies and favorite foods.
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Immanentized posted:I do risk for a living. My firm advises some of the biggest financial, defense, pharmaceutical and energy partnerships in the country. The closer to capital you get, the less political things get, and the more freely information is shared. Hey even in the non-open early states, people still aren't taking poo poo seriously. My wife woke me up this morning to tell me one of her techs texted her saying she had been hanging out with a friend who's mom was now showing symptoms and she wondered if she should not come in or not. I lost my cool and told her she should fire the tech because she's repeatedly done stupid poo poo like this (she's ignored PPE protocol several times, bragged about going to parties during this, etc) and they work in a medical environment (veterinary medicine), so she's needlessly putting people who need to come in at risk. Fortunately her bosses stepped in, got another tech to come in and told the other one to stay away for awhile. I'm just so tired of this poo poo. Also my company told us to continue working from home through June 30 even if our local or state govs lift stay at home orders. From the wording of the email, it sounds like they think June 30 is just a placeholder for now.
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If we had all not been stupid, we would be done dealing with it right now. I wish chuds (and stupid non-chuds) had the self awareness to realize if they had spent the last 30 days (or even the first 30 days) staying in the loving house, we would easily have gotten over the worst. The coronavirus has a guaranteed vaccine for people who haven’t caught it yet, but we gotta get haircuts instead.
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Handsome Ralph posted:I'm just so tired of this poo poo. Someone mentioned today that we're basically handling this thing like a school shooting - thoughts and prayers but oh well, nothing we can do, time to accept it and go onto what we were doing and hope it doesn't come for us! Also that for a solid chunk of conservatives, their entire concept of operations is "gently caress off, you don't get to tell me what to do" usually immediately preceding a "go after *them* damnit!" Then usually some JESUS NEVER WORE A MASK OR CLOSED CHURCHES when Christianity basically originated in people's homes, non-public.
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May 4, 2020 18:10
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The teachings of Jesus, as I, a heathen, understand them, are pretty secular in nature and can be summarized with “don’t be an rear end in a top hat to people and take care of each other.” The GOP does not know the same Jesus.
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A dude telling people "Hey don't be an rear end in a top hat" and actually being listened to getting merc'd by wealthy elites is an extremely plausible story TBF
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Woofer posted:I don’t think we would be in this position at all. The US is a really lovely country but I think we did a lot to keep things in check. I agree with you on this. In the last 10 years SARS, MERS, Ebola, and Zika got stamped out without even a vaccine. The US provided support to each of the countries that these flared up in. The CDC provided research, tests, and tools. The US Public Health Service picked up tent hospital packages from the military and deployed to the hot spots. In every other plague, the US had the back for every other country, no question, no hesitation. Until this one.
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shame on an IGA posted:A dude telling people "Hey don't be an rear end in a top hat" and actually being listened to getting merc'd by wealthy elites is an extremely plausible story TBF Something like that already happened, unfortunately. https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1257306327769964544?s=20 Michigan security guard shot and killed after asking Family Dollar shopper to wear a mask https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/michigan-security-guard-shot-and-killed-after-asking-family-dollar-shopper-to-wear-a-mask I'm legit worried that there's going to be a lot more stories like this coming up. Had a cop once threaten to punch me in a McDonald's if I yelled at him for being an rear end in a top hat and endangering people. We weren't in a McDonald's at the time. He thought it was a good hypothetical while he was berating me for getting jumped in a bar (that I just retired from) for yelling at people being assholes. The bartender asked for my help in dealing with them, and the guys who jumped me got dogpiled. But, in happier memories. https://twitter.com/nascarman_rr/status/1257273179388723200?s=20
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Well it was Flint, so you have about a 1 in 3....hahaha who am I loving kidding.  Someone is kind enough to track some twitter meltdowns for this year's meltdown may. I'm expecting it to be one for the ages. https://twitter.com/SAMOYEDCORE/status/1256461321333137409
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Brute Squad posted:But, in happier memories. Given that the pace car was a Firebird I'm wondering if this wasn't viral marketing for Smokey and the Bandit 4. ( I know that there was never a Smokey and the Bandit 4)
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1) That new CDC model was bad/incomplete and CDC never should've included it in any kind of official slide deck (I believe this, as the CDC has been hollowed the gently caress out of anyone with a brain) https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1257392630331293696 2) The White House is using really bad models and idiotic assumptions made by poo poo economists including the Dow 36,000 creator https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1257395401461727232 3) The IHME model is finally catching up to how lovely we did and adjusted to 135,000 deaths from 72,000.
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Bored As gently caress posted:I really wonder what would be happening if we had a competent president and if we had a strong unified message across all levels of government. I doubt we'd be having these protests if that was the case. It certainly seems that the virus was circulating worldwide at the end of December at the very earliest. For all of dumbfuck’s China bashing, the CCP bears some responsibility for not alerting the world sooner and likely downplaying/keeping the numbers under wraps. That said, the US could’ve done a lot with our allies to coordinate responses. And at home, a competent administration could’ve ramped up production of testing equipment, PPE, field hospitals, and ventilators prior to loving April. That’d make the current situation livable at least. We’d be nearing the point where testing and contact tracing could start making a dent in new case numbers. It’d mean less overwhelmed hospitals and a lower death toll. But the whole world got hosed when this thing got out of China and started community spreading around the US and Europe. No administration could’ve stopped the pandemic at that point. Then we hosed our own rear end by not making the barest of preparations. A competent administration could’ve had us out of this by fall.
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Bored As gently caress posted:I really wonder what would be happening if we had a competent president https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
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facialimpediment posted:1) That new CDC model was bad/incomplete and CDC never should've included it in any kind of official slide deck (I believe this, as the CDC has been hollowed the gently caress out of anyone with a brain) i wouldn't trust nate silver to tell me what color the sky will be tomorrow, but i sure hope you're right 
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Doc Hawkins posted:i wouldn't trust nate silver to tell me what color the sky will be tomorrow, but i sure hope you're right I more linked that because it was the quick route to the part of the WaPo about the origins of that model. When the creator of the model at Johns-Hopkins is like "wtf, this model wasn't done, why is the CDC putting it in charts", it's a pretty solid assumption that the model shouldn't be listened to right now! Nate Silver was like "uh, this doesn't make sense on its face, who made this and what were the assumptions" and WaPo basically found that it was basically panicked CDC folks. Probably better to listen to that than the dumbfuck white house model that says it'll all be over mid-May when things are CURRENTLY accelerating and we've yet to even come down from our initial peak. shame on an IGA posted:what in the absolute gently caress is going on with that Y-axis Logarithmic model. It's how you model a hypercontagious, exponentially-growing disease like COVID. A regular chart is unreadable as it would just be a line pointing straight upwards and it wouldn't tell you anything.
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shame on an IGA posted:what in the absolute gently caress is going on with that Y-axis log scales. They’re good for obfuscation!
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Godholio posted:Are those the WH's projections? it's from the leaked and linked cdc report
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MODEL PREDICTS GREATER THAN 1 MILLION CASES PER DAY
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not caring here posted:Logarithms are for lies and no one will tell me different Now I get everyone's issue, that chart has weird Y-axisesesesesiiesiesies compared to the usual one: https://twitter.com/McPherSTL/status/1257331632106864648 I personally think the logarithmic scales are best for reflecting doubling time. You can really see how New York got skullfucked versus California and how this thing is stubbornly sticking around and not going away very quick.
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